Remote bypass oil filtration

[locoroco777]

Not really a fan of Amsoil, I don't use any of their products, Oil and for things like Formula one really have no bearing on Fleet service extended service duration. I am a fan of Cummins Diesel which makes Fleetguard.

Amsoil to give them credit is great oil they are not in Formula 1 but they are in everything from Nascar to every level of Drag racing, circle track, motorcycle, boat, drifting, endurance racing, snowmobile, monster truck, motorcycle drag racing, speedboat, Bonneville salt flat word record speed ect, ect Probably a pretty good indication it's good oil..

This is a U.S based company we are not to much into Formula 1, can't see them spending big dollars to be a sponsor for a race 95% of Americans don't care about, Nascar that's a different story.

Other than that, I find them overpriced for what you get, I am fond of Motul and Rotella T6, I'll be using the Rotella when I change my oil to install my system. my car does not rev to 10000rpms I don't need mobil1 or Amsoil. I need a oil with the right formulation and additional additives for extended oil life and proper wear protection. For me those are the best two oils for diesels.

Sir how bout the Mobil 1 turbo diesel truck? How do find it?

[crazy_boy]

I just want to open up your minds fellow tsikoteers.I cant stand those 40k-50k change oil intervals to small light duty diesel engines that used the so called dual filtration being claimed obviously by an advertisement being forwarded to us.Only big trucks/buses can achieve this as they have very low rpm and at the same time,more oil on the oil sump. I have opened a lot of diesel in the past and no oil filtration issue have caused an engine failure that i encountered.Mostly overheating is the culprit & of coarse the use of low quality oil

sir, are the mineral oil of the big 3 considered as low quality oil?

[Ry_Tower]

Huwaw! dumami bigla ang diskusyon dine! nawala lang ako ng isang linggo. badtrip nasira computer ko.

Actually, as for my part i'm not interested in the dual filtration thing. I'm only interested in procuring quality filters plus the oil monitoring gages like the oil pressure and oil temperature gages with the thing inserted in the oil filter base (i dunno what you call that saucer like thingy).



This is a very good thread indeed now that i know where to look for in metro manila area.

Sakto lang balik mo, kaka-online lang ata ng tsikot.

I just want to open up your minds fellow tsikoteers.I cant stand those 40k-50k change oil intervals to small light duty diesel engines that used the so called dual filtration being claimed obviously by an advertisement being forwarded to us.Only big trucks/buses can achieve this as they have very low rpm and at the same time,more oil on the oil sump. I have opened a lot of diesel in the past and no oil filtration issue have caused an engine failure that i encountered.Mostly overheating is the culprit & of coarse the use of low quality oil

Ako naman kasi sa na-experience ko, Vic lang gamit na oil filter pero religious na 5K km PMS na change oil and oil filter, tapos 10K km change fuel filter, tumatagal yung ride ng 200K kms na, malakas pa at matulin yung nga pick-ups dito (non-crdi). Tapos pangit pa dan dito at maalikabok. Walang "B" yan ha. Multigrade na shell rimula X 15w-40 or shell helix diesel HX5 nga lang gamit eh. (Shell lang puwede eh, ). Kaya interested din ako sa ibang filters na maganda.

Right now marami rin kaming trucks for delivery and routes kaya if there is something that would prevent costly engine overhaul other than what I already know, I would gladly listen to facts para ma-digest if ok nga.

[12vdc]

Hi Dvldoc im interested to the quality filters you have mentioned here. My question is, what is the appropriate BPV settings should i get?

My OEM Filter is made by Mann with PN# W 920/48, Nissan Part# 15208 BN30A and it says BPV is 1bar (14 PSI)..

Fleetguard L3400 is 9.43PSI, while Baldwin is 16 PSI.
What filter is best for my engine the lower or higher BPV setting??

[dagol]

sir, are the mineral oil of the big 3 considered as low quality oil?

Wala na sa market ang mga low quality oils.Mas masyerte na kayo ngayon dahil mataas na kalidad ng mga langis na ginagamit nyo kumpara noong dekada 80 at 90.Panay overhaul at dukot sa mga diesel engines noon.Every 2k kms nga lang ang change oil intervals noon pero bumibigay pa rin mga makina sa mas maiksing panahon.Masaya na ang owner ng diesel car noon kung umabot ng 200k kms bago ibaba makina.Ok na rin kahit mineral ang gamitin, pero kung di naman problema ang presyo ng synthetic,mas magandang ito ang gamitin nyo para mas mahaba pa ang buhay ng makina ng ride nyo.Kahit partly synthetic lang oki na.

[dagol]

Sakto lang balik mo, kaka-online lang ata ng tsikot.



Ako naman kasi sa na-experience ko, Vic lang gamit na oil filter pero religious na 5K km PMS na change oil and oil filter, tapos 10K km change fuel filter, tumatagal yung ride ng 200K kms na, malakas pa at matulin yung nga pick-ups dito (non-crdi). Tapos pangit pa dan dito at maalikabok. Walang "B" yan ha. Multigrade na shell rimula X 15w-40 or shell helix diesel HX5 nga lang gamit eh. (Shell lang puwede eh, ). Kaya interested din ako sa ibang filters na maganda.

Right now marami rin kaming trucks for delivery and routes kaya if there is something that would prevent costly engine overhaul other than what I already know, I would gladly listen to facts para ma-digest if ok nga.

Limitahan mo sa 2k RPM ang mga delivery trucks ninyo at iwasang maoverheat.Nasa mababang rpm lang ang peak torque ng trak na direct injection,naglalaro lang sa 1.5-2k rpm.Kahit lagi nilang isagad ang pedal,oks pa rin.Sa ibaba ng pedal ka maglagay ng pantukod.Wala bang shop dyan na may laser type tachometer?

[dvldoc]

I just want to open up your minds fellow tsikoteers.I cant stand those 40k-50k change oil intervals to small light duty diesel engines that used the so called dual filtration being claimed obviously by an advertisement being forwarded to us.Only big trucks/buses can achieve this as they have very low rpm and at the same time,more oil on the oil sump. I have opened a lot of diesel in the past and no oil filtration issue have caused an engine failure that i encountered.Mostly overheating is the culprit & of coarse the use of low quality oil

Hate to say it but your dead wrong, And I mean dead wrong, First could you explain your logic that this works on larger displacment diesel engines but not the ones there? Low rpms' have you seen a 5 star screaming down the highway at 100+ I know I have. There rpms are no different than what any other diesel is.

By the way bypass filtration has been around since the 1940's

Here we know it works because we use what's called Engine oil analysis, even on or POV's. Bypass filtration is proven period, That's why we have big rigs here with 2 or 3 million miles on them.

You statement that no engine has had a failure due to engine wear, I assume you mean no bears, lifters, cams, journals, piston rings, ect ever wear out then? You mention over heating, do you know carbon build up ie( soot) is the main reason for that, Not to mention cylinder wall being scoored up causing lost compression and power making the engine work harder.

Here's some example of simple EOA anyone can do here for 20USD.

Not hard to go this far with the right oil and filters





Here's just regular ones.




It's just a simple concept filter below 5 microns and you reduce wear there is no magic to it. Engine have wear period anything you can do to reduce the wear extends it's life and lowers maintenance cost. Never stated engine failure anywhere.

Good article from Fleetguard, If anyone can submit facts that contradict wear shortens engine life please post it up. Yes you can go hundreds of 1000's of kilometers on regular oil and filters, but some of use like to protect our engines further.

http://www.sbmar.com/Maintenance/PDF...Filtration.pdf

[Ry_Tower]

Limitahan mo sa 2k RPM ang mga delivery trucks ninyo at iwasang maoverheat.Nasa mababang rpm lang ang peak torque ng trak na direct injection,naglalaro lang sa 1.5-2k rpm.Kahit lagi nilang isagad ang pedal,oks pa rin.Sa ibaba ng pedal ka maglagay ng pantukod.Wala bang shop dyan na may laser type tachometer?

La niyan eh, di puwede tukod, daming paahon, kelangan din ng buwelo sometimes. hehe

OT: Siya nga pala, bakit red font na gamit mo?

[Ry_Tower]

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[dvldoc]

Here is the other big benifit it's cost this is also why it's so popular. For example on my Elgrand a VIC 226 cost me 968P at ACE hardware, and 8L of not even the best oil 1000P.

Doing oil changes every 5000KL 2000P + Labor so around 2300P

My bypass system inital cost was around 5000P for everything including the filters. Won't need to change my oil until at least 40000klm my vehicle burns extreamly clean do to the water injection, lpg, and Oil catch.

My bypass set up filters down to 2 microns effiecently that's VIC CANNOT filter down past 10 microns it's barely 39% effiecient at 20 microns on the second pass. That means it lets 61% of all contaminates circulate right back through your engine that are smaller than 20 microns. And at 10 microns it's letting 96% though because it's only 4% effiencent at 10 microns. Will you get a few 100000k out of that engine sure, will it have more wear than it would if you used a good filter absolutley.

At least the Bosch (made by purolator U.S) is 97.5 % efficient at 20 micron.

So 5000P investment saves me 14000P in oil and 6700P on filters and 1750 on labor. And tons of engine wear to boot.

So 5000P vs almost 22000P and thus one of the reasons Fleet vehicles run these systems.

Not to mention the enviromental savings for oil disposal, these means a lot less to be disposed of.

I plan to do a engine oil sample at the half way point and then at 40000k and mail them back to the states.

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/oilbypass/oi...inalreport.pdf

http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs...ACulpepper.pdf

http://www.kleenoil.ca/pdf/casestudy_CalArk.pdf

http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/PollutionPrev...fact-sheet.pdf

Let's go into the engine oil analysis part of it basically these are the chemicals they look at and what the values tell you about the health of your engine.

This is probably one of the best articles on what is tested in your oil and what these test show as far as wear goes.

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/oilbypass/oi...s_testplan.pdf