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    Even some economists agree to put the health crisis / lives first before the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    isa pang bansa na madaming pera na may pambili.

    Kung dati may susuhulan na bansa para gawing laboratoring-daga.

    Ngayon ang nanunuhol ang magiging daga. Role reversal

    Makakaganti na mga african countries. MABUHAY!!! ang waiting list mga huli sa pila.

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    First deliveries to Japan are planned for the first half of 2021, added the Mainz-based company.

    Laboratories around the world are racing to find a vaccine to curb COVID-19, which has claimed more than 667,000 lives and upended the livelihoods of millions. bit.ly/31a5cH8
    guess which developing country nakasalalay ang vaccine para sa buong mundo?

    India

    Serum Institute of India -- world’s largest vaccine manufacturer by volume

    di lahat ng American/European big pharma manufacture their own vaccines

    they use contract manufacturers in India

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pero pag China vaccine ang makina ni tatay digong sa December ikaw mauna sa pila?

    Hind kahit sino pa mauna sa vaccine eh mag waitress lang ako.

    Hanggang lianhua quingwen, supplements and ancient herbs ang tiwala ko.

    Baka this veeerus eh nangyari na din before sa ancient time.

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    #15664
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    guess which developing country nakasalalay ang vaccine para sa buong mundo?

    India

    Serum Institute of India -- world’s largest vaccine manufacturer by volume

    di lahat ng American/European big pharma manufacture their own vaccines

    they use contract manufacturers in India
    Diba yun isang Indian pharma nagsimula na silang mag manufacture nun vaccine kahit hinde pa tapos testing para pag na approve meron na agad


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Diba yun isang Indian pharma nagsimula na silang mag manufacture nun vaccine kahit hinde pa tapos testing para pag na approve meron na agad


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Diba yun isang Indian pharma nagsimula na silang mag manufacture nun vaccine kahit hinde pa tapos testing para pag na approve meron na agad


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    For sure hindi yan sa China ibebenta agad if proven effective. If medyo may sablay malamang magbenta sila sa China hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Hindi naman inaadmit ang mild to moderate cases. Pero ganun na karami ang moderate cases with comorbids and severe cases na napupuno ang covid wards ng mga ospital ngayon.

    Di ko alam kung di niyo lang talaga alam or insensitive lang kayo, but your posts reek of gaslighting the medical community instead of demanding accountability from the government and the DOH. Doctors are asking for ECQ not because they're inefficient but because the system just can't handle it anymore. The influx of patients now is worse than it has ever been.

    A friend of mine is a doctor, was positive last May but asymptomatic so gumaling na. Got reinfected this week, this time with moderate symptoms (fever and pneumonia). Walang kwarto and she had to wait for 15 hours to get a room.

    Another doctor friend, nahawa buong family last weekend. Mother died this Thursday. Symptoms went from mild to severe in the span of 24 hrs. Her dad and 2 kids still have covid symptoms.

    Also another friend, super wealthy family with lots of connections, pero when his dad got COVID it took them over 10 hours and lots of strings pulled just to get a room.

    Paano pa yung mga tao na walang koneksyon, walang pera.

    We need to give the healthcare system some breathing room, or else it will collapse under its own weight. I understand the economic implication but we're talking lives of both patients and healthcare workers here - if you do the lockdown right, you don't need to lock down for months. In fact they are only asking for a few weeks.

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    For me we can't go back to March ECQ style. However, gym's, indoor cinemas, more than 50% restaurant capacity, buffet style dine-in, motel\inn and other activities considered high-risk should not be reopened\done yet.

    National government should prioritize a better transportation system at pabalikin na jeepney para hindi na nagaagawan mga tao sa public transport, strictest implementation of health protocols din with the LGU's help siyempre ans this is very important. Hospital bed capacity and quarantine centers should be prioritized indeed at hindi sa kung saan-saan ginagastos ng gobyerno ang pera (wala pa din reliable audit report).

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    yes definitely huwag muna mga gym

    lahat ng bansa nag reopen ng gym had to reclose coz of new clusters originating from indoor gyms

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    Japan confirmed on Saturday at least 1,123 new coronavirus infections, topping the 1,000 mark for the fourth straight day, as authorities in large cities have been forced to reimpose restrictions on some businesses to address the resurgence of the virus.

    In Tokyo, an additional 472 cases were reported, a record daily increase for the third straight day, following 463 logged Friday.

    Japan reports over 1, infections for 4th day as virus resurges

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    #15670
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    For me we can't go back to March ECQ style. However, gym's, indoor cinemas, more than 50% restaurant capacity, buffet style dine-in, motel\inn and other activities considered high-risk should not be reopened\done yet.

    National government should prioritize a better transportation system at pabalikin na jeepney para hindi na nagaagawan mga tao sa public transport, strictest implementation of health protocols din with the LGU's help siyempre ans this is very important. Hospital bed capacity and quarantine centers should be prioritized indeed at hindi sa kung saan-saan ginagastos ng gobyerno ang pera (wala pa din reliable audit report).

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    I'm with your brother. Hinde na talaga pwede ECQ/total lockdown.
    Hybrid dapat. Ibalik nila yun mga police dapat talaga visible mga police para sumunod mga tao.

    Ano ba yun quarantine protocol yun hinde na masyado nag stop sa check point bale random na lang ginagawa nila para hinde traffic. MECQ ba yun?





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    yung motel sa tancha ko pwede na basta yung garage style kasi magchecheck-in naman jan dalawa lang 99percent yan. Pag tatlo kayo eh double charge na so better apat kayo para get the other garage room kahit iisang kotse lang kayo pumasok,. Bakit ko alam ito eh nung 90s totoy pa ako nagawa ko yan may nakilala kami sa robinsons galleria taga st marys bale 15years old si girl ako 19years old at that time. Laki ng bumper hindi bagay sa face kasi nene pa talaga beauty. Yung sa kaibigan ko eh malungkot na pag idedescribe ko pa so talo ganun.

    Ang bawal si sogo kasi condo type motel grabe kakulob and ang ninipis ng pagitan/pader mariring mo naguusap mga staff palakad-lakad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    I'm with your brother. Hinde na talaga pwede ECQ/total lockdown.
    Hybrid dapat. Ibalik nila yun mga police dapat talaga visible mga police para sumunod mga tao.


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    Yes, police should really be strict in implementing wearing of facemask, social distancing and proper number of passengers in PUV's.

    If may barangay na mataas infection rate, pwede na yun lang ang ilockdown for 2 weeks. All along increasing health care capacity and recruiting more frontliners. I believe may report na halos wala nag-aapply, maybe because sobra sablay ng DOH kaya nag-aalangan sila plus low salaries.

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    Under the latest IATF Resolution 60-A, a barangay will only be locked down if their cases are 80% of all the cases in the City or Municipality it belongs to.

    At that rate, isa o wala kang ma lockdown dyan


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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    Para kasing idinikit lang sa overall statistics worldwide: 11.2M recoveries out of 17.7M cases - 63%

    Tayo naman 65K recoveries out of 98K cases - 66%

    And > 30K recoveries in a single day... Nakakaduda...
    Almost pareho na amg data ng local goverment and DOH when it comes to recoveries.

    Mabagal lang talaga ang DOH mag tally kaya naipon pero I think tama naman.

    Even before pa i-annouce ng DOH yung 30k+ recoveries, ang data ng local goverment when it comes to recoveries is 60-80%

    One example is Manila. Look at their number of their confirmed and recoveries. Medyo nag iincrease lang ngayon.



    We have this discussion before here na ang bagal ng DOH mag tally ng recoveries and mas updated talaga local goverment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    Almost pareho na amg data ng local goverment and DOH when it comes to recoveries.

    Mabagal lang talaga ang DOH mag tally kaya naipon pero I think tama naman.

    Even before pa i-annouce ng DOH yung 30k+ recoveries, ang data ng local goverment when it comes to recoveries is 60-80%

    One example is Manila. Look at their number of their confirmed and recoveries. Medyo nag iincrease lang ngayon.



    We have this discussion before here na ang bagal ng DOH mag tally ng recoveries and mas updated talaga local goverment.
    Dati ko pa rin question yan recoveries ng DOH, 90% mild at that time pero hinde humahabol yun figure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if you did not die after 14 days recovered ka na

    hehe
    Ganyan kaya magiging criteria nung LGU dito sa amin para i-clear ako or I’m on my own if I want to get a second swab? 5 more days and matatapos na 14 days ko.


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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    I read sometime in April that there are more than 18,000 hospital beds in NCR.
    With the current available covid beds of only around 5000 for both ward and isolation, means hospitals are only allocating 30% of their bed capacity to covid19.
    Mukha pera talaga yata ang reason ng bed shortage.
    it's not just money.

    even before covid, marami nang costumers ang hospital.
    many of these patients did not diminish in number, when covid arrived. yung mga "elective" lang ang puedeng i-postpone.
    every single bed reserved for covid, is one less bed for the general medical patient.

    bottomline,
    when push comes to shove,
    may pasyenteng matatanggihan.
    que covid or non-covid.
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    Several Chinese companies are at the forefront of the race to develop an immunity to the disease and Russia has set a target date of September to roll out its own vaccine. bit.ly/2BTDR3y



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    This is what happens when you don't stay silent. This is what happens when you don't have a "sumunod ka nalang" mentality.



    Not exepcting total lockdown but any action from the government to help give the medical community any breathing room will be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    This is what happens when you don't stay silent. This is what happens when you don't have a "sumunod ka nalang" mentality.



    Not exepcting total lockdown but any action from the government to help give the medical community any breathing room will be greatly appreciated.

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    Matagal ng nakikinig yang office of the president ni Duterte sa mga complaints and requests.
    All you have to do is either call 8888 or email their pcc*malacanang.gov.ph
    Mas effective ang email because they can email to you yung signed letter ni Medaldia directing the agency or department responsible to act on your complaints.
    Once they acknowledged your email its assured action is being done.
    I've done this with my problem with PLDT around 2 years ago and wondering why last July 6 , business travel was suddenly allowed, Im one of the petitioners.
    I received an email on July 2 that my request was being considered. In fact yung travel insurance was one of my suggestions.
    Too bad lang yung airport na destination ko hindi nagbukas.
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