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    #15581
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    So may sub-class din ba ang IgG?
    viruses have different surface molecules so our bodies make specific antibodies for specific viruses

    antibodies to measles are different from antibodies to chicken pox

    kaya meron iba't ibang vaccine

    mumps, measles, rubella, diphtheria etc etc

    iba iba ang itsura ng mga virus so an antibody for flu cannot fight dengue

    ung flu itself there are many strains of flu virus an antibody for last year's flu virus may not attach to this year's flu virus kaya every year scientist have to make educated guess what strain will be dominant to make vaccine for it

    if the point is SARSCOV2 antibody test can detect antibodies for other infections then everyone should test positive coz who on earth has never had an infection in their life?

    we all have antibodies in our body depending on what germs we have encountered

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    pneumonia means, inflammation of the lungs.
    there are many causes of pneumonia... viruses, bacteria, fungi, chemicals, etc.

    the pneumonia vaccine is supposed to protect you from several types of microbiologic agents..
    but it will not protect you from covid pneumonia and other microbiological agents not included in your pneumonia shot.

    then, there is the condition known as "immunocompromise".
    if the covid weakens your immune system, diseases you were initially immunized against might catch on and cause complicating illness.

    so, in answer to your question.
    you can still get pneumonia after your pneumonia shot, but the likelihood of it being one of those included in the pneumonia shot, is less likely.
    Is the likelihood of getting a secondary infection that causes pneumonia higher if you have covid19? DOH seems to recommend those 2 shots based on that possibility.

    DOH recommends flu, pneumonia vaccines to prevent COVID-19 complications | Inquirer News

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    #15583
    ung SARCOV2 antibody test looks for antibodies for SARSCOV2

    the strip inside the test cassette has molecules where SARCOV2 antibodies will bind to

    since there are coronaviruses other than SARSCOV2, their surface molecules could be quite similar to SARSCOV2

    if you were infected by other coronavirues your body made antibodies for those viruses

    a low-specificity SARSCOV2 test could pick up those antibodies

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    #15584
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Is the likelihood of getting a secondary infection that causes pneumonia higher if you have covid19? DOH seems to recommend those 2 shots based on that possibility.

    DOH recommends flu, pneumonia vaccines to prevent COVID-19 complications | Inquirer News
    coz the last thing you want is to fall sick from another infection during this pandemic

    when you're sick with something else and you get the SARSCOV2 virus your body is not likely to be strong enough to fight it

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    Lianhua Qingwen Receives Product Listing Approval from Singapore HSA

    Lianhua Qingwen Receives Product Listing Approval from Singapore HSA


    May 7, 2020, 3:14 PM



    SHIJIAZHUANG, China, May 7, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Yiling Pharmaceutical (002603.SZ) announced that it has obtained the product listing approval issued by the Health Sciences Authority (HSA) of Singapore which grants Lianhua Qingwen Capsule the initial sale authorization in the country. The approval certifies and registers Lianhua Qingwen - a traditional Chinese medicine commonly used for the prevention and treatment of viral influenza - under the category of Chinese Proprietary Medicines (CPM).


    Lianhua Qingwen Receives Product Listing Approval from Singapore HAS.


    Developed under the guidance of collateral disease theory, the medicine is listed as the recommended medicine for the treatment of cold and influenza by China's National Health Commission and National Administration of Traditional Chinese Medicine. Composed of 13 Chinese herbs, the TCM has been found in the clinical research that it is effective in alleviating the influenza-induced symptoms like fever, cough and fugue.

    Lianhua Qingwen also plays a pivotal role in the prevention and control of COVID-19 in China. Lianhua Qingwen was shown in a clinical trial to improve the recovery rate of patients infected with COVID-19. The latest research by State Key Laboratory of Respiratory Diseases, the First Affiliated Hospital of Guangzhou Medical University has revealed that Lianhua Qingwen significantly inhibited the SARS-COV-2 replication, affected virus morphology and reduced the virus load in the infected cells in vitro.

    Following the positive clinical results, the State Drug Administration of China recently approved the addition of new indications of Lianhua Qingwen in the treatment for COVID-19 symptoms. Other authorities have also incorporated the medicine as the country's standard therapy for the coronavirus pneumonia. The medicine has been listed in the "Diagnosis and Treatment Protocol for Novel Coronavirus Pneumonia" (Trial Version 4/5/6/7) issued by the General Office of the National Health and Health Commission of China and Office of the State Administration of Traditional Chinese Medicine. In addition, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of China has also included Lianhua Qingwen as one of the essential medical items for the COVID-19.

    During the webinar organized by China's Ministry of Foreign Affair and National Health Commission with Chinese overseas students, Zhongnan Shan, China's top respiratory expert and the government's senior medical adviser, shared anti-epidemic guidance with the students and noted that Lianhua Qingwen has been proven effective for treating patients infected with COVID-19.

    The efficacy of the Lianhua Qingwen has also been recognized by the global medical communities. Lianhua Qingwen is the first Chinese-patented medicine to enter FDA clinical trials for the treatment of influenza and is currently undergoing Phase II trials to evaluate efficacy and safety. To date, the Lianhua Qingwen product has been registered and granted with the sales authorization by other seven countries, including Canada, Brazil, Indonesia, Mozambique, Romania, Ecuador and Thailand.

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    #15586
    Philippines version: virgin coconut oil, malunggay, banaba, sambong, luyang dilaw, lagundi, tawa tawa, ampalaya, tanglad, pito-pito...

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    #15587
    On process na yan sa FDA natin but mabagal lang talaga gumalas dito, wala nga sense of urgency simula sa tatay mo hanggan sa pinakabata na Bataan niya.


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    #15588
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Is the likelihood of getting a secondary infection that causes pneumonia higher if you have covid19? DOH seems to recommend those 2 shots based on that possibility.

    DOH recommends flu, pneumonia vaccines to prevent COVID-19 complications | Inquirer News
    But my question is, is this the right time to have those shots? Eh nakakatakot pag magkaroon ka ng side effects after the shots kahit 2-3 days ka lang magkasakit while your body is developing antibodies


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    #15589
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    coz the last thing you want is to fall sick from another infection during this pandemic

    when you're sick with something else and you get the SARSCOV2 virus your body is not likely to be strong enough to fight it
    Baka yan naman ang sunod na tumaas ang presyo. Buti na lang tapos na kami sa 2 vaccines na yan.

    Thinking if I should get it for our employees.

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    #15590
    DOH reports large daily spike of 4K Covid cases, defends ‘mass recovery’ reporting | BusinessMirror

    Looks like DOH changed the way they test for 'recovered'. It seems like they were insisting on a negative RT-PCR test before, but as shown in other studies strands of virus RNA can remain in the body for weeks after recovery.

    Kaya naman pala ang bagal ng recoveries natin despite the virus supposedly having an outcome in two weeks or so.

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    #15591
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    But my question is, is this the right time to have those shots? Eh nakakatakot pag magkaroon ka ng side effects after the shots kahit 2-3 days ka lang magkasakit while your body is developing antibodies


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    That's my second question hehe. Another thing, kung asymptomatic na may sarscov2 na pala, di ba delikado?

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    #15592
    Mamaya daw 14 medical associations will be asking the govt to put NCR back under ECQ.

    Oh ****! Here we go...


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    #15593
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    But my question is, is this the right time to have those shots? Eh nakakatakot pag magkaroon ka ng side effects after the shots kahit 2-3 days ka lang magkasakit while your body is developing antibodies


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    hmm... after getting those shots huwag lumabas ng bahay for 2 to 3 days para di mahawaan ng sarscov2

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    #15594
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    we cannot tell from a photo if the test kit is high specificity or not

    an antibody test cassette only shows lines -- control, IGM, IGG

    ung specificity nasa quality ng raw material na ginamit sa pag manufacture ng test kit

    dito sa Pinas very popular ung Innovita brand

    Deestone alam mo ba anong brand ng test kit gamit niyo?
    No i dont know the brand only the nurses knew about it probably and I cannot see the box of rapid testkit use in the room they are strict. I have to ask the nurse or probably sneek to check the rapid testkit box for the brand that we use.

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    #15595
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    No i dont know the brand only the nurses knew about it probably and I cannot see the box of rapid testkit use in the room they are strict. I have to ask the nurse or probably sneek to check the rapid testkit box for the brand that we use.

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    if the test cassette looks like this Innovita yan

    meron siya separate IGM and IGG slot

    so 2 drops of blood

    (photo from internet)




    this one is a Clungene test cassette

    1 drop of blood lang to check IGM and IGG

    most test kits are like this

    my test in mid-July


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    #15596
    It was the 1st time i wore a face shield yesterday and it was uncomfortable. Masakit din pala sa noo pag matagal na. Umikit sa noo ko eh [emoji23]

    Pero syempre, safety first and kelangan na daw.



    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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    #15597
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    It was the 1st time i wore a face shield yesterday and it was uncomfortable. Masakit din pala sa noo pag matagal na. Umikit sa noo ko eh [emoji23]

    Pero syempre, safety first and kelangan na daw.
    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    May face shield na parang eyeglass, very lightweight and clear, madalas nakakalumutan kong suot ko. As cheap as 35 pesos sa lazada or shopee. Mayron din nopeet type na 3/4 face ang covered good for windy condition kaso masakit sa nosebridge pag matagal nakasyot.
    Last edited by glenn_duke; August 1st, 2020 at 09:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    May face shield na parang eyeglass, very lightweight and clear, madalas nakakalumutan kong suot ko. As cheap as 35 pesos sa lazada or shopee. Mayron din nopeet type na 3/4 face ang covered good for windy condition kaso masakit sa nosebridge pag matagal nakasyot.
    We also have that but it doesn't cover the top of the head down to the forehead. Comfortable but not as effective as the ones that seal from the forehead down.

    I use one of those translucent plastic welding helmets. Medyo mabigat lang pag matagal mo na suot.

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    #15599
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    We also have that but it doesn't cover the top of the head down to the forehead. Comfortable but not as effective as the ones that seal from the forehead down.

    I use one of those translucent plastic welding helmets. Medyo mabigat lang pag matagal mo na suot.
    May mga oversize na variety ngayon, I bought some from shark phil , gray yung color ng rubber clip, medyo mas mahal, covered buong hairline down to the chin.
    Ayoko kasi ng may naka kapit sa noo ko, dust trap yan.
    Last edited by glenn_duke; August 1st, 2020 at 10:09 AM.

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    May the odds be in your favor... Bukas na ulit yung tambayan ni OB...

    “After nearly five months, gyms and fitness centers are reopening today despite the World Health Organization’s advice that these establishments should remain closed.”

    DON’T THINK gyms are being allowed to open because they promote health & well-being, no siree. They’re being allowed to operate because many jobs are at risk of evaporating, & because gym owners are already financially compromised. This is now a case of an industry being allowed to test the waters, on the condition that the gym owners & their employees be willing to deal with the potential dire consequence of an outbreak originating from their establishments. In other words, they asked for it, they’re on their own.

    But starting today, gyms are allowed to reopen, albeit in a limited capacity
    Last edited by Monseratto; August 1st, 2020 at 10:49 AM.

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