2007 Kia Carens [ARCHIVE]

[welscua]

Sure sure its more fuel efficient than gas, but ever thought about the price difference of the engine when you buy the car? (its huge for the Carens its like P205,000 for the EX variants) How about maintenance costs? (diesel engine oil is more expensive than gas engine oil, the parts are expensive too compared to gas engines) How about insurance premiums ? (remember the more expensive a vehicle the higher the insurance) If unleaded and diesel is equal in price its so not worth it anymore. Hey don't get me wrong, the CRDi is a very good engine pero for its price difference I just don't buy the logic of getting one, unless of course you have high mileage which I don't...

I agree with you. As I have posted in other threads before, in some countries, diesel is now more expensive than gasoline. Why? Due to rapid industrialization of China and India, demand for diesel is higher than gasoline in the world market and due to higher demand diesel is now is more expensive than gas. Industries use diesel to run their equipment like generators, vehicles, powerplants, etc.. I remember the TV Patrol news yesterday, the local oil companies need to recover higher cost in diesel compared with gasoline.

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[magnusthegreat]

I'm back after two weeks, i missed reading this thread. The typhoon frank hit us so hard its only now that i was able to connect again. The flood water reached as high as ten feet in some places. I looked for higher ground my carens but abot pa rin.The flood water reached the dashboard of my carens. Abot pati computer box. But the test drove it yesterday and today...sa awa ng diyos abot ko pa rin speed of 140k/h.matibay din pala sa baha ang carens.

[tidus1203]

Its good to hear your car is okay and more importantly you are okay...

[magnusthegreat]

andar lahat. Believe me.

[magnusthegreat]

Its good to hear your car is okay and more importantly you are okay...

thanks. its good that the flood came in the afternoon if it happened at night tiyak daming patay.

[joshua_ching]

kunin nila carnival for 200k tapos may promo cla dadagdagn daw nila ng 150k. takot lang ako, laki na ng nagastos ko sa carnival lalo na sa makina. sa mga naka crdi na carens matibay kaya makina nito? kasi yung carnival ko 50k mileage palit ako ng belt and madami pa 25k nagastos go tapos daling tumagas ng langis sa valve cover and mausok masyado. Any pros and cons sa makina ng carens?

Mukhang di mo kailangang magpalit ng Carnival, kung hindi kailangan mong magpalit ng mekaniko. Di tapat tumatagas ang langis mo kung pinalitan ng bagong gasket ang valve cover mo. Standard procedure ito pag binuksan ang valve cover. Saka mababa ang 50K mileage para palitan ang belt (timing belt di ba?). Mukhang di ito na-align ng tama nung gawin sa factory. Lastly, kailangan mong ipalinis ng husto ang injectors ng diesel mo at i-calibrate ng mahusay ng mechanic para equal ang pag-burn ng krudo.

Wala akong kakilalang mahusay na diesel mechanic, pero siguro makakakita ka dito sa forum.

Tungkol naman sa Carens, ang pinaka-malaking mileage dito ay 29,000KM sabi ng isang poster at wala siyang problema pa. Sana magpatuloy iyon para maging panatag naman ang loob namin na bago pa ang mga Carens.

Ang KIA nung mga 8 years ago ay ibang KIA sa ngayon. Nag-improve sila ng manufacturing ng mga 300%. Di mo ako mapapabili ng KIA 8 years ago, unless murang-mura, at talagang mas mura ang mga KIA noon kaysa ngayon. Pero bakit ba naman ang KIA Pride? 20 years old na dami pa ring tumatakbo sa kalye?

[Mschumacher]

kunin nila carnival for 200k tapos may promo cla dadagdagn daw nila ng 150k. takot lang ako, laki na ng nagastos ko sa carnival lalo na sa makina. sa mga naka crdi na carens matibay kaya makina nito? kasi yung carnival ko 50k mileage palit ako ng belt and madami pa 25k nagastos go tapos daling tumagas ng langis sa valve cover and mausok masyado. Any pros and cons sa makina ng carens?

Well try mo sa kia libis baka makakuha ka pa ng freebies pero same subsidy pa rin. I think the subsidy is a joke to push the buyer to thinking that they got a huge discount. Why don't they remove the maximum subsidy discount from the regular price and the price of the unit will go down and many prospective buyers will buy this wonderful car again.

I just went to hyundai earlier and ask them if they have a price increase. The SC said to that they have no price increase and they dont have a plan of increasing their prices as well. To think of it kia and hyundai are the same. They share the same engine and technology and design. So why do they have a huge gap in price. I think the one that is jacking up ths prices is the Columbian itself. If they got it now at a higher price then hyundai shpuld jack up their price also since they share the same mother company. what do you guys think.

[Mschumacher]

Mukhang di mo kailangang magpalit ng Carnival, kung hindi kailangan mong magpalit ng mekaniko. Di tapat tumatagas ang langis mo kung pinalitan ng bagong gasket ang valve cover mo. Standard procedure ito pag binuksan ang valve cover. Saka mababa ang 50K mileage para palitan ang belt (timing belt di ba?). Mukhang di ito na-align ng tama nung gawin sa factory. Lastly, kailangan mong ipalinis ng husto ang injectors ng diesel mo at i-calibrate ng mahusay ng mechanic para equal ang pag-burn ng krudo.

Wala akong kakilalang mahusay na diesel mechanic, pero siguro makakakita ka dito sa forum.

Tungkol naman sa Carens, ang pinaka-malaking mileage dito ay 29,000KM sabi ng isang poster at wala siyang problema pa. Sana magpatuloy iyon para maging panatag naman ang loob namin na bago pa ang mga Carens.

Ang KIA nung mga 8 years ago ay ibang KIA sa ngayon. Nag-improve sila ng manufacturing ng mga 300%. Di mo ako mapapabili ng KIA 8 years ago, unless murang-mura, at talagang mas mura ang mga KIA noon kaysa ngayon. Pero bakit ba naman ang KIA Pride? 20 years old na dami pa ring tumatakbo sa kalye?

Well mukhang mahaba haba na ang nabasa mo a. I think april ko pa naipost yun 29k na mileage na yun a. Well I think nasa 40k na siguro mileage nun ngayon kasi 8 month old pa lang daw yung unit niya that time e. Sabay kasi kami nagpachange oil nun siya e pang 30k ako e 1k siya rin ang nagsabi sa akin na kaya umabot ng 200kph kaya sinubukan ko tlaga kung kaya well kaya nga and meron pang ibubuga.

[Mschumacher]

andar lahat. Believe me.

Well I believe you. Pero ganyan din nangyari sa lancer ko e. ok siya at first pero nung tumagal pa after a year ayun nagloko na clutch ko nung tinignan ko yun pressure plate ko ayun bali bali na lahat kinain ng kalawang kaya I suggest go to your nearest kia and claim your warranty mag isip ka ng dahilan at sabihin mo na may nararamdaman ka hehehe.

[Jameson168]

I'll pick Innova or Captiva kung gusto ko ng diesel... ang mahal na dating pinagnanasaan ko pa naman itong kotse na ito...

Carens 2.0 GAS EX AT 1,005,000
Carens 2.0 CRDi LX MT 1,050,000
Carens 2.0 CRDi LX AT 1,100,000
Carens 2.0 CRDi EX AT 1,210,000

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[silicon]

I'm back after two weeks, i missed reading this thread. The typhoon frank hit us so hard its only now that i was able to connect again. The flood water reached as high as ten feet in some places. I looked for higher ground my carens but abot pa rin.The flood water reached the dashboard of my carens. Abot pati computer box. But the test drove it yesterday and today...sa awa ng diyos abot ko pa rin speed of 140k/h.matibay din pala sa baha ang carens.

glad to know hear from you again, man. it's good that you are alright!

[alan99]

sakit na raw ng mga lumang carnival ang timing belt madali daw maputol kaya paltan ko na bago maputol para mas mura gastos and the valve cover gasket madali din masira kaya every 6 months palit and ang mahal din pa calibrate mga 15k.

Sabi sa akin ng SA ko issue daw ako ng check for reservation para 1.04m ang price ng lx a/t refundable naman daw. Grabe hirap mag decide pero sa mga nabasa ko dto mukhang ok naman carens. D ko lang alam kung ma eexcite ako pag bumili ng carens o kabahan ako kasi baka mali desisyon ko.

[yapoy86]

sakit na raw ng mga lumang carnival ang timing belt madali daw maputol kaya paltan ko na bago maputol para mas mura gastos and the valve cover gasket madali din masira kaya every 6 months palit and ang mahal din pa calibrate mga 15k.

you can compare the kia carens to a sedan...with the bonus additional seats that can be also used as luggage / compartment.. panalo sa looks, style and technology..

others may say na mahal ang diesel engines but for the fact na diesel engines are built to last longer than petrol engines... kahit noon pa man na wala pa CRDi mas mahal talaga ang diesel engine.. sa surplus ganun din..

im sorry for saying this pero i think BOBO yan mekaniko mo or kung sa casa man yan BOBO mga nag aadvice sayo....

yung kia carnival 2001 LS model kinuha ng trade-in for 300k hindi namin tinanggap.. tapos nag offer ulet sila sa 310k ayun binigay na namin.. kasi talagang maganda yung van ko...

sa totoo lang yang valve cover ng carnival pag hindi marunong or expert yung magkakabit eh sablay talaga yan at tatagas lang ulit...

yung carbon deposit dyan sa valve ok lang yan, pero kung mausok sobra yung tambutso mo pa calibrate ka na

yung timing belt naman maniwala kayo sa hindi 99,000kms ko pinalitan and to my surprise buong buo pa yung timing belt ko wala nga bitak bitak or signs na mapuputol na...pati mga tensioners smooth pa lahat...

sa timing belt use CONTITECH brand yung original yan na Made in Germany

[alan99]

tnx for the advise yapoy benta ko na talaga yung carnival ko kahit anong mangyari and sa tingin ko naman maganda carens malayo talaga ride sa innova kasi may innova din kami pati loob ang layo ng itsura. Bigay na ako ng check sa SA ko mamayang hapon para sa reservation para abot sa lumang price.

[mqavila]

tnx for the advise yapoy benta ko na talaga yung carnival ko kahit anong mangyari and sa tingin ko naman maganda carens malayo talaga ride sa innova kasi may innova din kami pati loob ang layo ng itsura. Bigay na ako ng check sa SA ko mamayang hapon para sa reservation para abot sa lumang price.

CONGRATS on your upcoming new ride, sir alan99! You won't regret it!

[itlog na pula]

alan99,

the carens is a really good car. i like it for a host of reasons.

other that the interior and exterior aesthetics, i love her leg room, particularly the second row. it is just soooo roomy and comfortable. if i wasn't doing all the driving, i'd like to be able to enjoy a ride at the back for a change!

also, another thing i enjoy about the car is the ease of getting in and out. pang babae daw yung oto. to some maybe pero i'd like to think of her as more of a "CHICK MAGNET"!!! kung may ka-date kang naka mini, hindi maiilang sumakay!!!

she isn't an suv so you really have to drive her differently in my response to concerns to her ground clearance. it's still the same as most sedans anyway.

sure what we have is a watered down version (but so are some of the other car brands/models) but from what i've seen so far, it's all good quality. from the solid "thump" of all the doors to the interior finish.

[alan99]

tnx sa mga advise mam/sir cant wait na sa carens namin kunin ko silver na lx a/t sana may stock sa dealer ko

[joshua_ching]

I treat my Carens the same way I treat my Altis.
From driving habits, to maintanance, to loading.
Everything equal, my Altis 1.6 G a/t is more fuel efficient than my Carens on a km/L basis.

Siyempre naman mas magiging matipid ang Corolla Altis mo dahil mas maliit ang makina noon, at saka mas mabigat ang Carens. Hands down mas matipid ang Corolla. Sana maikumpara natin ang FC mo sa kapwa Carens din na M/T at CRDI.

Di ko pa nakukuha ang Carens ko na AT, CRDI, pero inaasahan ko na mas makunsumo ito kumpara sa M/T na CRDI. I'll let you know as soon as I have my data.

[joshua_ching]

Ewan ko ba sa Tsikot...minsan double of posting..maski na once lang napindot.

[BLY]

Hi guys! I've been a long time lurker in this thread kasi this car is one of my choices, as I am planning to buy in the next two weeks or so. Nagsesearch din ako sa mga ibang forums regarding this car, especially the known issues. The Kia Carens owners from the US and Canada have a problem of "pulling to the right" when they are driving. Some CRDi owners from UK and NZ also have the same issue. I am wondering if meron din ito sa mga Carens owners dito. Thanks... http://www.kia-forums.com/kia-carens...ing-right.html