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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    How many nutcases are there that are willing to believe that 5G radiowaves caused the pandemic?

    5G and coronavirus: Thousands of conspiracy theorists gather in Facebook groups to plot 'silent' protests | The Independent
    madaming naniniwala dyan regardless of how unscientific. thats the thing about some conspiracy theories it does not have to be true, the goal is to create doubts.

    saka hndi na bago ganyang thinking. i know someone trabaho maglagay ng celll sites sa province. pinakamahirap daw yung kumuha ng permit sa barangay, takot kasi akala nila buong ka barrio nila mababaog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    China's numbers are screwed much like ours. I think "everybody" that posts or read this thread will agree on that.

    What is the real number? Now that's up to the real experts. Some here probably really have a good idea.

    The worldmeter numbers I see as just somehow a benchmark for how "other" countries are faring. Those "other" countries meaning not China nor the PI.

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    pero i think China held down their numbers intentionally coz they're image conscious

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    PH numbers are low due to undertesting which was limited by number of test kits and pcr labs (that's being fixed)

    hindi intentional ang situation sa Pinas

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pero i think China held down their numbers intentionally coz they're image conscious

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    PH numbers are low due to undertesting which was limited by number of test kits and pcr labs (that's being fixed)

    hindi intentional ang situation sa Pinas
    Yes but sa part ng Pinas somehow I doubt if it's really unintentional and just because we are not prepared for mass testing.

    It would seem to me that different LGU's have different ways of handling this kasi. Some like Iloilo and Marikina ba yun really pushed for mass testing. Even doing it way ahead of what the national government wants. Our province on the other hand it would seem prefer to believe that this is not that deadly at all with how they are acting. I mentioned the LGU because it would seem to me that the national government lacks the coordination with the local government and that the former really left them to fend for themselves, at least in the early part.

    That inaction and\or slow action for me is tantamount to incompetence which is one way of saying you're intentionally not doing something.

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    #8684
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    How many nutcases are there that are willing to believe that 5G radiowaves caused the pandemic?

    5G and coronavirus: Thousands of conspiracy theorists gather in Facebook groups to plot 'silent' protests | The Independent
    I think the simplest answer is that China has the lead in 5G technology, so it would have been Chinese contractors doing rollout of 5G equipment.

    Correlation between 5G rollout and coronavirus cases? Sure. But the tech isn't the cause, it's the technicians. ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Yes but sa part ng Pinas somehow I doubt if it's really unintentional and just because we are not prepared for mass testing.

    It would seem to me that different LGU's have different ways of handling this kasi. Some like Iloilo and Marikina ba yun really pushed for mass testing. Even doing it way ahead of what the national government wants. Our province on the other hand it would seem prefer to believe that this is not that deadly at all with how they are acting. I mentioned the LGU because it would seem to me that the national government lacks the coordination with the local government and that the former really left them to fend for themselves, at least in the early part.

    That inaction and\or slow action for me is tantamount to incompetence which is one way of saying you're intentionally not doing something.

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    definitely not intentional

    remember when DOH said they had only 2000 test kits

    our situation is undertesting not underreporting

    and yes it's incompetence not hidden agenda

    hindi pinaghandaan... dapat maaga palang nag order ng madami test kit
    Last edited by uls; April 9th, 2020 at 03:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    definitely not intentional

    remember when DOH said they had only 2000 test kits

    our situation is undertesting not underreporting
    CM-HO which is under the LGU'S have different data with hospitals. That for me is my basis that there is already a thin line between undertesting amd underreporting.

    The protocols laid out by the DOH is not even strictly followed by CHO's or MHO's. Those are intentional acts. Kaya I said LGU becasuntaht is different from the mandate of the national government and thus I cannot attribute the wrong numbers to DOH itself especially now that we have ample test kits.

    Though in the early part of March, our numbers are really low because of the factors mentioned.

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    para malinaw lang

    when i use the word underreporting it means you're reporting a lower number than what you found

    like you found 10 positives and report only 5

    to keep numbers low for some reason -- yan ang masama

    pero kung limitado talaga test kit mo and you have 20 people with symptoms and you only have 5 kits, wala ka magagawa di mo masisi ung hospital / LGU
    Last edited by uls; April 9th, 2020 at 03:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    para malinaw lang

    when i use the word underreporting it means you're reporting a lower number than what you found

    like you found 10 positives and report only 5

    to keep numbers low for some reason -- yan ang masama

    pero kung limitado talaga test kit mo and you have 20 people with symptoms and you only have 5 kits, wala ka magagawa di mo masisi ung hospital / LGU
    Complacency played a big part in the PH being underprepared. After the first three cases, laki ng time gap before the Deloitte and San Juan prayer room cases. Many were already saying what a good job the PH was doing, travel banning China, HK and Macau... Everything started to unravel after the San Juan Prayer room case, marami na pala infections.

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    DEpED Sec Briones tested positive...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Complacency played a big part in the PH being underprepared. After the first three cases, laki ng time gap before the Deloitte and San Juan prayer room cases. Many were already saying what a good job the PH was doing, travel banning China, HK and Macau... Everything started to unravel after the San Juan Prayer room case, marami na pala infections.
    yes the gov't was definitely complacent

    we were all watching videos of overwhelmed hospitals in wuhan and people collapsing on the street...

    napanood din naman siguro ng mga tao sa gobyerno pero di naghanda

    meron di-mangyarari-sa-atin-yan mentality

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    Barangay namin going around giving relief supplies to households including those living in condos...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Barangay namin going around giving relief supplies to households including those living in condos...


    Here in our buidling, the barangay (BST) only give relief to senior citizen, pwd, and solo parents. If not for some unit owners who complained, they will not include condos.

    Their reason on why condos are not included? They prioritize "DAW" those poor families.

    I think we live two streets away, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    wow thanks for the link i read every word of that

    what caught my attention isn't the numerous ongoing vaccine developments

    it's the pharma companies searching their libraries for compounds that may work against the virus

    kasi while the world is waiting for a vaccine we can use an effective antiviral muna so the world can get out of lockdown and go back to work

    like people can take a prophylactic antiviral para hindi magkasakit pag nahawaan ng SARSCOV2

    (like people take anti malaria drugs before going into malaria-prevalent regions)

    kailangan na umalis sa lockdown ang mundo sobra laki na ng economic damage
    Last edited by uls; April 9th, 2020 at 05:00 PM.

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    #8696
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post


    Dengvaxia Part 2 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Dengvaxia Part 2 ?
    not this time.
    "eyes wide open" + "kapit sa patalim" this time.

    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 9th, 2020 at 05:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Dengvaxia Part 2 ?
    Avigan is an antiviral not a vaccine po

    it's in tablet form

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yes the gov't was definitely complacent

    we were all watching videos of overwhelmed hospitals in wuhan and people collapsing on the street...

    napanood din naman siguro ng mga tao sa gobyerno pero di naghanda

    meron di-mangyarari-sa-atin-yan mentality
    Our chief doctor was too busy trying to be a diplomat and politician instead of practicing his profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Avigan is an antiviral not a vaccine po

    it's in tablet form

    Just being Devil's advocate. Maybe they want to test it out and gather data before they use it on their own citizens.

    But like doc said, it's not like those countries have a choice.

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