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    #2181
    Quote Originally Posted by wiper View Post
    nice magss. what is the size of your mags and how much is the damage
    i opted to retain the stock tire (205/65R15). Didnt want to sacrifice comfort and risk voiding the warranty on my suspension. Mostly though, didnt want to spend extra dough on new and more expensive tires. The mags cost 30k, give or take a few, depending on your bargaining skills. Im fairly good at it though. Meaning if the dude says 'tapat na', i usually stop begging for a lower price, which is usually what they first say when you ask about the price. heheheh

    Ever notice that purchasing alloy wheels with handsome tires make the single most dramatic improvement in a car's looks?

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    #2182
    thanks, i also plan to change to mags. I will retain the tire(205x65x15). But the width of the rim will be 6.5 instead of 6.0 . wht should be corret offset. The original offset of the steel rim is 41 and what will be the right offset then.

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    #2183
    Quote Originally Posted by wiper View Post
    thanks, i also plan to change to mags. I will retain the tire(205x65x15). But the width of the rim will be 6.5 instead of 6.0 . wht should be corret offset. The original offset of the steel rim is 41 and what will be the right offset then.
    Not quite sure about the offset though. And yes, the width changed from 6 to 6.5.

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    #2184
    Quote Originally Posted by Tailhook View Post
    If the price increase is true, then the Carens is no longer a bang for the buck vehicle. The main reason for me in purchasing is its value for money...a lot of car for not a lot of money. Seeing that in less than two months, its price increase of 160k completely wipes out its biggest advantage over its competitors.

    I dont know what the folks at Kia are thinking (or are they?) with these unconscionable price increases. Could it be that the Carens and other models are really selling that well that Kia management feels confident that the consumers will still be patronizing their products? If somebody knows the sales figures they might as well post it here. Or could it be to really preserve their profit in light of the ever increasing manufacturing, etc. costs?

    The way to go I think is for KIA to maintain their current prices or even lower it to absolutely make their vehicles stand head and shoulders above their competitors, thereby making those reluctant pinoys to give KIA vehicles a long hard look when purchasing their vehicles. In fact, due to the almost unbearable price of unleaded/premium, now is the absolute best time to convince the consumers to switch over to CRDi diesel technology.They can't do this or this would simply be quite impossible if they keep on jacking up their prices.

    Then, when the market gets flooded with KIA vehicles and the ordinary pinoy gets to be convinced that KIA is equal to or even better than the japanese brands, then and only then, should KIA put on premium pricing.

    Kumbaga, kung nanliligaw pa lang sila ng mga customers, eh dapat ma-entice sila with a good value for money proposition. Eh kung taas ng taas ng presyo sila, papaano pa sila i-consider? Nag-uumpisa pa lang eh basted na kaagad.
    Eto yung latest price list kasama na yung latest na increase.
    Source: http://philippines.kia-global.com/

    [SIZE=3] [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens Gas EX AT – 1,005,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi LX MT – 1,050,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi LX AT – 1,100,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi EX AT – 1,210,000[/SIZE]
    Last edited by Hanren; July 7th, 2008 at 07:07 AM.

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    #2185
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Eto yung latest price list kasama na yung latest na increase.
    Source: http://philippines.kia-global.com/


    [SIZE=3]Carens Gas EX AT – 1,005,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi LX MT – 1,050,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi LX AT – 1,100,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi EX AT – 1,210,000[/SIZE]
    Kia should have a very good reason for this, hope that they can explain why the huge price increase. I hope di lumaki ang ulo nila bcoz they were voted as the #1 distributor in asia-pacific....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    Kia should have a very good reason for this, hope that they can explain why the huge price increase. I hope di lumaki ang ulo nila bcoz they were voted as the #1 distributor in asia-pacific....
    May naconvince akong friend ko na kumuha na lang ng Carens instead of the picanto pero nung nalaman nya yung increases ng both models (lalo na dun sa Carens),allergic na raw siya sa 1m na price tag kaya hanap na lang daw siya ng iba..Sayang! Kung sakali dalawa pa sana kaming magkaibigan na may Carens

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    #2187
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Eto yung latest price list kasama na yung latest na increase.
    Source: http://philippines.kia-global.com/


    [SIZE=3]Carens Gas EX AT – 1,005,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi LX MT – 1,050,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi LX AT – 1,100,000[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Carens CRDi EX AT – 1,210,000[/SIZE]
    My brod also wanted to buy a Carens when he saw mine but changed his mind when he saw the Captiva latest prices and better features/ accessories (2 airbags, ABS, 6-disc changer, high ground clearance, etc)
    He says: "A 4x2 CRDi model costs P1.299M, add the P28K for the 3rd row seats, equals P1.327M, not that bad actually."

    Lookout CAC-KIA!

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    #2188
    I also have a friend who has the Carens in his list, pero now mukang Innova na kukunin nya since below P1M pa rin naman...

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    #2189
    Hmm... this doesnt bode well for the Carens...

    As for the reason why Kia decided to do this, I don't think its because of an increase in manufacturing costs... take a look at the new prices... only the CRDi variants have increased in price while the EX A/T Gas variant still remains at its original price of P1,005,000.00. It stands to reason that if manufacturing costs for the CRDi variants are increasing (thereby justifying an increase in price), the same would go for the gas variant... at least to a certain degree... Then, why is the price of the gas variant constant while the price of the CRDi variant is shooting up?

    Does Kia have any valid reason why this is so? Of course, this is other than the fact that the CRDi variants most probably sell much much better than the gas variants...

    In other words, the reason why Kia increased its prices is due to the increasing popularity and sellability of their vehicles...

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    #2190
    this means that we aren't going to be as BIG a group as we though we would be.... lalong dadami lang ang Innova at Livina sa daan. MONEY is more important than reputation for Columbian... that's all there is to it. Another blunder for CAC, makes me a bit regretful on my purchase... not with the car per se, but with the company behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silicon View Post
    this means that we aren't going to be as BIG a group as we though we would be.... lalong dadami lang ang Innova at Livina sa daan. MONEY is more important than reputation for Columbian... that's all there is to it. Another blunder for CAC, makes me a bit regretful on my purchase... not with the car per se, but with the company behind it.

    Personally, I LOVE my car. I thoroughly enjoy its power, its comfort, its looks, and its versatility. And I would love it if a thousand others would be able to enjoy what I'm enjoying now.

    I'm really glad that I was able to buy this car before the series of price increases but it really saddens me that the price increase had to happen in the first place... I really hope that CAC will roll back its prices again in the future.

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    #2192
    I already have 20+tkm in my odometer. Does anyone have higher mileage than this? So far I don't notice any major concern.

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    #2193
    I agree with you.

    masyado silang hot magtaas ng price.

    it's much too soon.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tailhook View Post
    If the price increase is true, then the Carens is no longer a bang for the buck vehicle. The main reason for me in purchasing is its value for money...a lot of car for not a lot of money. Seeing that in less than two months, its price increase of 160k completely wipes out its biggest advantage over its competitors.

    I dont know what the folks at Kia are thinking (or are they?) with these unconscionable price increases. Could it be that the Carens and other models are really selling that well that Kia management feels confident that the consumers will still be patronizing their products? If somebody knows the sales figures they might as well post it here. Or could it be to really preserve their profit in light of the ever increasing manufacturing, etc. costs?

    The way to go I think is for KIA to maintain their current prices or even lower it to absolutely make their vehicles stand head and shoulders above their competitors, thereby making those reluctant pinoys to give KIA vehicles a long hard look when purchasing their vehicles. In fact, due to the almost unbearable price of unleaded/premium, now is the absolute best time to convince the consumers to switch over to CRDi diesel technology.They can't do this or this would simply be quite impossible if they keep on jacking up their prices.

    Then, when the market gets flooded with KIA vehicles and the ordinary pinoy gets to be convinced that KIA is equal to or even better than the japanese brands, then and only then, should KIA put on premium pricing.

    Kumbaga, kung nanliligaw pa lang sila ng mga customers, eh dapat ma-entice sila with a good value for money proposition. Eh kung taas ng taas ng presyo sila, papaano pa sila i-consider? Nag-uumpisa pa lang eh basted na kaagad.

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    #2194
    Sana bawas bawasan na lang nila expenses nila sa ads. Mas maganda kung maraming mas makaka afford at mas maraming Carens sa daan. Personally, mas natutuwa ako pag mag nakakasalubong akong Carens sa daan kesa sa nakikita kong full page ads sa diyaryo (Kanino kaya yung nasalubing ko sa Dagupan kahapon na White LX na ala pang plate tulad ko galing Kia Pangasinan??) .

    Btw, curious lang ako pero napansin ko parang may “heartbeat” (or vibrations at a regular interval) ang clutch pedal kapag nakarest ang paa ko kahit naka idle. Normal kaya yon? M/T ang sa akin. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silicon View Post
    this means that we aren't going to be as BIG a group as we though we would be.... lalong dadami lang ang Innova at Livina sa daan. MONEY is more important than reputation for Columbian... that's all there is to it. Another blunder for CAC, makes me a bit regretful on my purchase... not with the car per se, but with the company behind it.
    You said it right!!! di tayo dadami as a group, last year when i purchased my carens, kala ko talaga dadami ang bibili nito, kasi may alternative na sa innova and the crosswinds, and also it has a great engine, great ride, great value.....but now bcoz of the price increase, ang lalabas sa carens natin ay RARE (one of a kind), and if an item is very rare or one of a kind, d bah mamahal ito???parang collectors item...hehehehe

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    #2196
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Btw, curious lang ako pero napansin ko parang may “heartbeat” (or vibrations at a regular interval) ang clutch pedal kapag nakarest ang paa ko kahit naka idle. Normal kaya yon? M/T ang sa akin. Thanks.
    Hmmmm, parang familiar ang sinasabi mo ah, i felt it when i test drive the carens last November, parang may heartbeat at a regular interval, have you brought it to the casa???

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    Hmmmm, parang familiar ang sinasabi mo ah, i felt it when i test drive the carens last November, parang may heartbeat at a regular interval, have you brought it to the casa???
    same with our kia carens.. nung mabili namin eh ganun na brand new talaga with 27kms on odo kasi galing sa stockyard dinala sa dealership.. isa pang napansin ko eh when you release the clutch halfway (slide clutch) and rev the engine may ingay ka madidinig na parang grinding sound.. faint lang naman pero ramdam mo pero pag fully release wala naman problem

    siguro normal talaga yan possible kasi na bago pa yung clutch kaya hindi pa lapat na lapat...

    pero ok lang naman yan as long as walang driveability problems....mas ok na yan kesa yun engine na biglang namamatay di ba..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    same with our kia carens.. nung mabili namin eh ganun na brand new talaga with 27kms on odo kasi galing sa stockyard dinala sa dealership.. isa pang napansin ko eh when you release the clutch halfway (slide clutch) and rev the engine may ingay ka madidinig na parang grinding sound.. faint lang naman pero ramdam mo pero pag fully release wala naman problem

    siguro normal talaga yan possible kasi na bago pa yung clutch kaya hindi pa lapat na lapat...

    pero ok lang naman yan as long as walang driveability problems....mas ok na yan kesa yun engine na biglang namamatay di ba..
    Heheheh parang may tinutukoy ka dun a.

    Ano kaya ang iniisip ng columbian for their price increase. Para ba silang mga gasolina na kailangan magprice increase para makahabol sa increase ng market. Ni hindi naman sa walang choices ang buyer natin dito and beside dami pa nga nagdudududa sa korean cars e. gaganyanin na nila.

    And I don't think na sa kia korea mismo ang may problem e. Kung iisipin mo kung sa korea ang may problem kaya kailangan magprice increase ng ganun kataas well dapat pati ang hyundai and sangyong nagtataasan na din. The fact na ang kia ay hyundai owned dapat mas may right ang hyundai magtaas. They are just plain dumb and greedy. Pag ganito lang din ang price nila now no doubt Captiva ang best option between the two.
    I love my carens but sinisira ng columbian ang kia dito sa atin due to all their price increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    Hmmmm, parang familiar ang sinasabi mo ah, i felt it when i test drive the carens last November, parang may heartbeat at a regular interval, have you brought it to the casa???
    Hindi ko pa nadala sa Signet pero siguro pag hindi normal yung ganun eh baka madala ko.. thanks sir vinrem

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    I am disappointed with my Carens FC. The Sales Agent claimed it could go 12km/L city driving.
    I am only getting an average of 8.5km/L.
    my 2003 Altis G a/t is even more fuel efficient at 9.5km/L.

    My 1995 lancer and my 1999 starex had economy and power mode.
    I usually set them at economy mode for city driving and seldom set them to power mode(only at expressways and going up to Baguio or Tagaytay).

    I wish Carens has the same feature.
    I think it is set to POWER Mode all the time.


    Quote Originally Posted by SalManila View Post
    I agree with this. I noticed my FC went up when the school year started and I have to sit in traffic a lot. Ang lakas kumain ng fuel. Parang naging 6km/liter na lang.

    I also feel na we should be able to shift 4th gear at 50kph.

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