2007 Kia Carens [ARCHIVE]

[joshua_ching]

Wow, congrats sir! Can you post some pics of your new acquisition here for all of us to admire?

Thanks...kaso di ko pa nakukuha dahil hinihintay ko pa ang check na galing pa sa Virginia. Kasi mahal masyado ang interest dito sa Pinas kaya doon ako sa Navy FCU kumuha ng financing. Okay na naman kaya lang tagal maghintay.

Pagkakuha ko kukunan ko kaagad ng pics para makita ng lahat... kakahiya naman kasi kung doon pa ako sa Kia Marikina kukuha ng pics ng di pa nade-deliver ...LOL..

[joshua_ching]

I am disappointed with my Carens FC. The Sales Agent claimed it could go 12km/L city driving.
I am only getting an average of 8.5km/L.
my 2003 Altis G a/t is even more fuel efficient at 9.5km/L.

My 1995 lancer and my 1999 starex had economy and power mode.
I usually set them at economy mode for city driving and seldom set them to power mode(only at expressways and going up to Baguio or Tagaytay).

I wish Carens has the same feature.
I think it is set to POWER Mode all the time.

Maraming factors ang nag-ko-control sa FC ng isang sasakyan. See if you can review and change the following:
1. Driving habbits - refrain from racing and jack rabbit stops. Banayad lang ang arangkada at wag sobra-sobra ang tapak sa gas.
2. Tire inflation - look at the tire specs and set your tire pressures at just a tad below the mfgs. max tire pressure recommendation. Mas malambot ang gulong, mas mahirap gumulong at magastos sa gas/diesel.
3. Replace your air filter when dirty. Ang dumi ng hangin sa Metro-Manila kaya ang air filter e saglit lang madumi na at kailangan ng palitan.
4. Change your oil regularly, lalo na kung diesel engine. Pag laging Metro-Manila ang drive, palitan ng di lalagpas sa 3K-5k KM.

Ako dati harurot akong magpatakbo, pero nang minsan na mag-drive ako sa NLEX sinubukan kong mag-drive ng mabagal (80-90kph) at halos nag-improve ang FC ko nang 30% kumpara sa 100-120kph.. bukod doon ay di pa ako pagod na pagod sa pagda-drive dahil nga para lang akong namamasyal...

[joshua_ching]

gud am guys ask ko lang kung worth it pa na bumuli ng carens im palnning to buy this week kahit 1.040m na ang price nya parang nag dadalawang isip kasi ako. tapos trade in ko yung carnival ls ko 2000mdl kinukuha nila ng 200k.

Yan lang ang saklap ng KIA brand. Katulad ng Nissan, kapag luma na mababa ang resale value. Alam ko ito bago pa ako bumili ng Carens, pero sabi ko sa sarili ko e i-keep ko naman ito ng no less than 10 years kaya okay lang. Maintain ko na lang ang performance at ang mga ilalagay ko pang mga accessories para laging exciting ang dating nito.

Di ako magtataka kung after three years ay less than 50% na lang ang value ng ating mga Carens, pero sad to say ganito talaga ang market ng Kia. Sana mag-improve pa sa mga susunod na taon. Para kasi itong SangYong...mahusay na brand at ito ang pinaka-BMW/Mercedes ng Korea, pero dehins puwede sa Pinas kaya mababa ang resale value ng mga ito.

Sa patibayan, okay naman ang Kia...kung di ba e marami pa ring mga vintage classic na KIA PRIDE na nagkalat sa kalye... more than 20 years old na ang mga yon!!!...

[mqavila]

For the benefit of newcomers to this thread who is considering buying the Carens, can we ask for the help of our fellow tsikoteers in posting here the various offers that the different Kia dealers are offering right now, be it in the form of cash discounts, freebies, low installment rates, good trade-in deals, etc?

Given the recent price increase of the Carens, these offers may make or break a deal... Paging bro ace8tan and others! :D

[joshua_ching]

For the benefit of newcomers to this thread who is considering buying the Carens, can we ask for the help of our fellow tsikoteers in posting here the various offers that the different Kia dealers are offering right now, be it in the form of cash discounts, freebies, low installment rates, good trade-in deals, etc?

Given the recent price increase of the Carens, these offers may make or break a deal... Paging bro ace8tan and others! :D

Sa akin sa Kia Marikina, wala!! as in wala!!! Pambili lang ng butong-pakwan ang kasama. Yun bang usual na floor mat, tapos mumurahing seat cover, 3 years LTO registration, saka 1 year na comprehensive insurance. Tapos choice ng last digit ng plaka sa registration. Yun nga lang ay mataas ang binigay na trade-in value sa luma kong toyota, kaya walang discount!!!...dahil pag mataas ang trade-in, babawi sila sa discounts dahil commission na ng sales agent ang mababawasan...Ang price ng Carens CDRI EX, AT ay P1.15M, as of July 7, 2008 ang price na is P1.21M

[joshua_ching]

For the benefit of newcomers to this thread who is considering buying the Carens, can we ask for the help of our fellow tsikoteers in posting here the various offers that the different Kia dealers are offering right now, be it in the form of cash discounts, freebies, low installment rates, good trade-in deals, etc?

Given the recent price increase of the Carens, these offers may make or break a deal... Paging bro ace8tan and others! :D

Sa akin sa Kia Marikina, wala!! as in wala!!! Pambili lang ng butong-pakwan ang kasama. Yun bang usual na floor mat, tapos mumurahing seat cover, 3 years LTO registration, saka 1 year na comprehensive insurance. Tapos choice ng last digit ng plaka sa registration. Yun nga lang ay mataas ang binigay na trade-in value sa luma kong toyota, kaya walang discount!!!...dahil pag mataas ang trade-in, babawi sila sa discounts dahil commission na ng sales agent ang mababawasan...Ang price ng Carens CDRI EX, AT ay P1.15M, as of July 7, 2008 ang price na is P1.21M

[joshua_ching]

Mga fellow Carens owner/prospective owners, narinig nyo na ba ito? Na tataas ng husto ang presyo ng diesel, at mas mataas pa sa gasolina na katulad sa ibang bansa? Kung totoo ito, tapos na ang masasayang araw natin!! Rumor lang ito at maaring hanggang dito na lang ito, sana!!!

Ang rumor ay itataas ang Diesel price para sa mga "private owners", para ma-subsidize ang mga "PUJs", "PUBs", at mga Taxi at FX. Kaya kukuha ng P2 - P3 ang gobyerno sa atin at ibibigay sa mga jeepney, bus, taxi, FX drivers sa pamamagitan ng subsidy. Anyway, kung meron man tayong miyembro na may alam tungkol dito, paki-confirm naman kung totoo o galing lang sa "rumor-central".

[joshua_ching]

My carens registered 8500km more or less. When I start my engine in the morning, I heard a tick tick sound coming from the engine. It lasted for about 10-15 seconds. Any one here have the same experience. thanks

This is normal with any engine, but more pronounced on some engines. What's happening is your oil is still at the bottom and would take between 5-10 seconds to circulate up to the valves. The result is a ticking noise, which will disappear once oil is fully circulated. If the ticking doesn't disappear within a few seconds, but continues to tick then your valves need to be adjusted to the proper specs. Usually this doesn't happen before 30,000KM, but some do!!!

[tidus1203]

Its not a rumor, it is a fact. Diesel is subsidized in this country that's why its low but it does not reflect the true price of diesel in the world market. Notice last week diesel was raised by P2/L while unleaded rise P1/L. I have been saying this for some time now thats why I am not a believer of diesel as a long term money saver given the price trends and that diesel engines has such a huge price premium over gas engines, and no even if the riots erupt the government can do nothing cause its the world market that dictates the price of diesel. So if you can't pay up for it then you don't get it. Diesel is the fuel of the mass transport, unfortunately as mentioned wala rin silang magagawa since we don't control the prices of diesel. Its either they resort to alternative fuels (like LPG) or take the blow of the prices on their chin. And no government price controls will never work and has never worked. Remember no one sells at a loss, if oil companies are forced to sell at a loss they won't sell at all making the situation even worse... Just a food for thought, maybe a gas Carens is the better deal then convert it into LPG and its still cheaper than the diesel variant. Although not as torqy as the diesel variant, it gets the job done...

[buboymunti]

Now is my turn .....

1. JuneT, Taguig, White LX A/T, Acquired April 2, 2007
2. ojela61, taguig, Cherry Black LX M/T CRDi, January 3, 2008 acquired
3. Mschumacher, Valenzuela, '07 Cherry Black LX M/T, CRDi, March 28, 2008 (corrected from 2007 to 2008 pala)
4. vinrem, bacolod, cherry black LX M/T- diesel, November 2007
5. mqavila, Quezon City, White EX A/T CRDi, 06 June 2008
6. bingski, Quezon City, Cherry Black LX M/T CRDi, December 11, 2007
7. silicon, Quezon City, volcanic red LX a/t CRDi, October 26, 2007
8. SalManila, Mandaluyong City, White EX A/T CRDi, April 2008
9. alvin314159, Pasig City, Black LX AT CRDi, May 2008
10. itlog na pula (mari), sta. rosa, laguna, white EX AT CRDI, December 2007
11. P0chie, Tayabas Quezon Prov.: Indiglo Blue LX M/T CRDI, Dec 8, 2007
12. comp08, Dasmarinas Cavite, Fine Silver LX M/T CRDi, May 17, 2008
13. seymorebutts, bataan, urban gray, LX M/T CRDi, May 2008
14. yhanyhan, san fernando, pampanga, aqua blue, LX A/T CRDi, April 2008
15. erick1, quezon city, cherry black,ex a/t crdi, oct 2007
16. Bobby <Suvfan> Cainta, Red, LX, A/T, Crdi May 8, 2008
17. neil (crichton) Paranaque, Red LX A/T GAS, June 13, 2007
18. Bluebeard, Alabang, Aqua Blue EX A/T Crdi, Jan 18, 2008
19. j_avonni, Quezon City, Cherry Black, LX, AT, CRDi, November 2007
20. jap_nice, Binan, Indigo blue, EX, AT, CRDI, April 2008
21. wiper,sn juan,volcaniicred, lx m/t,crdi,jan.2008
22. mondot, Roxas City Capiz, LX M/T CRDi Urban Gray,May 30,2008
23. altd white EX a/a crdi carens project 4 May 2008
24. magnus, aklan,2008 lx m/t CRDi white, Dec.16, 2007
25. jovill, q.c., 2008 Cherry Black LX CRDI A/T, June 4, 2008
26. b0gart, las pinas, 2007 Volcanic Red LX CRDi M/T, Dec 14, 2007
27. wayward, Iloilo City, LX M/T Crdi white
28. wavecxs, San Pedro, Laguna, LX m/t crdi fine silver, November 2007
29. yagbolz, Imus Cavite, 2008 Cherry Black LX CRDi A/T...07 June 2008
30. ronaldlph, Kamuning, QC. 2008 Urban Gray LX CRDi A/T..28 June 2008
31. Hanren, Baguio City, 2008 Clear White LX CRDi M/T, June 28, 2008
32. Kevin, Muntinlupa, 2007 Clear White LX CRDi M/T, May 2008
33. Tailhook, Legazpi City, Cherry Black LX CRDi M/T, June 20, 2008
34. Jarx, Paranaque, Clear White LX CRDi A/T, March 2008
35. valskie01, sta. ana manila, Fine Silver EX CRDI, July 2, 2008
36. icemancm, las piñas, Fine Silver LX CRDi A/T, June 27, 2008
37. Joshua Ching, Fairview, 2008 Volcano
38. buboymunti, Batangas & StaRosa, 2008 Almond Beige LX CRDi A/T, Dec 29, 2007

[joshua_ching]

Tsk!tsk!tsk!....mukhang bye bye na talaga kami sa KIA Carens hindi nanamin kaya ang 1.2M..sayang...hanap nalang ng iba may be Nissan Grand LIVINA...

Sana yung top of the line ng Nissan Grand livina ang bibilhin ko, pero parang mas gusto ng loob ko at ng misis ko ang Carens. Kung isasama mo kasi ang costs ng LTO at Insurance sa Grand Livina, ang price ay katulad din ng Carens CRDI LX AT!! Mas maganda ang interior ng Carens sa Grand Livina (pero depende ito sa tumitingin. Mas naduduling ang iba sa Carens, at ang iba naman ay sa Grand Livina). Ang ayaw ko pa sa GL ay tatlo lang ang kulay!! Sa Carens ay marami kang pagpipilian. Saka walang CRDI ang Livina...mahal na ang gasoline!! Walang roof rack ang Livina pero puwede namang palagyan at extra costs. Kaya pag pinagsama-sama mo ito pareho din, at aabot ka din ng P1.15M.....kaya eto sa Carens nag-end up kasi:
1. Mas malaki at maluwag
2. Mas matipid ang CRDI 2.0
3. Mas comfortable ang loob, lalo na sa long driving...sayang walang cruise control
4. May kula pula
5. Mas magandang pakinggan ang "Carens" sa "Livina"...sosyal ang Carens, ang Livina ay parang katulong...he he he...joke joke lang...

[zcorrea4]

Please call Kia Taytay dealership for the highest appraisal of your car ( any brand / any model ) for the "TRADE-IN DEALS". Look for Glen 669-1723 / 286-2030. Thanks!

[tidus1203]

Sana yung top of the line ng Nissan Grand livina ang bibilhin ko, pero parang mas gusto ng loob ko at ng misis ko ang Carens. Kung isasama mo kasi ang costs ng LTO at Insurance sa Grand Livina, ang price ay katulad din ng Carens CRDI LX AT!! Mas maganda ang interior ng Carens sa Grand Livina (pero depende ito sa tumitingin. Mas naduduling ang iba sa Carens, at ang iba naman ay sa Grand Livina). Ang ayaw ko pa sa GL ay tatlo lang ang kulay!! Sa Carens ay marami kang pagpipilian. Saka walang CRDI ang Livina...mahal na ang gasoline!! Walang roof rack ang Livina pero puwede namang palagyan at extra costs. Kaya pag pinagsama-sama mo ito pareho din, at aabot ka din ng P1.15M.....kaya eto sa Carens nag-end up kasi:
1. Mas malaki at maluwag
2. Mas matipid ang CRDI 2.0
3. Mas comfortable ang loob, lalo na sa long driving...sayang walang cruise control
4. May kula pula
5. Mas magandang pakinggan ang "Carens" sa "Livina"...sosyal ang Carens, ang Livina ay parang katulong...he he he...joke joke lang...

Yes napakasayang talaga, Carens din gusto ng friend ko sana but the cheapest model is price beyond P1M was just asking too much for them. He could already get the top end Livina for less than a P1M tapos leather seats na... So ngayong Livina vs Innova na. Just when the Kia was gaining steam then this happens

[Eismann]

Honga sayang at 3 nga lang talaga kulay ng Livina....sana may black at red na Livina...

[joshua_ching]

Its not a rumor, it is a fact. Diesel is subsidized in this country that's why its low but it does not reflect the true price of diesel in the world market. Notice last week diesel was raised by P2/L while unleaded rise P1/L. I have been saying this for some time now thats why I am not a believer of diesel as a long term money saver given the price trends and that diesel engines has such a huge price premium over gas engines, and no even if the riots erupt the government can do nothing cause its the world market that dictates the price of diesel. So if you can't pay up for it then you don't get it. Diesel is the fuel of the mass transport, unfortunately as mentioned wala rin silang magagawa since we don't control the prices of diesel. Its either they resort to alternative fuels (like LPG) or take the blow of the prices on their chin. And no government price controls will never work and has never worked. Remember no one sells at a loss, if oil companies are forced to sell at a loss they won't sell at all making the situation even worse... Just a food for thought, maybe a gas Carens is the better deal then convert it into LPG and its still cheaper than the diesel variant. Although not as torqy as the diesel variant, it gets the job done...

Totoo ito sa ibang bansa, katulad ng US at iba pa, pero wala pang nakakapagsabi dito sa Pinas kung ganito nga ang mangyayari. Kung sakaling meron kang reliable source, paki-mention nga (short of compromising someone's position!) para di natin masabing rumor central. Based na rin sa life-experiences ko, alam kong posibleng mangyari ito, o katunayan nangyayari na batay nga doon sa latest price increase!! Sa ngayon ay sa price ng gasolina kinukuha ang subsidy ng Diesel sa Pinas, kaya nga mas mataas ang presyo ng gasolina kaysa sa Diesel. Pero di na nila puwedeng gawin ito dahil sa tataas ng husto ang presyo ng gasolina at ang tendency siyempre ay ang magtakbuhan ang mga tao sa diesel at tataas ang demand ng diesel. Kaya katulad ng sabi mo, ang pinaka common sense approach ay sa diesel din kunin ang subsidy ng "public sector". Kung magko-convert naman sa LPG/CNG ang marami, tataas ang price ng LPG/CNG dahil sa increased demand at later on e mababale-wala ang pagc-convert sa LPG/CNG....Hay buhay...wala kang puntahan ano?

Pero di naman biglaang mangyayari ito dahil sa matatakot din ang gobyerno natin sa "upheaval" ng masa/middle income families"...Pero ngayong taong ito maraming magaganap na maaring di natin inaasahan....let's hope that they're all good...

[joshua_ching]

Its not a rumor, it is a fact. Diesel is subsidized in this country that's why its low but it does not reflect the true price of diesel in the world market. Notice last week diesel was raised by P2/L while unleaded rise P1/L. I have been saying this for some time now thats why I am not a believer of diesel as a long term money saver given the price trends and that diesel engines has such a huge price premium over gas engines, and no even if the riots erupt the government can do nothing cause its the world market that dictates the price of diesel. So if you can't pay up for it then you don't get it. Diesel is the fuel of the mass transport, unfortunately as mentioned wala rin silang magagawa since we don't control the prices of diesel. Its either they resort to alternative fuels (like LPG) or take the blow of the prices on their chin. And no government price controls will never work and has never worked. Remember no one sells at a loss, if oil companies are forced to sell at a loss they won't sell at all making the situation even worse... Just a food for thought, maybe a gas Carens is the better deal then convert it into LPG and its still cheaper than the diesel variant. Although not as torqy as the diesel variant, it gets the job done...

Totoo ito sa ibang bansa, katulad ng US at iba pa, pero wala pang nakakapagsabi dito sa Pinas kung ganito nga ang mangyayari. Kung sakaling meron kang reliable source, paki-mention nga (short of compromising someone's position!) para di natin masabing rumor central. Based na rin sa life-experiences ko, alam kong posibleng mangyari ito, o katunayan nangyayari na batay nga doon sa latest price increase!! Sa ngayon ay sa price ng gasolina kinukuha ang subsidy ng Diesel sa Pinas, kaya nga mas mataas ang presyo ng gasolina kaysa sa Diesel. Pero di na nila puwedeng gawin ito dahil sa tataas ng husto ang presyo ng gasolina at ang tendency siyempre ay ang magtakbuhan ang mga tao sa diesel at tataas ang demand ng diesel. Kaya katulad ng sabi mo, ang pinaka common sense approach ay sa diesel din kunin ang subsidy ng "public sector". Kung magko-convert naman sa LPG/CNG ang marami, tataas ang price ng LPG/CNG dahil sa increased demand at later on e mababale-wala ang pagc-convert sa LPG/CNG....Hay buhay...wala kang puntahan ano?

Pero di naman biglaang mangyayari ito dahil sa matatakot din ang gobyerno natin sa "upheaval" ng masa/middle income families"...Pero ngayong taong ito maraming magaganap na maaring di natin inaasahan....let's hope that they're all good...

[alan99]

kunin nila carnival for 200k tapos may promo cla dadagdagn daw nila ng 150k. takot lang ako, laki na ng nagastos ko sa carnival lalo na sa makina. sa mga naka crdi na carens matibay kaya makina nito? kasi yung carnival ko 50k mileage palit ako ng belt and madami pa 25k nagastos go tapos daling tumagas ng langis sa valve cover and mausok masyado. Any pros and cons sa makina ng carens?

[Tailhook]

Its not a rumor, it is a fact. Diesel is subsidized in this country that's why its low but it does not reflect the true price of diesel in the world market. Notice last week diesel was raised by P2/L while unleaded rise P1/L. I have been saying this for some time now thats why I am not a believer of diesel as a long term money saver given the price trends and that diesel engines has such a huge price premium over gas engines, and no even if the riots erupt the government can do nothing cause its the world market that dictates the price of diesel. So if you can't pay up for it then you don't get it. Diesel is the fuel of the mass transport, unfortunately as mentioned wala rin silang magagawa since we don't control the prices of diesel. Its either they resort to alternative fuels (like LPG) or take the blow of the prices on their chin. And no government price controls will never work and has never worked. Remember no one sells at a loss, if oil companies are forced to sell at a loss they won't sell at all making the situation even worse... Just a food for thought, maybe a gas Carens is the better deal then convert it into LPG and its still cheaper than the diesel variant. Although not as torqy as the diesel variant, it gets the job done...

Even if the price of diesel is jacked up to equal that of unleaded or premium, diesel engined cars still enjoy an advantage when it comes to fuel costs. THis is due to the fact that diesel has more energy per volume than unleaded or premium plus the fact that diesel engines are, by design, inherently more efficient than petrol engines.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel#cite_note-TEDB-1 :

Burning effiency

The density of petroleum diesel is about 0.85 kg/l whereas petrol (gasoline) has a density of about 0.72 kg/l, about 15% less. When burnt, diesel typically releases about 38.6 MJ/l (138700 Btu per US gallon), whereas gasoline releases 34.9 MJ/l (125000 Btu per US gallon), about 11% less.[2] Diesel is generally simpler to refine from petroleum than gasoline

[tidus1203]

Sure sure its more fuel efficient than gas, but ever thought about the price difference of the engine when you buy the car? (its huge for the Carens its like P205,000 for the EX variants) How about maintenance costs? (diesel engine oil is more expensive than gas engine oil, the parts are expensive too compared to gas engines) How about insurance premiums ? (remember the more expensive a vehicle the higher the insurance) If unleaded and diesel is equal in price its so not worth it anymore. Hey don't get me wrong, the CRDi is a very good engine pero for its price difference I just don't buy the logic of getting one, unless of course you have high mileage which I don't...

[alagad]

I treat my Carens the same way I treat my Altis.
From driving habits, to maintanance, to loading.
Everything equal, my Altis 1.6 G a/t is more fuel efficient than my Carens on a km/L basis.

Maraming factors ang nag-ko-control sa FC ng isang sasakyan. See if you can review and change the following:
1. Driving habbits - refrain from racing and jack rabbit stops. Banayad lang ang arangkada at wag sobra-sobra ang tapak sa gas.
2. Tire inflation - look at the tire specs and set your tire pressures at just a tad below the mfgs. max tire pressure recommendation. Mas malambot ang gulong, mas mahirap gumulong at magastos sa gas/diesel.
3. Replace your air filter when dirty. Ang dumi ng hangin sa Metro-Manila kaya ang air filter e saglit lang madumi na at kailangan ng palitan.
4. Change your oil regularly, lalo na kung diesel engine. Pag laging Metro-Manila ang drive, palitan ng di lalagpas sa 3K-5k KM.

Ako dati harurot akong magpatakbo, pero nang minsan na mag-drive ako sa NLEX sinubukan kong mag-drive ng mabagal (80-90kph) at halos nag-improve ang FC ko nang 30% kumpara sa 100-120kph.. bukod doon ay di pa ako pagod na pagod sa pagda-drive dahil nga para lang akong namamasyal...