Remote bypass oil filtration

[Ry_Tower]

The easiest way to find your filter so we don't clutter the tread to much is to go back and look at the links to all the filter companies that the other members posted as well as myself. You can just use the number off your current filter and cross reference.


This site will help you BIG TIME! it gives the crosses for Baldwin, Fleetguard and a bunch of other alternatives. Took me hours of looking on the net to find this one. Gives you oil, air and fuel.
Here's your 4M40 for example.

http://www.js-filter.com/catalogue#6...SUBISHI/Delica

http://www.js-filter.com/catalogue This site rocks! make it a bookmark



I'll slap this up for easy use for many people. Use the baldwin filter guide for this one it works best for Union and VIC. This covers most vehicles in the Philippines for oil filters. If you absolutely can't find your filter feel post it up. I think we got every vehicle covered on this thread alone. Remember you don't have to use the factory sized filter you can go bigger but stay close to the same outer diameter of the filter and close in the bypass valve setting plus or minus 5psi.

Thanks for this. I did made a bookmark it.

[12vdc]

* 12vdc, you have turned into a filthy filter hoarder like me LOL. They are interesting for some reason, hey gives us something useful to do in our free time.

* DVldoc, if you are planning to setup a mech school, iL be one of your first students.


But right now im a fleetguard certified hoarder..haha



http://www.fleetschool.com/
http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/htm...g_modules.html

I did the test in 30mins including the readings..

[12vdc]

From what My UK diesel mech buddy the lift pumps on these can have problems with the high efficiency fuel filters due to restriction. But CAT and Baldwin use a microglass / cellulose so they will flow better than a cellulose filter and still have a higher dirt holding capacity and will filter better. Baldwin and CAT are popular for this because of the mixed media. Fleetguard has fewer synthetic media fuel filters. Their Cellulose filters almost as well but will not flow as well. If your going to get a high efficiency go with CAT or Baldwin, or Even Donaldson. But you can always try your rig is a bit more modern than mine. But if you get sluggish performance and hesitation it's probably because the filter is to restrictive.

That big Donaldson you got is a 10 micron filter.

I like there site because it gives you the micron rating of the filter. Fleetguard and Baldwin I always have to call. I am going to look into those oversized ones for my primary filter, I should have enough space.

Its also good to look at those spare filters hanging in the garage..
Problem is how to get the genuine filters.. I think some dealers stopped Donaldsons because of many fakes.. The one i got is also a counterfeit and if you will look at the construction, its the same with the ripoff Fleetguard - with the red primer paint inside of canister, and some unshaved metals of the spring..

With the so many horror stories of CRDI engines, im getting OC about bad fuel here because I wanted my injectors to last for atleast 300k or more

The 1kzte and Elgrand have the primer built right into the filter head

Is that wire in the head for the fuel heater?

Our Navara have two filters.
Primary(used to be fuel/water separator) which is nearest the tank and where WiF is plugged-in the buttom.. Secondary (plain filter with drain plug) connected to head w/ priming-pump.


I'L try testing how restrictive the 2microns would be, im out to look for banjo bolts for the head.. If the result will be restrictive, i will remove the secondary filter in lieu of my planned 2micron filter..

Now my problem is the primig pump for 1-14. Maybe one of these days iL visit some tractor surplus and ship-inboard suppliers.

[dvldoc]

To me since 10 microns nominal for old school diesels and Gen 2 CRDI engines is a good filter as long as they are 2 to 5 microns absolute. Remember factory is around 40 microns and up,

wow that's a lot a crap going through your injectors and we all know how dirty the diesel is in the Philippines no wonder so many D4D's have so many problem.

Nope no school for me but I'm happy to teach and do car club meets any time. And you can be sure the old devil will not carry any fake filters. Getting out of control here I got to start shipping some of these to my house there soon lol.


It's a shame there are so many fakes sold there but at least most of the man filters for common vehicles can still be found. I had a feeling that was going to be the case when I saw some fakes in Dau at that big hardware surplus market.

I am glad you mentioned the filter heads now that I know this you guys should start looking into remote transmission filters.

I did post it on a different thread but I will put it here to.

[dvldoc]

Remote transmission oil filters.

Most vehicles there will use a 3/8" ID or 5/16" hose 5/16 is common on Toyota and Nissan. All you need is a good oil filter and filter head, some trans hose, hose clamps, and mounting bracket.

http://tsikot.com/forums/showthread....mission-filter.

You can see mine here on the right.

[locoroco777]

this thread is getting exciting with each added reply! keep 'em coming 12dvc and dvldoc!

[edtf]

OK dvldoc I shall give you a challenge!

I am planning to get an isuzu giga 10 wheeler truck with the 6 cylinder engine and I was thinking of doing a remote bypass for the truck - How do I go about it? You think you can help me out sourcing the connections etc etc that I would be needing?

[dvldoc]

OK dvldoc I shall give you a challenge!

I am planning to get an isuzu giga 10 wheeler truck with the 6 cylinder engine and I was thinking of doing a remote bypass for the truck - How do I go about it? You think you can help me out sourcing the connections etc etc that I would be needing?

Don't know if it's possible with these, I'm pretty sure most use the large cartridge style filters. But again I don't know what engine you will have.

But here is a list of all the OEM part numbers for oil filters for all heavy duty and asian diesels including the Giga just type in Giga in the pdf search.

This should be more than usefull to get your part numbers to see what kind of filter you have.

http://www.nbmotor.com/prodpics/2007...0915211553.pdf

This second one is even more helpfull it's Baldwins cross refrence and it has Giga engines (all of them) with the oil, fuel,air, filters listed. But it's a excel spread sheet if this link does not work you can PM me your email address and I will get it to you. But it looks like most of them already use a bypass oil system most heavy equipment does so no need for a remote bypass kit.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Tc9w0sqkwG0kFA

[dvldoc]

If someo could reply back with the correct filter for a Ford WLT 2.5 turbo diesel engine. The one from the Everest and Ranger. I have conflicting data just trying to verify it for my files.

Thanks

[dvldoc]

Well my search for the Ranger/Everest filter is still conflicting but in my hunt I checked the Ford club Philippines site and was looking for answers unfortunately the part number did not cross reference up to anything.

But I did find this, Another prime example of the fakes that are out there, you should be very leary of buying from these little small autoparts store especially. Make sure you look out for the obvious,

No country of origin, box that does not look like the normal factory unit, Filter has plastic covering just the bottom. (ONLY) China filters will have this do not buy them your risking your engine.

First was the funny business with the box. Motorcraft will always have the FORD logo on it.



Then there is the filter. Do you see what I see?





Ford dealer in the Philippines purchased oil filter. Notice the FORD logo on the box next to Motorcraft, That will always be present in a real one.



Now the filter



Fake filters can lead to many vehilce engine failures, a simple thing like a poorly designed anti drain back valve can cause serious wear on start up because there is no oil in the filter.

Poorly designed bypass valve might not open at the right psi or not at all, And knowing all the China fakes they use a filter media that is not even cellulose it's like strait epoxy treated paper and very brittle and becomes clogged easily. Clogged filter with no bypass equal no oil for your engine.

Also a bad bypass can cause sever pressure in the filter and believe me these China knock offs are not rated as high as OEM, If you want to suddenly loose oil pressure due to it bursting feel free to buy them.

It's becoming very clear the market is saturated with Fakes. Buyer beware.

[Wh1stl3r]

Pics naman sir?

Mali pala bro, the fuel filter that had a plunger on top was on the Dmax TDi. The Innova has a fuel separator as well.

[kutangbato]

Mabuksan nga sa weekend yung Vic na gamit na sa bahay. I'll check the internals kung ano klaseng material ang ginamit.

sir, anu na un materials ng vic filters, is it cellulose or foam lamang po? pictures naman po dyan.

[dvldoc]

VIC is Cellulose, They tend to dye there filter media for some reason could be a resign or something to strengthen it, I be curious to see some different ones cut open.

[Ry_Tower]

A good add on to this thread if people can post the aftermarket filters they see on the shelf there so we can tell you which are the good and the not so good.

So far we know this.

Fleetguard - Fleet service heavy duty filter

Baldwin- Fleet service heavy duty filter

Bosch- good over the counter filter

Mann- decent filter not the best specs for efficiency but well built

Fram- Orange can of death, one of the worst on the market.

OEM-Toyota black can not made by Mann, Low quality filter

OEM-Honda low quality filter paper end caps, cheaply made

OEM-Madaz decent filter good for 5000k oil changes

OEM-Nissan white can, total garbage, foam filter media thin cardboard

Nissan- made by Mann, decent over the counter filter 5000k use.

Mobil1-good over the counter filter

K&N - good over the counter filter

WIX- above average oil filter heavy duty construction.

OEM-Ford (Motorcraft filter) Good over the counter filter

ACDelco-None Ultraguard and Duraguard are of very low quality

OEM-Hyundai-good OEM filter

VIC- Very cheaply made, restrictive bypass valve, poor filter media

Union-Decent over the counter filter, basic paper media 5000k Change out

JHF- Decent Koren made over the counter filter 5000k use

Fil- lable says (for) Toyota, red and white box, Yellow lettering on filer, undersized filter media, bad bypass valve cause filter to recirculate unfilterd oil.

Fil-Fram Koren version. same issues. Steel on steel relief valve fails to seal, leaves dirty oil circulating.

Toyota (Denso) Japan, has on average fewer pleats for fitering vs other filters. Example MANN has 60 pleats vs Densos 29, vs Frams 59 in the same size filter. Very short life filter.

Fellow Tskoit member await your input

Purolator makes good oil filters as well right? It's the one my friend bought kasi. Can't find W&L Trading kasi and Volmax in Manila.

[desert fox]

Never pa kaming nakaexperience na me magreklamong customer na sumabog ang Fleetguard filters.

FYI lang mga bros.

[dvldoc]

Purolator makes good oil filters as well right? It's the one my friend bought kasi. Can't find W&L Trading kasi and Volmax in Manila.

Purolators are perfectly good filters, I have posted plenty of pics of them on the site.

The Purolator Premium line of oil filters are 96% efficient * 30 microns; 85% efficient * 20 microns and 60% efficient * 10 micron. There Purolator classic is 97.5% at 35 microns.

So they filter about as well as a standard Fleetguard but not as heavy duty construction. But for a daily driver they are perfect. But nothing wrong with a purolator they are solid filters. I do believe Speedlab carries these as there standard filter.

[Ry_Tower]

Purolators are perfectly good filters, I have posted plenty of pics of them on the site.

The Purolator Premium line of oil filters are 96% efficient * 30 microns; 85% efficient * 20 microns and 60% efficient * 10 micron. There Purolator classic is 97.5% at 35 microns.

So they filter about as well as a standard Fleetguard but not as heavy duty construction. But for a daily driver they are perfect. But nothing wrong with a purolator they are solid filters. I do believe Speedlab carries these as there standard filter.

Thanks, this is the onesI have bought and it will arrive soon. Will change my filter once it arrives. P560 for it. Hope to see significant reduction in oil particles flowing in the engine. Ace hardware.

[crazy_boy]

Thanks, this is the onesI have bought and it will arrive soon. Will change my filter once it arrives. P560 for it. Hope to see significant reduction in oil particles flowing in the engine. Ace hardware.

wow. Purolator is expensive din pala. i was expecting high 300s lang yung price.

Bosch filter. 390 bili ko sa distro nila.

[blue_gambit]

wow. Purolator is expensive din pala. i was expecting high 300s lang yung price.

Bosch filter. 390 bili ko sa distro nila.

San yung Distro CB ?

[crazy_boy]

San yung Distro CB ?

warren auto supply BG, sa binondo ito.

390 for 4M40 and 350 for 4D56 yata.

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