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    #10881
    The next best thing for the government has to do is get processing 24/7 in shifts... Train more staff .


    Contradicting and clumsy information from DOH complicates analysis of COVID situation | ABS-CBN News


    Two things should be considered here:

    (1) These three parameters do not reflect real-time data. On the average, deaths and recoveries take an average of a week before they are publicly announced. For recoveries, almost 50 percent are announced after eight days or more. For deaths, almost 40 percent are announced after eight days or more as well.

    (2) Depending on where testing is done, RT-PCR test results take an average of one to two days to process. Barring any delays, all tests done should ideally be released by at least 48 hours (the earlier the better). However, the test results released from government facilities range from two to 14 days, probably due to an overwhelming number of tests being conducted when compared to private hospitals where fewer number of tests done.
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 8th, 2020 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The next best thing for the government has to do is get processing 24/7 in shifts... Train more staff .


    Contradicting and clumsy information from DOH complicates analysis of COVID situation | ABS-CBN News


    Two things should be considered here:

    (1) These three parameters do not reflect real-time data. On the average, deaths and recoveries take an average of a week before they are publicly announced. For recoveries, almost 50 percent are announced after eight days or more. For deaths, almost 40 percent are announced after eight days or more as well.

    (2) Depending on where testing is done, RT-PCR test results take an average of one to two days to process. Barring any delays, all tests done should ideally be released by at least 48 hours (the earlier the better). However, the test results released from government facilities range from two to 14 days, probably due to an overwhelming number of tests being conducted when compared to private hospitals where fewer number of tests done.
    i agree.
    it would appear to me, that DOH did not plan well for this aspect of information-gathering.

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    #10883
    Need to replace incompetent duque[emoji16]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    What is the need for an extension when nobody will have a businees or anything to go back... Many middle class will be begging for food by then.
    there will be no f#cking end to the lockdown if they keep looking at the number of new confirmed cases everyday

    gusto nila mag mass testing tapos ma-alarma sila

    kung ung daily confirmed cases ang basehan nila aabot tayo ng ber months naka lockdown parin

    by that time there won't be an economy left to reopen

    ano gusto nila makita para ma-lift ung lockdown?

    double digit or single digit or zero new cases?

    baka 4Q na ma-lift ung lockdown
    Last edited by uls; May 8th, 2020 at 10:48 AM.

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    #10885
    we're not gonna see zero new cases like HK and SK in the near future

    no effin way

    coz we didn't do what HK and SK did early in the pandemic

    now we're trying to play catch up with "massive testing"?

    i'm not saying it's too late but the horses have let the effin barn

    those 10,000 confirmed cases... tip of the iceberg

    baka 10% lang yan

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    I see a lot of people in the supermarket wearing "half" mask because they cover their mouth but not the nose they might have diffuculty in breathing after a long walk. Is it safe? especially for us wearing full mask when we get near them or vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    we're not gonna see zero new cases like HK and SK in the near future

    no effin way

    coz we didn't do what HK and SK did early in the pandemic

    now we're trying to play catch up with "massive testing"?

    i'm not saying it's too late but the horses have let the effin barn

    those 10,000 confirmed cases... tip of the iceberg

    baka 10% lang yan
    How's it like nowadays for HK subways is it still crowded or do they apply social distancing limiting passengers just like what we are about to do with our train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    How's it like nowadays for HK subways is it still crowded or do they apply social distancing limiting passengers just like what we are about to do with our train.
    i don't know.
    but i'm already missing the regular profession-excused trips to HK and SG...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I see a lot of people in the supermarket wearing "half" mask because they cover their mouth but not the nose they might have diffuculty in breathing after a long walk. Is it safe? especially for us wearing full mask when we get near them or vice versa.
    defeats the purpose of wearing a mask

    half the purpose

    pag nag hatsing derecho sa air ang droplets galing sa ilong

    ung galing sa bibig lang ang maharang ng mask

    -

    ung exposed nose ma-inhale nila ang micro-droplets suspended in the air
    Last edited by uls; May 8th, 2020 at 12:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I see a lot of people in the supermarket wearing "half" mask because they cover their mouth but not the nose they might have diffuculty in breathing after a long walk. Is it safe? especially for us wearing full mask when we get near them or vice versa.
    Its suppose to help lessen ejection of droplets...so unless they sneeze at you its ok, i would think. You'd need a face shield to help prevent you getting droplets...however. Plus always make it a habit to stop touching your face, and always try to wash your hands (bring hand sanitizers), and take a bath if returning from having been outside the house like a visit to the drugstore or grocery. (Complete dress change)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I see a lot of people in the supermarket wearing "half" mask because they cover their mouth but not the nose they might have diffuculty in breathing after a long walk. Is it safe? especially for us wearing full mask when we get near them or vice versa.
    i will be the first to admit, "it's uncomfortable, wearing the mask the correct way".
    but we have to do it. no ifs, no baths.

    wekest link and all that.

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    #10892
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    that's just gene ramos, speaking about his hospital.
    i'd like to hear from the government hospitals.
    i ask, because i know not.

    it's always better to hear from the various sides.
    OT: You know Dr Ramos also?!? I won't be surprised if you know Dr Cutie and my Endo and derma etc hahaha.

    Ano na ba nangyari sa mass testing? Backlog na nga, wala pa rin mass testing. Ang galing ng Valenzuela and Pasig. It seems like nakasalalay na kung gaano kaefficient mga LGU

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    Kumusta ang Pinas?

    WHICH COUNTRIES DO BEST IN BEATING COVID-19?

    SOME ARE WINNING - SOME ARE NOT?

    Alam na kung saan ang Pinas dyan.


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    #10894
    what the gov't is doing is mass swabbing

    they're putting up swabbing booths everywhere

    pero those thousands of specimens run into the PCR lab bottleneck

    (how many pcr labs do we have? around 20?)

    and what do they do with those people they swab?

    hold them in quarantine centers or send them home?

    pag labas ng result after +/- 1 week nalaman positive pala so they go look for that person

    by that time ilan na nahawa niya

    so mag contract trace...

    this is never gonna end
    Last edited by uls; May 8th, 2020 at 01:17 PM.

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    #10895
    speaking of South Korea

    forget the zero cases

    1 infected person went to 2 convenience stores, 5 bars / nightclubs

    they gotta trace hundreds of people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I see a lot of people in the supermarket wearing "half" mask because they cover their mouth but not the nose they might have diffuculty in breathing after a long walk. Is it safe? especially for us wearing full mask when we get near them or vice versa.
    Huwag nalang sila mag mask. Theybshould just give them to people who know how to use it.

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    #10897
    Goodbye bj

    Coronavirus found in men's semen

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    #10898
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I see a lot of people in the supermarket wearing "half" mask because they cover their mouth but not the nose they might have diffuculty in breathing after a long walk. Is it safe? especially for us wearing full mask when we get near them or vice versa.
    Breathing through your nose alone spreads the virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Goodbye bj

    Coronavirus found in men's semen

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    so, what are the intervals recommended for serial collection and analysis?
    and how is the sample obtained? needle aspiration ba?
    ouch!
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Goodbye bj

    Coronavirus found in men's semen

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    Should men now ejaculate more often to flash out the virus?
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