Remote bypass oil filtration

[sirkosero]

is there a bigger dimension (taller but with the same thread) purolator filter that can be used instead of the L14476? i plan to use this since this should have a larger surface area for filtration. this will be used for a vios. i used to use OEM toyota.

also anyone knows where to get real purolator filters for retail? I think i got a fake L14476 (bought at my suking auto supply. Incidentally, a toyota dealership gets their parts here as well). It doesnt have the country of origin and i cant see the crimping on the gasket. got it for 150 pesos only

[sirkosero]

by the way, i also checked the purolators at ace hardware. they dont have the crimping on the gasket and no country of origin. maybe its a fake

[sirkosero]

based on the info in this thread,hopefully, better than vic.

hopefully its old stock but they began to sell purolators about a year ago. the box indicates made in prc but not on d actual filter

[kutangbato]

if i remember it correctly, the box indicated made in australia.

so dvldoc, this is somehow not as good anymore and maybe this one which ace is selling is on the level of vic or worse?

[sirkosero]

ive decided to buy an original toyota oil filter for my ride. bought it from the casa. might not have the best filtration out there but should be better than fake purolator, vic, or bosch. i will keep an eye out for orig purolators though and but in bulk if i find some hehe

[BKR5]

Just did my oil change this afternoon using the fleetguard filter and mobil 1 fully synthetic. I've been doing extended drains(10K or 1 year) but was using VIC filters. The car next to me on the lifter was also having an oil change, the owner was starting the car after the oil change when suddenly there was oil gushing out from underneath, the mechanics and the supervisor were all shouting to switch off the car. They unscrewed the filter and I saw it was a bosch filter, maybe he forgot to tighten it or the replacement bosch filter they chose was the same in size but different in thread size(the car was American, a Chevy Spark), the mechanic was dumbfounded that it happened, he was measuring the old filter's diameter with the new one, just goes to show that cross referencing is still the best way to find your filter not just by the diameter of the filter.

[dvldoc]

Just did my oil change this afternoon using the fleetguard filter and mobil 1 fully synthetic. I've been doing extended drains(10K or 1 year) but was using VIC filters. The car next to me on the lifter was also having an oil change, the owner was starting the car after the oil change when suddenly there was oil gushing out from underneath, the mechanics and the supervisor were all shouting to switch off the car. They unscrewed the filter and I saw it was a bosch filter, maybe he forgot to tighten it or the replacement bosch filter they chose was the same in size but different in thread size(the car was American, a Chevy Spark), the mechanic was dumbfounded that it happened, he was measuring the old filter's diameter with the new one, just goes to show that cross referencing is still the best way to find your filter not just by the diameter of the filter.

Dumfounded sound more like they were just dumb, I would find a different shop if they are not smart enough to know you can't screw a 3/4 16" thread oil filter to a GM's M18 x 1.5 thread and think it will still work even though the filter is the same physical size. Yeah it will screw on but heck no it will not seal.

That's why I always bring my own stuff when doing anything, don't relay that all mechanics or properly trained or even know what they are doing. Something like that should never happen with common sense. I mean come really

* sirkosero

The Baldwin BT223 is the best option for filters for Toyotas, it's 98% efficient * 12 microns vs Toyota's OEM's 88% * 40 microns they are horrible filters. They are almost identical to VIC in filtering ability and their dirt holding capacity is also pretty weak.

[sirkosero]

Dumfounded sound more like they were just dumb, I would find a different shop if they are not smart enough to know you can't screw a 3/4 16" thread oil filter to a GM's M18 x 1.5 thread and think it will still work even though the filter is the same physical size. Yeah it will screw on but heck no it will not seal.

That's why I always bring my own stuff when doing anything, don't relay that all mechanics or properly trained or even know what they are doing. Something like that should never happen with common sense. I mean come really

* sirkosero

The Baldwin BT223 is the best option for filters for Toyotas, it's 98% efficient * 12 microns vs Toyota's OEM's 88% * 40 microns they are horrible filters. They are almost identical to VIC in filtering ability and their dirt holding capacity is also pretty weak.

dvldoc, thanks for the info. will keep that in mind on my next parts run

[sirkosero]

Dumfounded sound more like they were just dumb, I would find a different shop if they are not smart enough to know you can't screw a 3/4 16" thread oil filter to a GM's M18 x 1.5 thread and think it will still work even though the filter is the same physical size. Yeah it will screw on but heck no it will not seal.

That's why I always bring my own stuff when doing anything, don't relay that all mechanics or properly trained or even know what they are doing. Something like that should never happen with common sense. I mean come really

* sirkosero

The Baldwin BT223 is the best option for filters for Toyotas, it's 98% efficient * 12 microns vs Toyota's OEM's 88% * 40 microns they are horrible filters. They are almost identical to VIC in filtering ability and their dirt holding capacity is also pretty weak.

i got to pass by volmax this morning and got myself a baldwin bt223 for toyota. the casing is bigger than oem toyota and heavier too. hope it fits the vios engine. hehe it costs 215 pesos which is much cheaper than toyota oem. it has the country of origin, 6 large crimps and 7 holes.

i got the last available stock and next shipment will be on august. in case you want volmax's number its 2448275, 2457076, 2448031, 2448373

hi dvldoc, thanks for all the info!

[Ry_Tower]

i got to pass by volmax this morning and got myself a baldwin bt223 for toyota. the casing is bigger than oem toyota and heavier too. hope it fits the vios engine. hehe it costs 215 pesos which is much cheaper than toyota oem. it has the country of origin, 6 large crimps and 7 holes.

i got the last available stock and next shipment will be on august. in case you want volmax's number its 2448275, 2457076, 2448031, 2448373

hi dvldoc, thanks for all the info!

Seems like its not fake which is good for you. Nice!

[dvldoc]

The BT223 is a mixed media filter filters (called microlite) 98% efficient at 12 microns which is 3 times better than OEM it will also hold 3grams more dirt particles and last long. Tough little filter great for Toyotas. I run a Baldwin B14012on my Nissan Altima, oil is considerably cleaner looking. This filter and synthetic oil will give you 12000klm easy I run them 15000klm (10000 miles) on my wife's car. Oil still looks new.

The BT223 fits all 4cly and 6cly gas toyota's and all D4D engines.

[sirkosero]

looks like i finally got the real deal. hehe.

i noticed though that the filter itself does not have the plastic that covers the thread and oil inlets. its something that im used to see in a filter. does it really come without that? the person from the shop told me its really does not have a plastic covering. is this true?

Btw, dvldoc, i saved the link you posted on the filter cross reference guide. it has tons of useful info. thanks for posting.

ry_tower thank you too. hehe

[dvldoc]

Most Baldwins do not come in plastic, they are in there own box for the most part especially on the small filters. Only the very large filters come in full plastic wrap because they do not come in their own box. I probably have about 100 of those BT223 in my storage so you got the real deal.

[locoroco777]

^thanks for clarifying that doc....I was also kinda worried about the plastic not being present....

[sirkosero]

Most Baldwins do not come in plastic, they are in there own box for the most part especially on the small filters. Only the very large filters come in full plastic wrap because they do not come in their own box. I probably have about 100 of those BT223 in my storage so you got the real deal.

hey dvldoc, thanks for the info again. was wondering what is the difference between the the bt223 and b33 aside from the physical size.

b33 is the cross reference of oem.

i read somewhere that the bypass pressure is not the same. i think 8 for the bt223 and 14 for the b33. Im not sure of the actual numbers. i prefer the bigger physical size of the 223 but im concerned on the bypass pressure.

also are all microglass filter element, say of baldwin, are the same? im thinking if its microglass, the filter element must be the same and difference would be the thread, bypass valve and physical construction. am i correct?

Thanks in advance!

[dvldoc]

If it crosses to the B33 use the BT223 it's a better filter than the b33. 8psi vs 14psi bypass is not a huge difference. If your OEM crosses this than it's probably closest to the factory specs.
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Descriptions: Full-Flow Lube Spin-on Contains: Anti-Drainback Valve
8 PSID By-Pass Valve Fits: BMW, Chrysler, Dodge, GMC, Saab, Saturn, Suzuki, Toyota Automotive; Bobcat, Cub Cadet, Interceptor, John Deere Equipment Replaces: Chrysler 2647020; Kohler 520-5002; Lister 201-55370; Onan 122-0645; Toyota 15601-13051 Thread: 3/4-16 O.D.: 2 29/32 (73.8) Length: 3 1/2 (88.9) I. Gskt.: G449-B

Descriptions: Full-Flow Lube Spin-on Contains: Anti-Drainback Valve
14 PSID By-Pass Valve Fits: Daihatsu, GMC, Toyota Automotive, Light-Duty Trucks; Generac Generators; John Deere Equipment Replaces: GMC 25161880; John Deere AM107423; Toyota 90915-03001 Thread: 3/4-16 O.D.: 2 11/16 (68.3) Length: 3 (76.2) I. Gskt.: [1] Included UPC: 7 91440 00042 1

[sirkosero]

If it crosses to the B33 use the BT223 it's a better filter than the b33. 8psi vs 14psi bypass is not a huge difference. If your OEM crosses this than it's probably closest to the factory specs.
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Descriptions: Full-Flow Lube Spin-on Contains: Anti-Drainback Valve
8 PSID By-Pass Valve Fits: BMW, Chrysler, Dodge, GMC, Saab, Saturn, Suzuki, Toyota Automotive; Bobcat, Cub Cadet, Interceptor, John Deere Equipment Replaces: Chrysler 2647020; Kohler 520-5002; Lister 201-55370; Onan 122-0645; Toyota 15601-13051 Thread: 3/4-16 O.D.: 2 29/32 (73.8) Length: 3 1/2 (88.9) I. Gskt.: G449-B

Descriptions: Full-Flow Lube Spin-on Contains: Anti-Drainback Valve
14 PSID By-Pass Valve Fits: Daihatsu, GMC, Toyota Automotive, Light-Duty Trucks; Generac Generators; John Deere Equipment Replaces: GMC 25161880; John Deere AM107423; Toyota 90915-03001 Thread: 3/4-16 O.D.: 2 11/16 (68.3) Length: 3 (76.2) I. Gskt.: [1] Included UPC: 7 91440 00042 1

thanks! this thread is very helpful. makes me want to research more about oil filters

[lawprofile]

If it crosses to the B33 use the BT223 it's a better filter than the b33. 8psi vs 14psi bypass is not a huge difference. If your OEM crosses this than it's probably closest to the factory specs.
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Descriptions: Full-Flow Lube Spin-on Contains: Anti-Drainback Valve
8 PSID By-Pass Valve Fits: BMW, Chrysler, Dodge, GMC, Saab, Saturn, Suzuki, Toyota Automotive; Bobcat, Cub Cadet, Interceptor, John Deere Equipment Replaces: Chrysler 2647020; Kohler 520-5002; Lister 201-55370; Onan 122-0645; Toyota 15601-13051 Thread: 3/4-16 O.D.: 2 29/32 (73.8) Length: 3 1/2 (88.9) I. Gskt.: G449-B

Descriptions: Full-Flow Lube Spin-on Contains: Anti-Drainback Valve
14 PSID By-Pass Valve Fits: Daihatsu, GMC, Toyota Automotive, Light-Duty Trucks; Generac Generators; John Deere Equipment Replaces: GMC 25161880; John Deere AM107423; Toyota 90915-03001 Thread: 3/4-16 O.D.: 2 11/16 (68.3) Length: 3 (76.2) I. Gskt.: [1] Included UPC: 7 91440 00042 1

Doc, I asked somebody from the US to get me these two for my Innova D4D. I believe they have different dimensions and I'm planning to hoard that which fits perfectly on my ride. The B33 is a dollar more expensive than the BT223. I just don't understand how the latter is better considering it costs less. Btw, I tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full...

[sirkosero]

hey doc, i have a little problem. im changing oil for a 1.3 liter honda idsi. i think it has the same filter for a civic which has a vic c307. I tried to check the js site for honda 1.3 engine but didnt find a baldwin the engine. but i did try the cross for c307 and got the following for baldwin b166, b141, b7167 and b179. My question is, will they fit? Im going to volmax this weekend to get my baldwin oil filter for my bt223 for my toyotas( for 2 vios and an old corolla) and want to get quality oil filter for the civic and the city. thanks again!

[dvldoc]

hey doc, i have a little problem. im changing oil for a 1.3 liter honda idsi. i think it has the same filter for a civic which has a vic c307. I tried to check the js site for honda 1.3 engine but didnt find a baldwin the engine. but i did try the cross for c307 and got the following for baldwin b166, b141, b7167 and b179. My question is, will they fit? Im going to volmax this weekend to get my baldwin oil filter for my bt223 for my toyotas( for 2 vios and an old corolla) and want to get quality oil filter for the civic and the city. thanks again!

Actually none of those will fit very well, the Outer diameter will keep it from being mounted. You want the Baldwin B1402 for any 1984 and up 4cly Honda engine. You guys have the smaller displacement L12A (1.2L), and L13A (1.3L) which we do not get here.

The OEM number for those engines is 15400PLMA01 which directly crosses with the B1402 you can also use the shorter B227 as well.

This is the 1.5L engine but you can see you might have a issue with a larger diameter filter hitting to the upper right of the filter.



The B1402, B1400 and B227 also are the filters for almost all 1999 and UP Nissan 4cly engines and the older SR20 engines. You can do a cross on your particular vehicle to be sure but if when it's a 20mmx1.5mm Thread it will be these two filters for those vehicles.

I use the B1402 on our my wife's Nissan Altima SL here in the states it is the longest of the 3 and has the greatest filtering surface.