Remote bypass oil filtration

[dvldoc]

The Fleetguard version is LF3564, At least you can get them there.

[locoroco777]

Wow! 540? thats really cheap....we get the OEM for 1k++...I think I'd be using that on my next oil change...the only question now is that if the filter being sold here is authentic...

[cocoy]

where are the shops that sell these quality filters located?

[Wh1stl3r]

Great thread. Learning a lot here. Thanks dvldoc. Maybe you could start a thread about engine oil as well?

[dvldoc]

Since you can find these there now, Here's a few part numbers for you guys for your rides.

BT223, B7243, LF3335 fit all Fortuner, innova, and Hilux. gas or diesel or any Vic C-111 or Union C-171 or C-172

LF4056, B2720 Fit Nissan Elgrand, 2.0 largo 2.0 turbo diesels, Nissan Vanette CD20ETI, LD20T, CD20T engines, QD32ETI, TD27TI. Or any vehicle that uses VIC 226.


LF551A, LF3314, LF689, LF3487(UPGRADE SYNTHETIC MEDIA FILTER)
Wil fite all 2.5TD, Rangers/Everest/Mazda Freidee/Ford Feda basically all WLT 2.5 turbo diesel engines. Or any vehicle that takes a VIC 209 or Union C-221 also VIC-115 and Union C-151.

Also fits all
D21 TD27 6/92-2/97
D22 TD27 2.7L 3/97-01
D22 QD32 3.2L 3/97-01
D22 3.0TD 2002
GQ TD42 11/87-8/89 and on, Turbo and non turbo engines.
HILUX 2.4D, HIACE2.5D 96-, POWERVAN 2.4 97

Ford sports Track

Ford V-8's till 2005


B163, B34, LF3604 (Not pictured because I don't feel like moving to big boxes of filters to get to them)sorry.

Fits Navara YD25DDTi will also work on all the ones for the Row with LF551A,LF3314,LF3487, LF689

Fortuner, Hilux, Innova, D4D and 2.7 will fit these.

I pretty much databased all the high end filters with all the cars there and stocked up on them for a hobby gig when I retire from the Navy, Get bored with the water injection sometimes. lol.



Here is my bypass filter set up minus the filter adapter which I am still waiting on but this is what it looks like. Except i am not using the barbed fittings but Push lock fittings with 8AN ends. I don't care for barbs and hose clamps that much.



This is my Bypass system set up. I am using a Full flow Luberfiner imperial XL full sythetic media filter. With a Fleetguard LF3947 (stratopore) full sythetic 5 lay media (best filter money can buy). Again you can't go to your local parts store for these filters.

Specs
The LFP780XL is a 5 micron * 50% and a 20 micron * 98.67% filters 2 microns absolute at 36%.

The LF3947 30 Micron at 99% and a 10 Micron at 85% efficient 5 microns 78% efficient on the first pass. 2 microns absolute.

I was going to use the LF3487 which is the sythetic media as well but the microglass which is the same thing as Amsiol, The Statapore has 5 different layers. You can also see the size difference these are about 7 inches tall. And will be good for 40000KLM oil changes with changing the full flow every 20000klm and the Bypass at 40000KLM.

I also am adding a Isspro oil pressure gauge and Nordskog oil temp gauge to keep a eye on everything using a sandwich adapter on the bypass filter.



You can see the Amsoil and the Fleetguard microglass media is basically the same. Both the filters I am using exceed the Amsoil in filtration ability but not by much.





Interesting video on bypass systems.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKBs6KGcgwI"]YouTube - Amsoil Bypass Filters[/ame]

[dagol]

Hindi advisable ang dual filter sa mga van ninyo dahil konti lang ang laman na langis sa crankcase ng makina na di pwedeng patagalin ng 40k kms kahit gumamit pa ng fully syn.Para lang sa trak at bus yan kasi maraming kilometro ang tinatakbo kadalasan ng mga ito kaya maraming langis ang nasa crankcase para mapahaba ang drain intervals ng langis.Yan ang nasa isip ng mga engine manufacturers kaya mas maraming langis at may dual filters ang mga malalaking diesel engines.Alangan namang kada 10k kms ay change oil na sila. Pwede nyong pahabain ang change oil nyo kung imomodify nyo ang crankcase ng makina para malagyan ng mas maraming langis at kabitan nyo ng dual filter na yan.I´m not against this dual filter but its not logical to use it with your vans without crankcase modification to raise the ratio of oil to engine displacement.

[dvldoc]

Hindi advisable ang dual filter sa mga van ninyo dahil konti lang ang laman na langis sa crankcase ng makina na di pwedeng patagalin ng 40k kms kahit gumamit pa ng fully syn.Para lang sa trak at bus yan kasi maraming kilometro ang tinatakbo kadalasan ng mga ito kaya maraming langis ang nasa crankcase para mapahaba ang drain intervals ng langis.Yan ang nasa isip ng mga engine manufacturers kaya mas maraming langis at may dual filters ang mga malalaking diesel engines.Alangan namang kada 10k kms ay change oil na sila. Pwede nyong pahabain ang change oil nyo kung imomodify nyo ang crankcase ng makina para malagyan ng mas maraming langis at kabitan nyo ng dual filter na yan.I´m not against this dual filter but its not logical to use it with your vans without crankcase modification to raise the ratio of oil to engine displacement.

I really don't speak Tagalog but I will try to reply.

The extended oil change intervals does not come from the extra oil capacity, In my case it's only about 2 liters more total, the stock filter is no longer in place with this system. And frankly it's very common to have these set up's on diesel engines.

Even the none synthetic fiber Fleetguard filters hold 4 to 5 times more debri without become clogged vs a standard filter. This is a giant advantage and also give you extended oil life. A basic Fleetguard is good for a easy 10000 klm to 15000 klm on good old dyno oil before they need to be replaced and you will still have good engine oil analysis.

No crackcase modification needs to be done to utilize this, The other facts are these filters also flow way better than your OEM or filters so even less stress on your oil pump and better oil pressure, They have real anti-drainback valves not the poor fitting cheap ones found on many filters. This keeps everything working as it should.

Works just fine on 1kzte engines here people have imported in and modified there Toyota 4runners with. Same basic set up as the QD32.

Here we do engine oil analysis, you drain out a few ounces mail it off and get it back and it will tell you everything you need to know about how well the system is working. The 1000's and 1000's that have been done on bypass systems show one thing, The oil if far cleaner. It's the reason why they are used in Fleet service vehicles and why people adopt these to personal vehicles. You can add safely up to 2 liters of extra oil capacity to almost any vehicle.

There are some people going 40000 miles to 50000 miles on full synthetic with this set up. That's 80000klm and the oil specs still come back good.

Here is the biggest reason for these systems it' simple it's all about engine wear. The ability to efficiently filter below 5 microns equals 4 times less engine wear. That's why big rigs go millions of miles on there motor.

Also many hear do the same thing with the fuel system as well, we use a 2 micron secondary filter. These will dramatically extend the life of your diesel nozzles and injector pump.

You can also just keep your factory filter in place, and add the bypass filter, your talking less than a liter in extra oil capacity added to your system. Also these act a a oil cooler because they are removed from direct engine heat. Increasing oil capacity is a good thing and does not harm your engine or how your crankcase ventilation system works. I use a oil catch can on mine to keep thing even cleaner.


This works especially well on old dirty non common rail diesels why because you make more soot, a great deal of that winds up in your oil and its in the 20 micron and less catagory.

[SIZE=3]The Dangers of Soot[/SIZE]

The combustion process of diesel engines creates soot. After fuel is injected, combustion occurs with elevated soot levels as a byproduct of the process, and the combustion particulates become trapped on the exposed oil film. The rings wipe the particulates into the oil and the fine particulates aggregate, increasing levels of soot in the oil.
Oil with dispersant additives will generally keep soot in the range of 0.002 to 0.5 microns in suspension; detergent additives prevent the build-up of sludge and act as an acid neutralizer, keeping soot in the range of 0.5 to 1.5 microns in suspension. These anti-wear additives work by providing a sacrificial chemical-to-chemical barrier. As the amount of soot suspended in the oil increases, the performance of these additives decreases. These ranges of particle suspension reveal how important bypass filtration is - and the efficiency of that filtration - to providing the lowest diesel engine wear rates. Yes, wear rates.


Soot Causes Wear
As an oil’s soot dispersant additive level increases, wear reducing additives become less effective. This creates a direct linear correlation between wear and soot concentration; the higher the concentration of soot, the higher the level of wear. Today’s oil manufacturers are extending oil life by holding higher concentrations of contaminants, including soot, in suspension in the oil. They are also increasing fuel economy by reducing oil viscosity and oil film thickness. Therefore, even smaller sized contaminants are becoming critical in items in terms of creating wear. This further necessitates the use of bypass filtration, especially in diesel engines.


Soot is about 2 hardness points less than a diamond, it's like microscopic sandpaper inside your engine and OEM and VIC are not going to do much to cut it. This leads to all kinds of issues and lost compression.



Anything you can do to properly filter your engine oil you should. There is two basic principles in filtration. OEM and Fleet.



OEM= good enough for a average engine life. Manufactures do not want your engine lasting 3 or 4 times longer because they have to sell cars.


FLEET SERVICE= Lowering maintenance cost with providing the longest engine life possible.



SORRY for being so long.

[dvldoc]

Forgot a few, The LF3528 shown on the left is for the following to name a few.


Isuzu KB/HighLander ’97 up/Crosswind 4JA1 Turbo ‘00-‘05/
Fuso Canter 4D30/4D32 (Primary)/Kia Pregio

Isuzu Crosswind 4JA1 ‘00-‘05/Fuego/Hi-Lander ‘97-‘00/4JB1/4JA1

Isuzu Crosswind/Fuego/4FB1/4FB1 ‘80-‘86/Gemini Dsl
.
Mazda 323 (All)/Astina/Anfra Gas/Mazda 3 1.6 ‘05/Ford Lynx ‘98-‘05


All CIVIC, ACCORD, CRX, FIT, JAZZ

KIA RIO, CINCO, SEPHIA,

All SR20 motors, 1.8 sentras.

And a ton ton more.

The BT223, B7243, LF3335, and B163, B34, LF3604
will fit almost all Toyota Camary, Corrola, Suzuki Vitara, Mazda 3 to 2005. Yaris, Ford Fiesta,

And a bunch more. But now have posting this no PM's about your oil filter for your car. You can cross reference these very easily. Just putting out some useful info for those who might want a better than OEM oil filter.

[edtf]

Wow! 540? thats really cheap....we get the OEM for 1k++...I think I'd be using that on my next oil change...the only question now is that if the filter being sold here is authentic...

I hope so I got 2 pcs :D - I think they are authentic they have a big listing on the yellow pages.

[locoroco777]

check out the description of the original ones in sir Dvldoc's post at the earlier page to determine if what you have bought is really authentic....

[edtf]

Here are the pics of the filters I got

[locoroco777]

sir edtf...may prob po yung pic nyo....post the IMG code sir...iba po yung link na nailgay nyo...

*sir dvldoc....I hope you don't mind us discussing here in your thread a slightly unrelated topic regarding the RBOF....

[dvldoc]

Those are the real deal, Those B2 filters fit a lot of applications as well. How much was the B2 Baldwin filter, and how was there stock, few or a lot? Probably one of the few places your going to find those in the Philippines.

Theses are cellulose media filters by they are treated so not just your basic paper oil filters and they hold about 4 to 5 times more dirt before becoming clogged vs OEM or things like VIC or Union.

Fleetguards tend to be a bit better but not by much but just enough they don't meet all of Cummins standards for there filters so you know your getting a good filter with either of these.

The B2 is rated at 50% efficiency at 12 micron and at 30 microns it's 98.7% efficiency at removing contaminates.

Compare that to a VIC, which is 71% efficient at 30 microns and only 39% efficient at 20 microns which is pathetic and only 4% efficient at 10 microns.

Big difference in using a quality filter vs a cheap filter, Sure you might save a few pesos but your going to contribute to engine wear.

[Ry_Tower]

Using it for a 4d56 - 540 for the fleetguard
who said quality has to be expensive :D

I hope so I got 2 pcs :D - I think they are authentic they have a big listing on the yellow pages.

Sir edtf, does volmax sell fleetgurad as well. I got confused na...

[edtf]

Sir edtf, does volmax sell fleetgurad as well. I got confused na...

hehehehe nope baldwin only
W&L sells the fleetguard and Donaldson
If you are down south (of Manila lang) there is also one in Laguna techno Park psoted by dvldoc and another one in Las Pinas. Both are listed in the Yellow Pages.

[userfriendly]

Interesting thread. We use Donaldson and fleetguard filters on our CAT generator sets. Cheaper than CAT OEM filters.

Did not know they can also be used for our rides. Anyone know the oil filter model number for Avanza 1.5?

[dvldoc]

Interesting thread. We use Donaldson and fleetguard filters on our CAT generator sets. Cheaper than CAT OEM filters.

Did not know they can also be used for our rides. Anyone know the oil filter model number for Avanza 1.5?

For Toyotas I like going slightly bigger these are just a 1 inches longer. Cross with a FRAM PH3614

Fleetguard LF3335
Largest OD 76.81 mm (3.024 in)
Overall Height 88.65 mm (3.49 in)
Thread Size 3/4-16 UNF-2B


Baldwin BT223
Thread: 3/4-16
O.D.: 2 29/32 (73.8)
Length: 3 1/2 (88.9)

Donaldson 550335
Thread Size: 3/4-16
Length: 3.4" (86 mm)
Outer Diameter: 3" (76 mm)

STOCK Toyota
Crosses as FRAM PH4967

Fleetguard LF3614 is the cross but I would not use because it does not have a anti drain back valve or bypass valve.


Baldwin b33
Thread: 3/4-16
O.D.: 2 11/16 (68.3)
Length: 3 (76.2)

Donaldson 502024
Thread Size: 3/4-16
Length: 2.56" (65 mm)
Outer Diameter: 2.68" (68 mm)

I would go with the bigger filter. And it will fit with no issues.

These will fit basically all Toyota 4cly and 6cly vehicles except ones with 1kzte, TD42, Engines. 100% Will fit 1999 and UP 4cly and 6cly engines.

Be sure to share where and how much you payed for yours.

[Ry_Tower]

hehehehe nope baldwin only
W&L sells the fleetguard and Donaldson
If you are down south (of Manila lang) there is also one in Laguna techno Park psoted by dvldoc and another one in Las Pinas. Both are listed in the Yellow Pages.

Thanks, I will try Fleetguard. Do they sell fuel filters for 4m40 as well? Or Baldwin lang yung may fuel filter?

[12vdc]

Thanks, I will try Fleetguard. Do they sell fuel filters for 4m40 as well? Or Baldwin lang yung may fuel filter?

They Do.. Please check the following sites for the cross-reference.
Just be careful with indirect crosses as size and thread size matters, always double check and compare the width, diameter, ADBV, PSI setting of bypass valve, oil seal diameter..

The recommended

Fleetguard:
http://www.fleetguard.com/catalog/js...sreference=yes
Baldwin:
http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/startproductguide.html
Donaldson:
https://dynamic.donaldson.com/webc/W...reference.html
ChampionLabs/ Luberfiner:
http://www.luberfiner.com/catalog/parts-catalog.aspx
Wix:
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/


Others

Mann + Hummel (Europe):
http://www.mann-hummel.com/mf_prodka...=3&ktlg_lang=1
Ryco (Australia):
http://www.rycofilters.com.au/catalogue/xref

Japanese:
JS Asakashi:
http://www.js-filter.com/catalogue
Sakura:
http://www.sakuracatalogue.com/filte...ra/filter2.php
Vic:
http://www.eiken-kk.com/vicf.html


The not so recommended:
Fram:
http://www.framcatalog.com/Application.aspx?b=F

[edtf]

Thanks, I will try Fleetguard. Do they sell fuel filters for 4m40 as well? Or Baldwin lang yung may fuel filter?

I saw some fleetguard fuel filters. Not sure what sizes. Funny thing is I do need to buy a filter or two Volmax carries Baldwin fuel and air filters too