Remote bypass oil filtration

[RustyXIII]

You have the mentality na lahat ng kano ay mautak.Bakit ang number one car maker sa buong mundo ay toyota?Sirain ang mga gawang kano kaya naungusan sila ng mga hapon.Alam mo bang walang nagkaproblema sa accelerator at brake ng Lexus dito sa europe di gaya sa tate na may namatay pang pinay sa aksidente.Nakapagtataka yung issue na yun.

Wala akong pakialam kung puti, itim, or kahit na berde pa sya. Basag ka nang basag nung mga sinasabi nya, pero ala ka namang maipakitang technical proof na tama mga hirit mo. Kaya sabi kong basura mga reply mo.

Keyboard warrior ka pre. Pustahan tayo, pag kaharap mo yang hinihiritan mo, maamo ka pa sa tupa.

[12vdc]

I cant imagine how dagol would look like kapag nagkita sila ni dvldoc.. Ubos siguro ang polgas nito..

Ok na sana ang argument ni dagol minus the personal insults and racist attackts but wala eh, kulang din sa proof.. Simple lang naman ang topic, about good filteration and prolonging engine life. Everybody would benefit having good filter at a cheaper price.. Hindi din naniwala sa 80k oil change interval.. Cummins and delphi are running those engines even past 100k kms, meron pa nga continous/ no downtime oil change..

[indiej]

so sad that one has to defend his character. ayos sana na naging technical ang talakayan kaya lang naiwan na at naging troll-ish ang isang panig. rise above.

thanks dvldoc for the tech knowledge. i take it with a grain of salt otherwise those are damning evidence about OEM filters and such. are you gonna hand the implementation to the shops or do you have a shop in the philippines?

[dvldoc]

so sad that one has to defend his character. ayos sana na naging technical ang talakayan kaya lang naiwan na at naging troll-ish ang isang panig. rise above.

thanks dvldoc for the tech knowledge. i take it with a grain of salt otherwise those are damning evidence about OEM filters and such. are you gonna hand the implementation to the shops or do you have a shop in the philippines?

Well I am doing the filter thing more of a hobby and to give my brother in law a job as a parts runner, will be mainly dealing with shops that do oil changes but of course people can always give me a buzz if they want the hook up, But this is not until way next year when I retire from the navy and move there full time. And once I am sold out I will basically be done with it and move on to something else.

But take full advantage of the shops in Manila that carry these filters, any specific vehicle fit questions feel free to post up.

Anyone with a Fortuner a pic of your filter is much appreciated, just want to see if you can fit a larger one with no issue. Stock one is freaking tiny

Just make sure what you get is real, plenty of fake China clone Fleetguard and Baldwin filters out there, No country of origin on the filter or the ® symbol is a dead give away of a fake.

Bosch is also a good brand filter since it's made by Purolator.who also makes WIX.
Not sure if the Korean version is identicle but our has a semi synthetic media (basically it's treated cellulose)



Of course that might be the only Bosch sold there.

The US version. If you can get the Distance plus filters tha't the premium ones they are the exact same as the Purolator Pure ones and are some of the best on the market.


Malaysia version.


I would pick it over a VIC any day.

[edtf]

Back to regular programming
Anyways dvldoc this would be a bit OT
How is the reputation or feed back on top 1 oil? Planning to use this on my next oil change.

can you also give us any DIY tip on a oil catch can?

TIA

[dvldoc]

Back to regular programming
Anyways dvldoc this would be a bit OT
How is the reputation or feed back on top 1 oil? Planning to use this on my next oil change.

can you also give us any DIY tip on a oil catch can?

TIA

Rotella dino or T6 sythetic if you can get it there, To me is some of the best oil out there, it always comes back great on EOA for wear protection.

Shell is marketing their new CJ-4/SM oil as "Triple Protection," meaning it provides enhanced qualities for engine wear, soot control and engine cleanliness. Shell's Rotella website indicates that on-road testing confirms the new Triple Protection technology produces better anti-wear characteristics than their existing CI-4+ rated Rotella oil. This is achieved despite a lower zinc and phosphorus additive level as called for by the API CJ-4 specification. (The 15W-40 Rotella T with Triple Protection oil has approximately 1200 ppm of zinc and 1100 ppm phosphorus at the time of manufacture.

http://www-static.shell.com/static/c...rotella_t6.pdf

Rotella is ment for Fleet service vehicles therefor offers higher protection, I have a turbo diesel vehicle there, my not so little Nissan Elgrand and I love the thing and since they are rare I want to keep it running for years to come even when I get a second vehicle when I get back there.

As far as a oil catch can, (one of the most important mods you'll ever do on a diesel heck even on a gas vehicle) It's simple. You would be surprised how much oil gets reciculated back into your intake manifold, it fouls things like sensors as well.

Here's a few sites to give you a ideal of how to make one.
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/engin...iy-nozzle.html

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.p...-Oil-Catch-Can

This is a cheap on that also works well.
http://forums.overlander.com.au/view...c2ba129f05f5e9

I use a air compressor one myself, But if you want it to be super efficient add a piece of steel wool or foam, you will catch much more than with the little filter that comes with it. I removed min and stuck in a block of foam.

I have been making these for friends here out of inline water strainers, They actually seem the best. Just put some steel wool and foam and it works like a champ, plus cost about 15USD total. These to me are the best to use plus they look good under the hood. You could add a drain at the bottom but I just unscrew them and empty it. Just add your hose barb fittings and your ready to role. These have a 100 mesh filter already in them.

[dagol]

Rotella dino or T6 sythetic if you can get it there, To me is some of the best oil out there, it always comes back great on EOA for wear protection.

Shell is marketing their new CJ-4/SM oil as "Triple Protection," meaning it provides enhanced qualities for engine wear, soot control and engine cleanliness. Shell's Rotella website indicates that on-road testing confirms the new Triple Protection technology produces better anti-wear characteristics than their existing CI-4+ rated Rotella oil. This is achieved despite a lower zinc and phosphorus additive level as called for by the API CJ-4 specification. (The 15W-40 Rotella T with Triple Protection oil has approximately 1200 ppm of zinc and 1100 ppm phosphorus at the time of manufacture.

http://www-static.shell.com/static/c...rotella_t6.pdf

Rotella is ment for Fleet service vehicles therefor offers higher protection, I have a turbo diesel vehicle there, my not so little Nissan Elgrand and I love the thing and since they are rare I want to keep it running for years to come even when I get a second vehicle when I get back there.

As far as a oil catch can, (one of the most important mods you'll ever do on a diesel heck even on a gas vehicle) It's simple. You would be surprised how much oil gets reciculated back into your intake manifold, it fouls things like sensors as well.

Here's a few sites to give you a ideal of how to make one.
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/engin...iy-nozzle.html

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.p...-Oil-Catch-Can

This is a cheap on that also works well.
http://forums.overlander.com.au/view...c2ba129f05f5e9

I use a air compressor one myself, But if you want it to be super efficient add a piece of steel wool or foam, you will catch much more than with the little filter that comes with it. I removed min and stuck in a block of foam.

I have been making these for friends here out of inline water strainers, They actually seem the best. Just put some steel wool and foam and it works like a champ, plus cost about 15USD total. These to me are the best to use plus they look good under the hood. You could add a drain at the bottom but I just unscrew them and empty it. Just add your hose barb fittings and your ready to role. These have a 100 mesh filter already in them.

I want to apologize for the bad words ive said to you.I didnt know that you are a foreigner.All i thought is that you are a Filipino that migrated in US who pretended of not knowing tagalog.Then when i saw your picture with a gun,i got pissed off immediately cause i hate violence.I thought you are a half filipino half american.Im really sorry man.Thanks for being patient despite me being cruel.

[dagol]

Wala akong pakialam kung puti, itim, or kahit na berde pa sya. Basag ka nang basag nung mga sinasabi nya, pero ala ka namang maipakitang technical proof na tama mga hirit mo. Kaya sabi kong basura mga reply mo.At least my comparison ka na.Yung Honda TMX 155 na ginagamit na pamasada,meron bang magandang oil filter yun?Wala, pero tumatagal naman bago masira.Napakaliit pa ng displacement compara sa bigat ng kaha ng traysikel.Eto pa,yung hand tractor na ginagamit ng mga magsasaka kagaya ng mitsubishi,kubota etc.. ay wala ding magandang oil filter kahit diesel engine pa mga yun.Bibilang ka ng maraming taon bago masira ang mga yun.Sa mga Kiskisan ng bigas,4dr5 karaniwan ang ginagamit at Nippon oil filter element lang ginagamit nila pero di hamak na mas tumatagal sila kaysa sa 4bc2 na nasa truck o jeep.May mas magandang oil filter ang 4bc2 pero bakit mas maiksi ang buhay nito kahit mas maiksing oras pa ang tinatakbo kaysa sa kiskisan na halos walang pahinga sa buong maghapon.Ang dahilan,mababa lang ang working RPM na na ginagamit sa mga kiskisan ng bigas.Halatang sa sasakyan ka lang may alam.

Keyboard warrior ka pre. Pustahan tayo, pag kaharap mo yang hinihiritan mo, maamo ka pa sa tupa.

Ganyan ka siguro kaya yan ang lumalabas sa bibig mo.Di ako nakalabas ng bansa kung wala akong guts,tandaan mo yan.

[Quint]

Nice thread going here dvldoc. Thanks for sharing...

Anyway, just wanted to get more inputs from you, as you would know that the driving conditions here are typically warmer, and considered "heavy duty" especially if one drives in Manila's bumper-to-bumper traffic. So assuming that if most of the time, the vehicle is on idle or low speed, would you still advise having the by-pass or just changing to a bigger and better filter? I'm concerned about oil pressure. Would I need to install gauge then? How low is "acceptable low" when it comes to pressure?

I have a thousand questions in my mind, and am a firm believer in replenishing fluids faithfully so your thread is very helpful, indeed. Keep it up...

Please, don't mind the vermin roaming around...let's just "filter it out."

[dagol]

Nice thread going here dvldoc. Thanks for sharing...

Anyway, just wanted to get more inputs from you, as you would know that the driving conditions here are typically warmer, and considered "heavy duty" especially if one drives in Manila's bumper-to-bumper traffic. So assuming that if most of the time, the vehicle is on idle or low speed, would you still advise having the by-pass or just changing to a bigger and better filter? I'm concerned about oil pressure. Would I need to install gauge then? How low is "acceptable low" when it comes to pressure?

I have a thousand questions in my mind, and am a firm believer in replenishing fluids faithfully so your thread is very helpful, indeed. Keep it up...

Please, don't mind the vermin roaming around...let's just "filter it out."

Genetic talaga ang lahi nyong `makapili´.Magtanong ka na lang,hwag ng masyadong pumapel pa.Sasagotin ka naman tiyak nyan at masyadong nahuhumaling sa Forums.

[dvldoc]

Nice thread going here dvldoc. Thanks for sharing...

Anyway, just wanted to get more inputs from you, as you would know that the driving conditions here are typically warmer, and considered "heavy duty" especially if one drives in Manila's bumper-to-bumper traffic. So assuming that if most of the time, the vehicle is on idle or low speed, would you still advise having the by-pass or just changing to a bigger and better filter? I'm concerned about oil pressure. Would I need to install gauge then? How low is "acceptable low" when it comes to pressure?

I have a thousand questions in my mind, and am a firm believer in replenishing fluids faithfully so your thread is very helpful, indeed. Keep it up...

Please, don't mind the vermin roaming around...let's just "filter it out."

Stop and go traffic is basically the hardest on your engine, Bypass is not for everyone, a good quality filter and good oil with the proper additives like Shells oils or Mobil1 are good enough for a long healthy engine life. The basic combo is good oil and good filtration. Do the oil catch can if possible, I didnt' say this but block the EGR With sythetic and a quality filter it's easy to do 10000 to 15000klm between oil changes.

The bypass filter set up does not effect your oil pressure you still have a full flow filters then the bypass filter only filters around 10% of the oil per pass. So after about 10 minutes it will have filtered all the oil in your engine. I keep a oil gauge just for a safety measure like a hose comes loose or something. Just did a kit on my co-workers F350 6L turbo diesel, oil pressure is like 2psi lower probably because the filters flow better.



(I highly suggest people report irresponsible posters on the forum)

[indiej]

OT: do that And ignore all the troll's posts whatever the content. Do not reply to its posts (feeding). pls read about trolling, flame baiting.

i'll bite, why do you often call it sYThetic? my question before is about the bypass filter. are you adding that to your product lineup in Devil's Own?

i'm looking around at pvc pipe traps for an oil catch can but IDK if that can handle the temps.

[dvldoc]

OT: do that And ignore all the troll's posts whatever the content. Do not reply to its posts (feeding). pls read about trolling, flame baiting.

i'll bite, why do you often call it sYThetic? my question before is about the bypass filter. are you adding that to your product lineup in Devil's Own?

i'm looking around at pvc pipe traps for an oil catch can but IDK if that can handle the temps.

Yeah I am done with that guy. He's just embarassing himself.

Now are you asking why i call oil or the oil filters synthetic? (I did type -o it a few times, fat fingers I guess lol) The filters you use for a bypass set up have to be a synthetic fiber or super high efficiency cellulose synthetic mix of filter media. This is the only way to effectively remove the particles that are less than 20 microns in size.

PVC should have no issue holding up to engine heat as long as it’s not the thin cheap stuff. In my Grand Prix GTP I use a DIY PCV fenderwell intake system, never had a problem and it runs over the exhaust manifold.

If you mount your catch can along the side of the car like on the fenderwell you should have no issues. Even the ones with the clear plastic bowls on air compressor oil separator hold up fine under the hood.

And no we will never get into filters to many people speciallize in it already. I'm sure I will bring a few set-ups with me next year for anyone who wants to run one.

Try foam, steel wool or a steel scrub pad for your catch can's media they work the best at trapping the oil particles from the incoming air.

[dvldoc]

A good add on to this thread if people can post the aftermarket filters they see on the shelf there so we can tell you which are the good and the not so good.

So far we know this.

Fleetguard - Fleet service heavy duty filter

Baldwin- Fleet service heavy duty filter

Bosch- good over the counter filter

Mann- decent filter not the best specs for efficiency but well built

Fram- Orange can of death, one of the worst on the market.

OEM-Toyota black can not made by Mann, Low quality filter

OEM-Honda low quality filter paper end caps, cheaply made

OEM-Madaz decent filter good for 5000k oil changes

OEM-Nissan white can, total garbage, foam filter media thin cardboard

Nissan- made by Mann, decent over the counter filter 5000k use.

Mobil1-good over the counter filter

K&N - good over the counter filter

WIX- above average oil filter heavy duty construction.

OEM-Ford (Motorcraft filter) Good over the counter filter

ACDelco-None Ultraguard and Duraguard are of very low quality

OEM-Hyundai-good OEM filter

VIC- Very cheaply made, restrictive bypass valve, poor filter media

Union-Decent over the counter filter, basic paper media 5000k Change out

JHF- Decent Koren made over the counter filter 5000k use

Fil- lable says (for) Toyota, red and white box, Yellow lettering on filer, undersized filter media, bad bypass valve cause filter to recirculate unfilterd oil.

Fil-Fram Koren version. same issues. Steel on steel relief valve fails to seal, leaves dirty oil circulating.

Toyota (Denso) Japan, has on average fewer pleats for fitering vs other filters. Example MANN has 60 pleats vs Densos 29, vs Frams 59 in the same size filter. Very short life filter.

Fellow Tskoit member await your input