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    #10621
    the bottom line is there are still a lot of infected people out there walking around and don't know they're infected

    others probably have flu-like symptoms but are treating themselves at home with OTC meds / calamansi juice / salabat

    if the government can test those tataas ang confirmed cases no doubt about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    When you see it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Thats my point, its hard to make anything out of the graph. Them putting that "trendline" is useless at best and ridiculous at worst. Imagine they are reckoning their interpretation from the day before. No wonder the the COVID prediction AI removed the Philippines due to unreliable data.

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    Sabi mo "when you see it ' now it's" hard to make anything out of the graph". So basically nothing to see?

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    #10623
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Sabi mo "when you see it ' now it's" hard to make anything out of the graph". So basically nothing to see?

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    The "trendline" caption and the trendline they drew on the bar graph, when there really is no trend to see.

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    #10625
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    That comment was not necessary

    I was going to ask the same question too, naunahan lang ako ni shadow. So what does that graph tell us? Only thing I can tell is they have not flattened the curve
    Na flatten naman sa less than 300 infections per day. Pwede na yan.


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    #10626
    that is true of many or most viruses.

    when they do seemingly get it twice, the question is usually, "is this a new infection, or is this more likely the same infection that did not completely leave?"

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    #10627
    School year to open starting August 24 as per DepEd both for physical and online classes.

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    #10628
    Mass testing in Valenzuela... Halos 9% of those tested came back positive.

    Last edited by Monseratto; May 5th, 2020 at 01:06 PM.

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    #10631
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    The "trendline" caption and the trendline they drew on the bar graph, when there really is no trend to see.
    lahat na yata ng ahensya ng gobyerno natin galing kay duterte LOL

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    #10632
    kung ganun doctors and nurses who got infected and recovered can go back to work and no longer need to wear PPEs

    or anyone out there who got infected and recovered no longer have anything to worry about

    -

    may nabasa ako konti lang daw antibodies na-produce ng katawan ng mga nag recover

    is the immunity durable?

    gaano katagal?

    months? years?

    lots of unknowns
    Last edited by uls; May 5th, 2020 at 01:53 PM.

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    i am skeptical of those South Korean scientists

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

    It had been over a month since Mirabai Nicholson-McKellar was infected with the coronavirus, and the 35-year-old filmmaker thought she was on her way to recovery. Then the shortness of breath came back, followed by chest pains.

    A visit to the emergency room and a second test for Covid-19 gave another positive result. Just three days earlier, she’d been cleared by health authorities in Australia’s New South Wales state, and was allowed to end her home quarantine after going 72 hours without symptoms.

    “When is this going to end? I think about that constantly,” she said of the twists and turns in her health. “Am I still contagious? How do I know if I’m not contagious?"

    Her experience adds to a growing number of reports of patients appearing to have a reactivation of symptoms, testing positive again, or even potentially being reinfected. Such incidents don’t align with the generally accepted understanding of how virus infections work and spread.
    still trying to figure things out

    “Everyone’s trying to figure this out,” said Yvonne Maldonado, an infectious diseases professor at Stanford Medical School. “What happens when people have been sick and infected -- are we going to consider them immune and, therefore, not susceptible at all? Or are they immune and serve as potential points of infection for other people?”

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    #10634
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung ganun doctors and nurses who got infected and recovered can go back to work and no longer need to wear PPEs

    or anyone out there who got infected and recovered no longer have anything to worry about

    -

    may nabasa ako konti lang daw antibodies na-produce ng katawan ng mga nag recover

    is the immunity durable?

    gaano katagal?

    months? years?

    lots of unknowns
    my wild guess is,
    they still should.
    they may have recovered, but they might still be shedding the virus and potentially still be capable of infecting others.
    also, there's the psychological impact of talking to someone not wearing mask...

    this virus is an entirely new disease.
    we have not yet mapped out its nuances.
    better safe than sorry, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    my wild guess is,
    they still should.
    they may have recovered, but they might still be shedding the virus and potentially still be capable of infecting others.
    also, there's the psychological impact of talking to someone not wearing mask...

    this virus is an entirely new disease.
    we have not yet mapped out its nuances.
    better safe than sorry, folks.
    yes kaya tama lang nag isolate muna si Senator Angara

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    #10636
    Singapore death rate is only at 0.1% with over 18,000 confirmed cases. Are singaporeans mostly youngster? or do they have a much effective treatment especially for severe and critical cases?

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    Sa FB ko marami posts na takot na baka pag lift bigla mag spike yung cases, dapat may game plan na ang government kung papano i manage yung pag lift ng ECQ

    ECQ extension in NCR eyed. Infections in Metro Manila still rising, lockdown effect under review
    posted May 05, 2020 at 02:10 am
    by Vito Barcelo and Joel E. Zurbano, Willie Casas

    Malacañang on Monday said the enhanced community quarantine (ECQ) in the National Capital Region (NCR) could be extended after the May 15 deadline as the number of coronavirus disease (COVID 19) cases continues to rise in Metro Manila.

    Presidential spokesperson Harry Roque made this observation in a televised press briefing, saying science would be the key factor for the President to decide whether to extend the ECQ in Metro Manila or not.

    However, Roque said it is still too early to say whether the lockdown should be extended since it is only four days after the general community quarantine (GCQ) was declared in some parts of Luzon.

    “We still have to see any developments. There are still many people being infected,” he said.

    He said the Inter-Agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases (IATF) is still studying how effective the ECQ has been in containing the spread of COVID-19.

    Luzon was placed on lockdown from March 15 until April 15 but the ECQ was extended to May 1 to control the spread of COVID-19.

    Before the May 1 deadline, Duterte announced another extension of ECQ in high-risk areas, including NCR, Central Luzon, Calabarzon, Cebu, and Davao while downgrading the ECQ to GCQ in areas with no reports on COVID 19 infections.

    Meanwhile, the Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG) said local government units (LGUs) may impose ECQs in smaller areas such as towns or barangays, but need the concurrence of their regional inter-agency task force on COVID-19.

    On Monday, the NCR Police Office deployed 294 more policemen to help enforcers implement the ECQ in Metro Manila.
    NCRPO chief Maj. Gen. Debold Sinas said the 294 unformed police personnel are members of the National Standby Support Force (NSSF) who are prepared to augment the NCRPO's mobile force battalion.

    "These men will assist our deployment of personnel from the District Mobile Force Battalion to different quarantine control points regionwide. Our men have been deployed for 48 days straight already. We need to replace them and give them some rest," Sinas said.

    Sinas said more security forces in Metro Manila would be deployed following the government's decision to extend the enhanced community quarantine in the Metro Manila and other high-risk areas until May 15.

    He added that he plans to meet with the Army and the Philippine National Police's Special Action Force to ask for assistance in the additional deployment of security forces.

    “As always, we plead cooperation from the people of the Metro to please stay at home to make our common sacrifices worthwhile,” Sinas said.

    On Sunday, 250 SAF police personnel were deployed in Tondo, Manila after Mayor Francisco Domagoso placed the entire District 1 under "hard lockdown."

    But former Anakpawis party-list representative Ariel Casilao on Monday criticized the “overkill implementation” of the 48-hour hard lockdown in Tondo, Manila, where 1,000 policemen and 250 PNP SAF commandos were deployed to help carry out stricter lockdown measures.
    The 48-hour lockdown in Tondo’s District 1, started Monday at 5 a.m. and will last until 5 a.m. Tuesday. Under the hard lockdown, residents of Tondo 1 District will not be allowed to leave their houses except those who are listed as authorized persons outside residence.

    The local government is expected to conduct rapid testing for COVID-19 similar to what was done in Sampaloc during its 48-hour lockdown from April 23 to 25.

    The measure was imposed by Domagoso to prevent the further spread of COVID-19 and allow for disease surveillance, verification, and rapid risk assessment. Manila’s District I is one of the densely-populated areas in the city and home to many urban poor communities including Baseco, Parola Compound, Isla Puting Bato, Delpan, Vitas, and houses buildings in the former Smokey Mountain dumpsite.

    "We completely understand the need for mass testing. The government should have started COVID mass testing weeks ago, but the deployment of 1,200 fully-armed police and special forces to secure Tondo is just too much and overkill," Casilao said.
    The ongoing hard lockdown already resulted in the apprehension of more than 100 quarantine violators, mostly poor people who went out of their cramped homes.

    Instead of speeding up the distribution of the social amelioration program or SAP, the government went on an arresting spree, Casilao said.

    He added that poor people need speedy distribution of relief goods and financial aid.

    “We can’t make the people stay inside their respective homes if they are hungry. The hard lockdown in fact is worsening their suffering. It further limits not only their movement but also restrains them from conducting any economic work that could help them at this time when their food stocks already ran out and relief goods from the barangay are lacking,” the lawmaker said.

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    #10638
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Singapore death rate is only at 0.1% with over 18,000 confirmed cases. Are singaporeans mostly youngster? or do they have a much effective treatment especially for severe and critical cases?
    case fatality rate naturally falls when you do a lot of testing coz you'll find a lot of cases that are either asymptomatic or mild (so they aren't likely to die)

    if your testing criteria is limited only to those who have symptoms bad enough to seek help (like those who end up in hospital) those are more likely to die kaya case fatality rate is high

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    Malacañang on Monday said the enhanced community quarantine (ECQ) in the National Capital Region (NCR) could be extended after the May 15 deadline as the number of coronavirus disease (COVID 19) cases continues to rise in Metro Manila.
    ay juice ko of course cases continue to rise coz they are mass testing

    that's what the gov't wants diba?

    gusto nila mag mass testing tapos ma-alarma sila dumadami ang kaso

    madami na nga may virus kalat na nga so the more they test the more they'll catch

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