Remote bypass oil filtration

[12vdc]

Just to add, the setup above is the same with this. Return line going to sump is the same as the intake of the spin-on adapter.



[SIZE=2]And just to add more readings to clarify things (from cummins pdf)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Diesel Engines generally use one of two types of lube filtration systems:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]��A Full Flowsystem[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]��A Bypassor Part Flowsystem[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]��A Full Flow system works the way it sounds. The entire flow of the fluid (oil, fuel, etc.) passes through the filter on its way to the engine[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]��Full Flow systems are common in lube, fuel, and air systems[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]��In lube systems, the full flow filter is by necessity an open filter[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]��The full flow filter cannot restrict oil flow[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]��Used to control larger particles, the full flow filter cleans all of the oil going to the engine[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]��A bypass or part flow system has a different flow path than a full flow[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]��In a bypass system, a small amount of flow, usually controlled by an orifice, is taken from the main flow stream[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]��That oil is passed through a filter and then returns to the sump[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]��Due to the lower flow of a bypass system, a bypass filter can remove smaller particles[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]��Bypass systems are common in cooling systems or in conjunction with a full flow filter in lube systems[/SIZE]

[miked]

sir, so you mean 4d56, 4m40, and td42's are better since they have the dual filter set up?

single filter lang naman ang mga ito pero ang sinasabi is pwede imodify to a dual set-up....

Actually, about 1 liter or a little bit greater than 1 liter ang nagcicirculate sa engine (ang usual order of lubrication is: oil pan-oil pump-crankshaft/piston-camshaft/rocker arms-oil pan). Oil cooler comes into play when the operating temp is achieved.

Eh bakit 4-6 liters ang usually kinakarga? the primary reason is cooling of the oil (aside from the dedicated oil cooler). The greater the oil, the greater time for the oil to dissipate the heat absorbed from metals grinding other metals.

Therefore, if you install dual filters dadami din ang kelangan mo na oil and so on aside from the fact na mas marami ang "screen" na magfifilter ng dumi sa oil..

[Ry_Tower]

All engines are designed to have a bypass circuit if the filter gets clogged or the oil pump produces abnormally high pressures. that is, by-pass the filter and go directly to the lubrication points or some oil will back to the oil pan galley.hth

single filter lang naman ang mga ito pero ang sinasabi is pwede imodify to a dual set-up....

Actually, about 1 liter or a little bit greater than 1 liter ang nagcicirculate sa engine (ang usual order of lubrication is: oil pan-oil pump-crankshaft/piston-camshaft/rocker arms-oil pan). Oil cooler comes into play when the operating temp is achieved.

Eh bakit 4-6 liters ang usually kinakarga? the primary reason is cooling of the oil (aside from the dedicated oil cooler). The greater the oil, the greater time for the oil to dissipate the heat absorbed from metals grinding other metals.

Therefore, if you install dual filters dadami din ang kelangan mo na oil and so on aside from the fact na mas marami ang "screen" na magfifilter ng dumi sa oil..

ah yes, regarding this one pala yun. hehe

[dvldoc]

Diesel Engines generally use one of two types of lube filtration systems:
A Full Flow system
A Bypass or Part Flow system

A Full Flow system works the way it sounds. The entire flow of the fluid (oil, fuel, etc.) passes through the filter on its way to the engine.

In lube systems, the full flow filter is by necessity an open filter.
The full flow filter cannot restrict oil flow used to control larger particles, the full flow filter cleans all of the oil going to the engine.

A bypass or part flow system has a different flow path than a full flow
In a bypass system, a small amount of flow, usually controlled by an orifice, is taken from the main flow stream that oil is passed through a filter and then returns to the sump.

Due to the lower flow of a bypass system, a bypass filter can remove smaller particles.


Basic filter parts.

Filter Bypass Valve allows unfiltered oil to flow around (bypass) the filter. Not to be confused with a bypass filter Every lube system has a bypass valve.

May be part of the filter or part of the engine Antidrainback Valve Used for inverted applications maintains a head of oil to prevent dry starts. Used in conjunction with a standpipe.

Filter break down.

[dagol]

Useless ang paggamit ng modified filter na yan dahil hindi marami ang amount ng motor oil na nasa loob ng makina ng mga light duty diesel engines ng mga sasakyan natin.Hindi pwedeng patagalin ng mahabang panahon ang change oil di gaya sa makina ng mga malalaking trucks/buses.Ang ratio ng dami ng langis sa displacement ng makina will decide the size of an oil filter & change oil interval depending on what type of oil we use.

[sirkosero]

dami purolator sa market. may fake na ba?

saan kaya makakabili original purolator filter for a vios? magkano kaya ito?

[sirkosero]

thanks! curiously, pano malalaman ang orig na purolator sa fake? fleetguard ang madalas ko nababasa eh

[dvldoc]

Unfortunately there are a lot of fake purolators filters there, they are actually china clones which is a bad thing. Don't expect them to filter any better than a vic and have all the same potential issues of any fake filter.

Post a pic of the box and the filter if you can. One thing to look for is the country of origin on the filter. It should say made in XXXX. They make it in several other countries.

[sirkosero]

dvldoc, thanks for the tip. i will keep that in mind. will try to get a picture too

[dvldoc]

By the way Purolator makes Bosch filters , Purolator Filters NA LLC is a joint venture company of the Bosch Group and Mann+Hummel Group.

What out for this china fake, they even spell it different. They make fuel and oil filters.


Real
Purolator filter have 8 medium-sized holes for the oil inlet and nothing but a black (or orange for the Pure One) diaphragm to be seen through them. There are 6 large crimps holding the gasket in place. Through the center outlet hole, you can see the spring for the bypass valve.

It's a shame you have to but always check before you buy.

Real.

[edtf]

I hope it would always be this easy to spot a fake :D

Another matter I bought a baldwin that was color black and it was made in Japan. I checked the baldwin site and indeed that particular filter is color black. I checked the bottom of the filter and it did have like a dotmatrix print that it was baldwin and place of manufacture plus a code. Too bad I had it installed before I could take a picture of it.

[dvldoc]

Baldwins are easy they hate counterfeit guys.

http://www.baldwinfilter.com/literat...res/form30.pdf

[edtf]

Baldwins are easy they hate counterfeit guys.

http://www.baldwinfilter.com/literat...res/form30.pdf

Thanks for this dvldoc. I will be buying from volmax by next month some filters and would post the filter here. I was talking to the guy from the shop and he said they have a couple of container vans that came in and that is not yet their complete order. Their restock and new stock would be ready by mid July

[Ry_Tower]

By the way Purolator makes Bosch filters , Purolator Filters NA LLC is a joint venture company of the Bosch Group and Mann+Hummel Group.

What out for this china fake, they even spell it different. They make fuel and oil filters.


Real
Purolator filter have 8 medium-sized holes for the oil inlet and nothing but a black (or orange for the Pure One) diaphragm to be seen through them. There are 6 large crimps holding the gasket in place. Through the center outlet hole, you can see the spring for the bypass valve.

It's a shame you have to but always check before you buy.

Real.

I'll keep this in mind. thanks again.

[HardCharger]

Hi Doc,

My rig is a 98 4x4 HiLux with a 3L, 2.8 liter diesel engine. I usually run factory filters on him but ran Vic when necessary. I found a service place that uses Purolator from Australia so I'm reckoning that this is good, I'll compare prices with the factory filter and K&N to see which is the better buy. I change out oil and filter every 5,000 KMs (funny thing that the manual says you can change the factory filter every 10,000KMs) I usually use Rimula X Black 15w-40 though when I move to the aforementioned place, I'll most likely be using their stock which should be Mobil Delvac 15W-40.

I ditched my K&N air filters and I can see that my decision was correct, they really don't filter properly and that they're a pain in the *$$ to clean and re-oil. Berrima doesn't recommend them either. Know of any air filters better than factory? I can't use a cone-type filter as I've got a snorkel on and the filter box has to stay on for that to work.

Speaking of Berrima, they are offering me a certain type of fuel filter with the glass bottom and you can change out the element in the middle every 5,000 KMs (their recommendation) as the local fuel quality sucks. Do you know this filter? Any good? Thinking of buying it when I get my turbo installed together with my dyno work.

I'll try the cross reference sites you posted and hopefully I can check around for my alternative filter sources.

Stay safe and see you soon. Remember, when in doubt, empty the magazine!

[dvldoc]

They use the Delphi 2 micron fuel / water separator it's meant to be a secondary filter. It will keep your fuel seriously clean. But you can also just go with a baldwin direct replacement which are 10 microns but still around 5% efficient at 5 microns and will give you less restriction in your fuel system.

Baldwin makes some of the best filters since most are microlite filter media, about 80% of there oil filters are and pretty much all automotive direct replacements are that's a 98% Efficient * 12 microns compared to a VIC which is a only 87% efficient at 40 microns (pretty much worthless for protecting your engine for major wear) Almost no protection

The majority of filters are only 95% to 98% efficient * 40 microns since that is the industry standard for OEM. They don't really strive to be any better. Purolator is only 97% * 40 microns.

Most paper air filters are the same, Fram actually makes good air filters their oil filters are worthless junk but the air filters are good. OEM is also perfectly fine.

Most Fleetguards are 96% efficient at 20 microns on their cellulose media, there microglass and stratapore are 5 microns. Wix are also all around 20 microns filters wich do a good job down to 5 microns.

But Baldwin are almost all microlite (cellulose mixed with microglass) with 12 microns rating and filter down to 5 pretty dang well.

Can't go wrong with Fleetguard or Baldwin. They also hold about 4 times more particles before they can get clogged and go into the bypass mode.

[crazy_boy]

just called the distributor of wix. too bad they dont have the filter for 4m40 engine.

[miko101130]

try the retailer store of donalson in 5th avenue.. PALEENO AP

[MrQ5]

since TS allowed discussion also of engine oils products, since he always recommended CJ-4 API rating, i have a question i read some articles over net that it is best to use CI-4 plus or lower ratings than the CJ-4 rated oil for 2007 and lower car model, can you have some inputs on this? coz i'm confuse since zinc(Zn) and phosphorus (P) are important important anti-wear and tear protection balanced with detergent additives but they reduce it on CJ-4 because of environmental restrictions and some engine oils compensate of lower Zn & P with higher moly but some says it abrasive and deposit forming...

[miko101130]

moly is not designed to become an abrasive product, actually it prevents abrasion... i assume you will be using your vehicle at least once a month(some particles of moly may settle if vehicle not used in long periods)... the moly is suspended on the oil, it not like water and oil... try to read the links i've given to be enlightened.. hehehe..

mos2 technical reviews - Bob Is The Oil Guy

LubroMoly MoS2 unbiased butt-dyno results... - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Liqui Moly (or Lubro Moly) Ceratec and info about - Bob Is The Oil Guy

moly additive? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Rubbing surfaces with Moly have a much longer life. Because Moly will withstand pressures to 500,000 lbs per square inch and temperatures to 750 degrees F, it has become popular for use in greases for ball joints, wheel bearings, U-joints and many other high temperature and high pressure points on trucks, automobiles, tractors and aircraft.

Load bearing ability 250,000 psi
Density 5060 Kg.m
Melting Point 1185* C decomposes
Lubrication Temperature Range Ambient: from -185* C to 350* C
Magnetism Non-Magnetic
Coatable Substrates Iron, Steel, Aluminum, Copper, other Metals, Plastics and Man made Solids
Compatibility