Nissan Frontier Navara [continued]

[shaunmarsl]

Hi sirs. Has anyone experienced continuous blinking of the airbag light for their unit? Btw mine is a 2008 4x2.

Mine started just before the holy week break. I noticed it while parked on the upper floors of GT tower, my front wheels slightly bumped the dividers of the ramp going up, barely noticed that I was too close to that side.

Had it diagnosed via computer by Nissan in our province and was told that driver airbag module needs to be replaced. Cost is around 56k, so I decided not to proceed with the repairs. The mechanic and service advisor told me that I was the third case they had with a similar problem and the other two decided not to have their airbags replaced.

I also searched the net if there's a way to stop the blinking and found one by turning the key on and off several times. It worked for just a day and the blinking returned.

Would like to know if there are other ways I could stop the blinking apart from replacement of the airbag module.

Thanks.




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[vvti2.0]

Yes there is another solution, open the airbag module, download the eeprom data, then edit or upload a new eeprom data without the crash content.

Kapag nag trigger or false trigger kasi ang airbag mo, yung airbag module mo mag record yan sa memory nya ng crash data, so dapat i-reprogram yung eeprom, mura lang yan, mga 2.5k solve na yan.

[shaunmarsl]

Thanks Sir vvti 2.0. Btw is there a shop where you can recommend to have this done?


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[12vdc]

^ Have you tried the airbag reset procedure. Its the simpliest approach before doing the memory reflashing. Guide is all over the net but here's the original one from clubrontier. Pesky Airbag light!! - Nissan Frontier Forum I think it works for all D40's - Thais Spain, US. Petrol Diesel, V6.

It will help if you could read the specific error code. Problem could be just a loose wire or connection in the clockspring airbag controller sensing an open circuit. How to read the code if you dont have OBD2 reader is also described in the link.

edit. post ko na rin for everybody's reference:

RESET METHOD:

If you have the airbag light blinking here is how to reset it:

1. Turn the key from off to on.

2. Watch the airbag light closely. It will stay on for a few secs. and then as soon as it blinks off (the start of the flashing), turn the key off instantly.

3. Count to 5 (1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi . . . .)

4. Repeat steps 1-3 two more times until you have done the cycle three times.

5. Now turn the key on and watch the light. It will start blinking in a different, slower manner. This is diagnostic mode. You can watch this for a little while, no hurry.

6. Now turn the key off again, Count to 5 like in step 3 again, and turn back on. If the procedure worked, the airbag light will not be flashing.

If it does not work the first time, just repeat the steps again.

Checking Airbag Codes!

If your airbag light flashes after 7 secs, then you need to run the airbag diagnostic codes, if your airbag light does not shut off after 7 secs then the airbag ECM needs to be replaced. To run the codes you must enter the first diagnostic mode, from there you can read the number of light flashed to see what the problem is. The second diagnostic mode is meant to show what codes have been cleared, and is not useful for diagnosing problem.

There are 3 modes for the airbag ECM diagnostic unit:
User (Normal)
Present (Diagnostic Mode 1)
Initial (Diagnostic Mode 2)


User (Normal):
This is the mode your car is in when it is not in diagnostic mode, it needs to be left in this mode for proper use of the SRS system, be sure to return the ECM to this mode after completing diagnostics.
Present (Diagnostic Mode 1):
This mode will display the codes causing the error in the SRS system, the number of short flashes of the airbag light corresponds to the error code.
Initial (Diagnostic Mode 2):
This mode is only useful to see what codes have been cleared, it will also show what code is causing the problem.

Most people, if ever, will only need to enter mode 1, follow the instructions below, simply ignoring the mode 2 instructions.

To enter Diagnostic Mode 1 you will need to activate the drivers side door switch(located in the door jamb near the latch striker) at least 5 times within 7 seconds after the ignition is turn to on.

To enter Diagnostic Mode 2 you will need to turn the key off then back to on, then activate the drivers side door switch once AFTER the ignition has been turned on for 7 secs.

To exit Diagnostic Mode 2 you will need to turn the key off then back to on, then activate the drivers side door switch once AFTER the ignition has been turned on for 7 secs.

To exit Diagnostic Mode 1 you will need to turn the key off then back to on, then activate the drivers side door switch(located in the door jamb near the latch striker) at least 5 times within 7 seconds after the ignition is turn to on.

Now for a visualadaptation from the FSM)

Before switching between the modes shown above remember to turn the key off then on, otherwise the system cannot accept the door switch inputs.

After switching to mode 1 the "Airbag" light will flash once long, indicating the code series is about to start, the following number of short flashes is the number of the code causing the error in the SRS system. If the airbag light flashes on for 2 secs and off for 3 secs then that indicates no problem, or an intermittent problem.

1- Safing Sensor circuit is out of order.
2- Driver's air bag module circuit is out of order.
3- Tunnel sensor circuit is out of order.
4- Right crash zone sensor circuit is out of order.
5- Left crash zone sensor circuit is out of order.
6- Center crash zone sensor circuit is out of order.
7- Diagnosis unit is out of order.
8- Front Passenger air bag module circuit is out of order.
9- More than 2 parts of the SRS system are out of order.

[12vdc]

do your navaras have a cabin filter? my 08 model does not have a filter....

pwede ba magpa kabit nito?

Parang may nakapagkabit na sa previous pages. It will require cutting since the evap housing doesnt have the removable cover.

[shaunmarsl]

Thanks sir 12vdc, appreciate your inputs very much. I have actually tried the reset mode. Worked for a couple of hours but blinking returned again.

I haven't tried the procedure for checking error codes, will try it at soonest possible time. I however have it diagnosed in Nissan Bataan and all they have told me is that based on computer reading airbag module needs to be replaced.


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[12vdc]

^ I would get a printout of consult2 see the specific code. If it does confirm airbag prob, i guess someone could double check clocksprings are not open else the reflashing as described by sir vvti2 should be the next route.

[12vdc]

Hehe.. Still OK but not satisfied. My SS mesh 100 mod is still sitting around, i'L update soon kapag sinipag.

The largest OCC now have mesh 100ss. Lets see if coalescing will get any better.

[Leo_Arz]

Saan ba mura na Nissan parts?? Tia


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[12vdc]

Replacement parts?

Nisman
Nisparts
Youngbros
Meron pa 2 sa Banawe & Pasay, nalimot ko lang name, pero puro nissan parts din.
Kung Orig parts, hindi nagkakalayo presyo sa casa since sa planta din nila kinukuha. Minsan mas mura ang old stock na nasa casa.

Search nlang contact, etc..

[Leo_Arz]

Replacement parts?

Nisman
Nisparts
Youngbros
Meron pa 2 sa Banawe & Pasay, nalimot ko lang name, pero puro nissan parts din.
Kung Orig parts, hindi nagkakalayo presyo sa casa since sa planta din nila kinukuha. Minsan mas mura ang old stock na nasa casa.

Search nlang contact, etc..

Mga flywheel at clutch at release bearing, ma tangal lang yung vat at kahit konti discount pued na cguro sa oe. Suerte cguro Kung me replacement. 100k kc estimate casa including labor at vat. Ayaw pa discount.


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[12vdc]

From parts catalog, you should be looking for these numbers..

12310-EB30A - Flywheel Assy
30100-JS10A - Disc Assy Clutch
30210-JS10B - Cover Assy clutch mid
30210-JS10C - Cover Assy clutch
30502-69F10 - Bearing Clutch Release
30501-22104 - Sleeve Clutch Release

Try to compare prices and if these pn# are accurate. NSK and Koyo makes OEM bearings for Nissan, might want also crossing to further cut cost.

2010 yata ako last nagtanong when my clutch was acting up, pero wala pa sila replacement puro orig and cost was around P60k. Baka now meron na replacement, madami na rin ako nakikita sa fleebay at china sourced parts. Siguro P20k landed cost nun, clutch/flywheel kit na.

[Leo_Arz]

Sir 12vdc D40 rin ba navara mo sa akin 2010 model? Saan ka nag pa ayos sa trusted mechanic? Very helpfull yung info nyo maraming salamat. Sa casa d nila ibigay part nos alam na daw sa banawe, me sabi sakin convert nalng sa single flywheel kaso me nabasa ako na malakas ang vibrate at maingay yung gear. Sakit sa ulo


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[12vdc]

Haha. Sakit ba sa ulo, baka minalas lang. Nagpa second opinion ka na, confirmed malaki play ng flywheel?

2008 model sakin 3rd batch release D40 naka dual mess flywheel din. 120+k on the clock without major dramas(knock on wood). Hindi ko lang masyado ginagamit now at meron akong insurance claim na ipaayos(accident body damage 2nd time na). Yung clutch glitch ko was a false alarm, it was just the pedal and hydraulics that i fixed. Wala akong trusted mech, kung may pinapagawa man i supervise the job Usually steering alignment lang at aircon cleaning, other than those i do all maintenance and troubleshooting in my cars except if under warrantey.

If im in your shoes, prolly id get the parts(single mass route) then pakabit. Kung sanay ka sa trucks, pckups, vans, i dont think the vibration would be an issue at all. For me, I'd trade reliability over comfort.. Of course you can let casa do all of these for you for a price and get covered with warrantey over workmanship. idk tho if they will cover the parts, but usually not since conversion ng flywheel at consumable parts ang clutch.

[rpfronty]

sirs,

saan ba ok magpa service ng navara a/c? ok ba sa mga frigid zone shops or denso ?

[Leo_Arz]

Haha. Sakit ba sa ulo, baka minalas lang. Nagpa second opinion ka na, confirmed malaki play ng flywheel?

2008 model sakin 3rd batch release D40 naka dual mess flywheel din. 120+k on the clock without major dramas(knock on wood). Hindi ko lang masyado ginagamit now at meron akong insurance claim na ipaayos(accident body damage 2nd time na). Yung clutch glitch ko was a false alarm, it was just the pedal and hydraulics that i fixed. Wala akong trusted mech, kung may pinapagawa man i supervise the job Usually steering alignment lang at aircon cleaning, other than those i do all maintenance and troubleshooting in my cars except if under warrantey.

If im in your shoes, prolly id get the parts(single mass route) then pakabit. Kung sanay ka sa trucks, pckups, vans, i dont think the vibration would be an issue at all. For me, I'd trade reliability over comfort.. Of course you can let casa do all of these for you for a price and get covered with warrantey over workmanship. idk tho if they will cover the parts, but usually not since conversion ng flywheel at consumable parts ang clutch.

Sir 12vdc, di lang 2nd opinion ginawa ko naka 4th opinion pa ako, 3 na nissan casa at 1 na trusted mechanic ng tropa… yung 2 nissan casa test drive lang clutch disc/cover, flywheel at bearing, yung isa na nissan casa sabi me kilala ako test drive at lifter pa at nag consult pa they ended up mga clutch at bearing at makita daw yun pag binaba transmission dun daw malaman kung me wear na flywheel. Ibooked ko na daw para ma order nila parts including flywheel pero kung ok naman yung flywheel di mga clutch lang bayaran ko…palagay ko me tama na yung flywheel kasi doing some research yun ang cause ng vibration…….yung trusted mechanic diagnose clutch ang bearing but nung tapak fuel pedal at rev cya sabi nya me delay yung engine, napa isip lalo ako bka aside dito me kadugtong pa???
Nag isip ko benta as is where is, pero mabargain eh o trade in, wala kasi ako sa budget para magpalit….. so isip again????? Kanina napadaan ako sa ford maganda yung bago ranger parang navara inalok ako test drive me unit daw…. Di test drive ako matic WOW lupet ang ganda sa loob pati hitech in short… gusto ko na to hehehe pero ive notice medyo gagalitin mo yung makina para umarangkada parang pajero na fieldmaster ewan ko lang pero sa aking puede na isama ko na pati yung ahente!!! Hehehe
One more thing that im thinking is if I bought all the parts then fix it in let say speedyfix walang warranty di ba? Not like if get it done in nissan casa cguro naman me warranty..ill ask the casa pero mahal… I card ko cguro para me points ang redeem natin sir tag 2-3 bottles nalng tayo sir 12vdc hehehe

[glenn manikis]

sirs,

saan ba ok magpa service ng navara a/c? ok ba sa mga frigid zone shops or denso ?

sir try nyo sa EDS car aircon search nyo nalang dito ang no... dun kami nag papa service ni doc otep...

magaling sila gumawa dun... bangitin mo din taga tsikot ka...

[12vdc]

Leo_Arz;2346389

Malayo layo mararating natin sa 100k points na yan sir kaya ikaskas mo na..haha After maayos, gamitin mo muna for 1 week then trade in na yan sa 3.2WT. Huwag yung ZSD 2.2, mas anemic yun sa 2.5 YDDTI. Kung mag papalit, doon na sa more cubes.

Seriously, from your predicament at kung ayaw mo sumugal you are better of with casa then replace the whole kit para may peace of mind. From my experience with casa, they dont warrant parts, only workmanship. Kung meron man, 3months na siguro pinakamatagal and in that 3months those parts would definitely not fail. Same with outside casa shops, labor lang ang may warranty.

Balitaan mo kami sir kung ano naging problema. Im eager to see what those failing parts looks like and at least to alert other NAv owners what to look out.

[Leo_Arz]

I'll let you know sir then post some pics here. Hopefully Kung magkasundo sa price kahit masakit
Baka ma trade in. Di ako familiar sa engine ng new ranger pero eyeing sa 4x2 xlt matic na hehe we'll see pag di ukol ipa ayos ko nalang then use it for a year or 2 maybe??nakaphobia kc Kung kelan bago sasakyan at 4years plang ganun agad nangyari. Dati kc puro 2nd hand cars lng bili ko, 3 klase pa na auto na ginamit ko for 2-3years eh ni bearing wala ko palit puro tie rod, bushing at shock abs lng.


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[Leo_Arz]

[QUOTE=12vdc;2346273]From parts catalog, you should be looking for these numbers..

12310-EB30A - Flywheel Assy
30100-JS10A - Disc Assy Clutch
30210-JS10B - Cover Assy clutch mid
30210-JS10C - Cover Assy clutch
30502-69F10 - Bearing Clutch Release
30501-22104 - Sleeve Clutch Release

Sir 12vdc me nakita ko mga parts mas mura nasa P58k, maselan ba yun Kung mechanic ng tropa ko o sa speedy fix ko pagawa? Ano best sa tingin nyo sir? Wala naman cguro back job??




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