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    There's over 8,000 test backlog... DOH estimat around 10 percent with be positive.

    DOH: Lung Center scales down testing amid staggering COVID-19 samples | Inquirer News

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc21420 View Post
    PH has ‘flattened the curve’, says epidemiologist
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    in my own opinion,
    we haven't flattened the curve yet,
    if our number of new cases per day,
    is more than the number of new recoveries per day.
    again, this is my simplistic way of looking at things.
    those with other opinions, kindly chime in.
    Last edited by dr. d; May 6th, 2020 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    There's over 8,000 test backlog... DOH estimat around 10 percent with be positive.

    DOH: Lung Center scales down testing amid staggering COVID-19 samples | Inquirer News
    for significant herd immunity to kick in, current literature suggests it'd have to be 70-80%.

    what is our current doubling rate?
    we can then compute the time when we can theoretically achieve significant herd immunity.

    but does this mean, i'll go out sans mask come herd immunity day?
    nope. i'll still mask on!
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; May 6th, 2020 at 04:49 PM.

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    Singapore passes a omnimous number... but still has the fewest death vs infection of just 18.


    Number of coronavirus cases crosses 20,000 in Singapore with 788 new infections, Singapore News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

    Looking at the worldmeter Singapore has already tested 143,919 and has over 20,000 positive cases.

    Philippines has tested 132,689 and has less than 10k cases....

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    Just passed 10k


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in my own opinion,
    we haven't flattened the curve yet,
    if our number of new cases per day,
    is more than the number of new recoveries per day.
    again, this is my simplistic way of looking at things.
    those with other opinions, kindly chime in.
    Doc medyo same kayo ng opinion ni Dr. Benjamin Co

    “We are not bending the curve,” warns Dr. Co, a pharmacologist as well. DOH’s website has a linear graph of daily new cases, recoveries and deaths. In Dr. Co’s blog a logarithmic scale shows the doubling time of infectees. From an exponential growth every 7.2 days as of May 1, decision makers can plot weeks ahead.

    Ready or not for lifting of COVID-19 lockdown? | Philstar.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in my own opinion,
    we haven't flattened the curve yet,
    if our number of new cases per day,
    is more than the number of new recoveries per day.
    again, this is my simplistic way of looking at things.
    those with other opinions, kindly chime in.
    if we go back to the meaning of "flatten the curve" which is to keep the number of infections below the country's healthcare capacity so hospitals don't get overwhelmed



    i don't know... i haven't come across news recently where emergency rooms are full of patients with fever and cough and respiratory distress and dead bodies wrapped in blankets in corridors

    though yes i heard puno ang mga ICU
    Last edited by uls; May 6th, 2020 at 05:46 PM.

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    ang nangyari kasi para sa karamihan ung meaning ng "flatten the curve" naging "no more new cases"

    paalala lang po hindi yan ang goal ng flatten the curve

    nobody said flatten the curve will prevent new infections

    it's only to slow down the infections

    push it further into the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang nangyari kasi para sa karamihan ung meaning ng "flatten the curve" naging "no more new cases"
    "no more new cases" !!
    yeigh!
    that means,
    the virus has left the country!

    i prefer that to flattening any curve, any day!!!

    ok. somebody wake me up.

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    kung may abilidad lang tayo makita ang parallel universe kung saan hindi tayo nag-ECQ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung may abilidad lang tayo makita ang parallel universe kung saan hindi tayo nag-ECQ...
    ...at isang parallel universe where we practiced an honest-to-goodness ECQ...

    truthfully speaking,
    had we done so, the virus would have burned itself out by now.
    unfortunately, one look at our depressed areas, and we would have tsked-tsked and shaken our heads...
    Last edited by dr. d; May 6th, 2020 at 05:55 PM.

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    DOH COVID-19 CASE BULLETIN #053

    As of 4PM today, May 6, 2020, the Department of Health reports 320 new cases (PH9685-PH10004) of COVID-19. NCR with additional 179 new cases, Region 7 with an additional 98 new cases and 43 new cases from different Regions. The total number of cases in the country is now at 10,004.

    DOH also announces 98 new recoveries. This brings the total number of recoveries to 1,506.

    _

    Last edited by Verbl Kint; May 6th, 2020 at 06:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    DOH COVID-19 CASE BULLETIN #053

    As of 4PM today, May 6, 2020, the Department of Health reports 320 new cases (PH9685-PH10004) of COVID-19. NCR with additional 179 new cases, Region 7 with an additional 98 new cases and 43 new cases from different Regions. The total number of cases in the country is now at 10,004.

    DOH also announces 98 new recoveries. This brings the total number of recoveries to 1,506.

    _

    i wonder,
    where are the 10,004 - 1,506 - 658 = 7,840 cases that haven't recovered yet?
    how many are quarantined at home, how many are in the hospital, and how many are in the intensive care unit?
    Last edited by dr. d; May 6th, 2020 at 06:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ...at isang parallel universe where we practiced an honest-to-goodness ECQ...

    truthfully speaking,
    had we done so, the virus would have burned itself out by now.
    unfortunately, one look at our depressed areas, and we would have tsked-tsked and shaken our heads...
    the gov't went into the ECQ unprepared

    ideally you should take infected people from the community and put them facilities (home quarantine doesn't work in PH unlike HK, SK)

    pumasok tayo sa ECQ without enough testing capacity and without quarantine facilities

    during the ECQ nag build up ng testing capacity + quarantine facilities

    pero kulang pa

    now we're leaving ECQ with the virus still burning thru communities

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    I'm not good in numbers pero how can these experts say that we have flatten the curve if wala pa ata 5% ng population ang na ttest?

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    So sinasabi ninyo mali ang DOH?


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    there can be several interpretations to the same set of numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung may abilidad lang tayo makita ang parallel universe kung saan hindi tayo nag-ECQ...
    How about those countries na hindi na impose ng lockdowns like Sweden?

    They're first world though.

    Parang sa basketball lang yan statistic vs eye test.

    Since unreliable ang data, i'll go with eye test this time, as long as walang tsunami of patients going to the hospitals and wala tayong mga patay na nakikita sa kalsada, we're still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    I'm not good in numbers pero how can these experts say that we have flatten the curve if wala pa ata 5% ng population ang na ttest?
    ang basehan ng flatten the curve is if you were able to prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed

    hindi basehan ang ilan natest

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    How about those countries na hindi na impose ng lockdowns like Sweden?

    They're first world though.

    Parang sa basketball lang yan statistic vs eye test.

    Since unreliable ang data, i'll go with eye test this time, as long as walang tsunami of patients going to the hospitals and wala tayong mga patay na nakikita sa kalsada, we're still good.
    yup

    agree ako we're not doing too badly

    di naman tulad ng mga wuhan videos napanood natin... ung overwhelmed hospitals... people collapsing on the street

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