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    Quote Originally Posted by miko101130 View Post
    ang bilis kasi na over shadow ang CI-4 plus nang CJ-4....

    minadali kasi yung Oil category na toh for the fast changing emission regulations which the engine manufacturers can't cope with.... it was designed in parallel during the development of many engines, so nung natapos design nung mga engines, the oil category is now late for emission standards...

    CI-4 plus is definitely created and intended to extend oil change and improve soot handling on engines requiring that specification.
    Got a response from Royal Purple Technical Manager for international markets. Will post it tomorrow, am on mobile now. Basically, what he is saying was that CJ-4 oils are okay for 500ppm diesel fuels (Euro II, which the Big 3 has) as the TBN is still within 20x of the sulfur content. That makes using Euro IV fuels (Unioil and Eastern) much much better. But since CI-4+ oils has a bit more of the anti-wear properties, it is still preferred to use this for additional engine protection. But for protecting both our engines and the environment, CJ-4 should be the choice...cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuazon7 View Post
    Got a response from Royal Purple Technical Manager for international markets. Will post it tomorrow, am on mobile now. Basically, what he is saying was that CJ-4 oils are okay for 500ppm diesel fuels (Euro II, which the Big 3 has) as the TBN is still within 20x of the sulfur content. That makes using Euro IV fuels (Unioil and Eastern) much much better. But since CI-4+ oils has a bit more of the anti-wear properties, it is still preferred to use this for additional engine protection. But for protecting both our engines and the environment, CJ-4 should be the choice...cheers

    Sir, ung Euro II hindi ba greater than 500ppm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Sir, ung Euro II hindi ba greater than 500ppm?
    sir Retz, yes. those are the limits/max. Seaoil before was even better at 10ppm (Euro V) but reverted to Euro III when crude started to become pricey again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuazon7 View Post
    Got a response from Royal Purple Technical Manager for international markets. Will post it tomorrow, am on mobile now. Basically, what he is saying was that CJ-4 oils are okay for 500ppm diesel fuels (Euro II, which the Big 3 has) as the TBN is still within 20x of the sulfur content. That makes using Euro IV fuels (Unioil and Eastern) much much better. But since CI-4+ oils has a bit more of the anti-wear properties, it is still preferred to use this for additional engine protection. But for protecting both our engines and the environment, CJ-4 should be the choice...cheers
    Nice one sir tuazon7. We will wait for the link.
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    actually, yung post ni miko regarding sa oil selection is a quick guide. 1-2 pages back ata.


    1. sulfur content in diesel oil (500 ppm ang boundary usually)

    2. emissions-compliant ba yung vehicle (DPF, SCR, EGR, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuazon7 View Post
    Got a response from Royal Purple Technical Manager for international markets. Will post it tomorrow, am on mobile now. Basically, what he is saying was that CJ-4 oils are okay for 500ppm diesel fuels (Euro II, which the Big 3 has) as the TBN is still within 20x of the sulfur content. That makes using Euro IV fuels (Unioil and Eastern) much much better. But since CI-4+ oils has a bit more of the anti-wear properties, it is still preferred to use this for additional engine protection. But for protecting both our engines and the environment, CJ-4 should be the choice...cheers
    Basta ako hands Down ako sa Royal purple lubricants.... they make one of the best you can possibly use...
    RP max gear gamit ko pati RP ATF fluid.... wala ako masabi sa performance... mahal nga siya pero superb performance,, yung ATF nila 1 year and 6 months na since nilagay sa automatic transmission( around 25k na tinakbo ) hangang ngayon walang change in color, smell, texture at napaka smooth shifting pa.... only downside is mahal... hahahaha...

    sa mga oil analysis sa BITOG forums abroad, 3 lang naman naglalaban in terms of oil analysis performance....
    Redline lubricants/ royal purple/ Mobil 1 synthetic line up...

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    ^

    Noted sa inputs mo sir ry_tower. Saan ba magandang website that has a list or a chart of all API ratings and then may explanation na rin doon about the API standard. Paki post lang link. Thanks.

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    ^ GMG!!!
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    sir ry... mura pala bd28 natin sa pilipinas.. sana hindi tumaas prices dahil sa demand ngayon... hehe
    sa ebay... its $28+ tapos 7+ shipping.. tapos papunta pa ng pilipinas.. hehe

    calledup again kanina.. wala pa stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC View Post
    sir ry... mura pala bd28 natin sa pilipinas.. sana hindi tumaas prices dahil sa demand ngayon... hehe
    sa ebay... its $28+ tapos 7+ shipping.. tapos papunta pa ng pilipinas.. hehe

    calledup again kanina.. wala pa stock
    June pa daw, tumawag din si vinj and wala pa nga daw.

    Huwag kayo mag-hoard dyan sa MM ha.
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    hahaha... malapit lang ako sa volmax... binondo din ako... pag dating ng delivery truck ng baldwin.. hindi pa nababa sa truck.. sugurin ko na yan.. hehe just kiddin..

    nakulitan na siguro yung sa tindahan... hehe araw araw.. may tumatawag.. boss may bd28 naba tayo? hehehe

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    ^^or sariling compilation mo yung data na yan.....makagawa nga rin ako ng local file ko. sa tagal kong nagresearch dito eh diko naisip yan. puros download lang ng pdf etc. hehehe

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    pa share naman

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    ^^or sariling compilation mo yung data na yan.....makagawa nga rin ako ng local file ko. sa tagal kong nagresearch dito eh diko naisip yan. puros download lang ng pdf etc. hehehe
    I got it from their PDS sa net. Prices indicated are those I got from various suppliers here.

    Mas mataas nga TBN ng CF rated Gulf vs CI-rated but I guess this is not a concern kasi fleet service siya. Meaning hindi na pang-everyday cars so no need to apply for an API certification since its expensive. Tama na yung kaya nilang ipaliwanag sa mga fleet accounts nila na maganda talaga oil na ito. I think its Z & P will be really high since Cf rated oils at that time must have at least 1500ppm zinc. CF rated oil kasabayan niyan kasi is SG/SJ oils na pinakamatataas din additive packages.
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    currently using mobil tdt, before royal purple on our diesel truck. I feel the idling is better (less noise) and smoother with rp. mahal lang kasi.

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    SK company is the 3rd largest company in Korea, next to Samsung and Hyundai. They have teleco company too, and soon into a food business.



    now im confident in buying and using Zic oils hehe

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    Well as I posted before they are also the largest supplier of group III oils in the world. ConocoPhillips uses there group III oils exclusively.
    ChevronTexaco, Motiva and Petro-Canada also produce Group III in North America, primarily for internal consumption. ExxonMobil imports Group III that it produces elsewhere.
    Last edited by dvldoc; May 11th, 2012 at 02:27 AM.

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    Some oil change interval info. By automotive brands and a nice oil change calculator.

    Oil Change Intervals

    conversion for engine liters to cubic inches. Liters to Cubic Inches converter

    Stop Changing Your Oil - Edmunds.com

    How Often Should I Change My Oil? - Consumer Guide Automotive

    http://cartersauto.com/files/Oil_Drain_Interval.pdf

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    ++++++++++
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; May 12th, 2012 at 12:02 PM.
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