anti-smoke emission and fuel-saving device

[Alfalfameister]

I have fuel saving device that really works: savings on gas/diesel is significant (about 10%), and improved acceleration and power. Costs approximately 8k with installation. Could be more or less, depending on configuration.

Hey, the air-bleed type "fuel-saving" devices which probably don't work, or have DETRIMENTAL effects on engine and/or environment cost about P6,500 - P10,000 depending on model, and the thingy you put at the "ass end" of your pipe (I love that description, ghosthunter!) and with only one friggin' jeepney as a test vehicle (and tested only once, I think, instead of multiple test-runs) are DUBIOUS.

My "fuel-saving" device has many studies to show it works!









OPEN TYPE K&N FILTER.

(I would like to suggest the drop-in, replacement-type K&N, but really, the improvements are insignificant. The open-type, on the other hand really has noticeable improvements in fuel consumption and horsepower/torque).

CONS: Makes noisy sucking sound, and my engine was a tad noisier.

--Alf

[doc eric]

My "fuel-saving" device has many studies to show it works!


Hi Alf,

would you like to share this one with us? If it works then maybe we can use it too

[niky]

Ah... it's commonly agreed that K&N open filters (not drop-ins, the cone type), save some gas, while providing a little more performance.

Yan nga yung main complaint sa K&N, it's not that much difference in performance, pero okay daw sa gas.

[BioActiv]

Hey guys maybe you would like to try mine. BioActiv Diesel enhancer. Its a biodiesel blended to diesel fuel. you may want to visit our web site www.chemrez.com or if we can get together i may bring some samples and lets have your diesel engine test free of charge! I will bring along with me Opacimeter for actual emission test. Its now selling in seaoil and flying v stations (Bioexceed, Envirotek). Just give me a ring at 0917*******. thanks

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[Benji_DCP]

Originally posted by BioActiv
Hey guys maybe you would like to try mine. BioActiv Diesel enhancer. Its a biodiesel blended to diesel fuel. you may want to visit our web site www.chemrez.com or if we can get together i may bring some samples and lets have your diesel engine test free of charge! I will bring along with me Opacimeter for actual emission test. Its now selling in seaoil and flying v stations (Bioexceed, Envirotek). Just give me a ring at 0917*******. thanks

Is your bio diesel blend cheaper than the regular diesel?

Maybe you would want to start your own thread about bio-diesel, or I believe there is one here already... so you could enlighten us further.

[Alfalfameister]

* Doc Eric

There was a lot of sarcasm in my post, partially induced by irritation from all of these so-called fuel saving devices. Of particular irritation for me is Planas's smug look and his claim that his device saves gas AND reduces pollution! Furthermore, some politicians even vouch for his product!

A website (www.fuelsaving.info) completely debunks air-bleed type devices like the khaos, and further states that it is NOT environmentally friendly (NOx emissions). And now, our well-meaning but ignorant politicians are vouching for this product! A little more research would really enlighten them -- how would they like to be known as the politician who helped add pollution to our air?

However, as much as my tirade was a sarcastic effort to make a parody on these bogus products (with well-intentioned inventors, I might add), I was also rather serious about the effects of K&N filters, especially the open-type (cone) version.

In a nutshell, K&N air filters (esp the open type) allow more air because the filter itself is less restrictive, without compromising the filtering objective of the air filter. More air in = better combustion.

There are a lot of factors that may affect fuel consumption / power increase, but on the whole, K&N has a lot of testimonials of the effects of using the K&N. Sometimes, though, fuel consumption is negated by the more-excited drivers because of the increase in acceleration, etc. ... i.e., they floor their car more because of the faster and more exciting to drive, thereby negating any improvement in fuel consumption.

Check out websites, and check out testimonials, as well as the K&N website (www.knfilter.com). There is a lot of, in my opinion, condign praise for the product.

They are very wary about making claims, but overwhelm you with testimonials instead (rather than products like khaos which are all claims, and no real proof). Much more believable, isn't it?

And in this particular case, you will find a lot of tsikoteers who will not say anything really bad about K&N -- not a lot of critics here, I think. Nor skeptics, when it comes to K&N. Granted, just because the majority might agree with me, it still doesn't prove anything (many people believed and agreed the world was flat). So you can do your due diligence and surf the net or something.
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*Bioactiv

I am a firm believer in Senbel's Biodiesel. How different is your product from theirs? The only reason I'm not using Senbel's Biodiesel is because it is not CONVENIENTLY available (so I resign myself to using Petron Diesel Booster everytime I fill up at, duh, Petron).

But I do remember, from personal experience, that a 2-5% mix actually improved my fuel consumption, and more than made up for the additional price of Senbel's biodiesel. Going to a 10% mix yielded diminishing returns (good results, but not as value-for-money as the 2-5%). And in both cases, there was much less smoke belching. (As an aside, though, before I sold one of my pick-ups, I ran it till almost empty, then put in 20 liters of biodiesel and... voila! No more smoke! No more belching! Buyer was so surprised that there was virtually no smoke, heheh.)

I also remember talking to someone from Senbel, and they were planning a tie-up with Flying V. I was looking forward to that. I guess you guys beat them to it?

In Seaoil and Flying V, what concentration of biodiesel does it have? 2%? 5%? I haven't read your FAQs yet (too late now, and, well, too lazy whatever time, heheh). Senbel's was coco-bio diesel, but the quick glance at your website said yours was from vegetable oil...

Anyway, I'll go check your website and ask more questions here. Better for me to be somewhat informed and asking somewhat informed questions than asking ignorant ones.

Cheers!

--Alf

[Alfalfameister]

Additional Note:

Re: K&N. On a PERSONAL experience basis (not scientific, even though I'm meticulous in measuring my fuel consumption), when I installed the open type K&N on my Strada, there was, on the average, about a 10% improvement on fuel consumption. This was "tested" over many months. Before I sold the Strada, I had it removed and put the original filter back on (2nd hand buyers like the look of stock stuff, I guess). Fuel consumption dropped about 10%. I guess you can call that a personal A-B-A comparison.

Re: Biodiesel -- I guess you buy the chemrez biodiesel on a per liter basis also. I thought kasi it was pre-mixed in their pump na (senbel was kinda planning that, I think). Will give it a try.

Cheers!

[luckytruck]

si garyq nagdedliver ng carryboy ng senbel, free of charge, basta 20 liters.

i have been using it for 6 months na here in gen. santos city

andy

[Alfalfameister]

Yeah, I'll probably be ordering from Garyq one or two carbuoys. Pero, nakakatamad pa rin yung ako mismo maglalagay, eh. I know, I know... that's really being too lazy.

But still, if they sold sana the biodiesel in the gas station, then you just tell the guy there to put it in when you gas up, eh, that's less hassle and you don't get your hands dirty pa.

[BioActiv]

Thanks guys!
Well to make it more convinient for you, BioActiv bottles are available in 1 liter and 200 ml. This can treat 100 liters and 20 liters of diesel fuel resp. Bottle was designed transparently and with scale so need not to worry of blending. It also comes with induction seals preventing it to spill and adulteration. Conviniently once you get to Sea Oil gas station for gas up, try buying bioexceed. Attendants are happy to assist you for filling up. 200 ml is affordable. Good for 20 liter diesel. If you are due for registration and had problems with emissions, try visiting our outlets. Put high blend ratio for cleaning. thanks

[Alfalfameister]

Okay, just checked Bioexceed...

Smells the same as Senbel's... probably the same... tastes the same (just kidding)... heheh... how's that for scientific proof?

Assuming (and this assumption has absolutely no basis) that they are very similar, Bioexceed is P30 for 200 ml, or about P150 for a liter (I didn't see the actual price for a liter). Senbel's is P67 I think.

That makes Senbel's half the price... Of course, I have no idea if Bioexceed is 2x better, in which case the price is justified...

Anyway, will try seaoil and bioexceed next time, though the price of bioexceed vis-a-vis Senbel's cocodiesel is a bit of a turn off. Unless it is proved of course that bioexceed is 2x better.

[me_jake13]

i have a fuel saving device in my car, its not khaos.. it was invented by a low profile filipino inventor/classic car enthusiast and restorer, who doesnt need politicians to help sell his products. he started making it 10 years ago, i believe for his personal use lang since he restores cars that use too much fuel..my cars fuel consumption has improved so much that we installed it in all our cars..it really works great..however, i do believe that other fuel saving devices are just bogus,and lots of them are just cheap imitations that only do worse for your car. i just wanted to share it with you guys..

[BioActiv]

Hello Alf,
U may use 1 % blend ratio only for BioActiv. This you get value for money! You amy get additional front end cost but the back end gain is bigger. For vehicles running daily on 20 liter diesel, 200 ml BioActiv will do na! and for all you know it is only Php 30-40 bucks lang! Take note ha, 1% blend lang is all you need. I had seen some other brand ng Biodiesel and nag leak sya sa even sealed pa. And i am not sure how much na nai karga ko coz i can't see the content inside. Tantyahan lang ba. Yuo may find a good product over the other very simple way. Refrigerate it !!!! Which product sets first, means that it has plenty of glycerine in it. Glycerine is very bad for the engine. It could clogged up nozzles and ports. Thanks.

[BioActiv]

Thanks Alf.

Pards if there are activities outside, you may invite us and maybe i can bring some samples, a few box will do. but since na you are the first to try, reserved na kita ng 1 bottle FOC na!

[Alfalfameister]

Originally posted by me_jake13
i have a fuel saving device in my car, its not khaos.. it was invented by a low profile filipino inventor/classic car enthusiast and restorer, who doesnt need politicians to help sell his products. he started making it 10 years ago, i believe for his personal use lang since he restores cars that use too much fuel..my cars fuel consumption has improved so much that we installed it in all our cars..it really works great..however, i do believe that other fuel saving devices are just bogus,and lots of them are just cheap imitations that only do worse for your car. i just wanted to share it with you guys..

It may save fuel, but what are the side effects? No one measures NOx here, it seems. Anyway, I am not refuting his invention, but I suggest everyone read up www.fuelsaving.info and get good info from there.

RE: Biodiesel...

Okay, yun, refridgerator. Kaya lang, baka ma-inom pa -- oh well, non toxic naman diba? Heheh. But I will try refridgerating that.

I don't normally join tsikot/kotse activities, except maybe race with Auto_Xer from time to time.... Darn, I think he's faster na than me... Well, he was Rookie of The Year last year, and is runaway winner for RP-11 RallyCross this year... (Oks ba build up, Auto_Xer?).

But I WILL claim my free bottle, thank you very much... heheheh...

[luckytruck]

its my understanding that they are the same. mahal lang talaga daw ang chemrez. that is why i use senbel.

si garyq can probably expound.

andy

[lapu]

Due to the "scavenging effect", the device acts like a vacuum cleaner which sucks out all the unburnt fuel, carbon deposits, etc. within the exhaust system all the way to the combustion chamber. The subsequent incoming air plus the fuel mixed to its ideal "stoichiometric ratio" resulting to almost near perfect burning, hence the increase in power and fuel savings.

<<<<< add616reneb,
i can't agree with you on that.... there is no way that after combustion any pressure coming from the tail pipe goes back all the way to the combustion chamber, during, intake, compression & power stroke, all the exhaust valves are close does & during exhaust stroke the amount of pressure release from the combustion chamber cannot in anyway be restricted by any atmoshperic pressure, does the >>> "the device acts like a vacuum cleaner which sucks out all the unburnt fuel, carbon deposits, etc. within the exhaust system all the way to the combustion chamber."<<< would not happen. not until if there is another pipe that leads all the way to the intake manifold which has a recylces effect but then... instead of clean air to the combustion chamber... marumi ang inihigup na hangin.

[BioActiv]

.... Alf

you may get your BioActiv sa Market Market on Monday. Just bring along with you lang mirienda ha worth 125 din.. Hehe. Joke lang......
Drop by ka and claim it. Bring valid ID ha!!! I will bilin nalang sa incharge.

[Alfalfameister]

Haha... thanks, BioActiv... but I already put Bioexceed on my car -- from Seaoil Shaw/Pasig Boulevard. Eh, napadaan na ako, eh.

Thanks for the offer, but I don't pass by Market Market often -- not until I become a tenant there anyway.

[Jopao]

hi guys, am a newbie here. a friend has referred me to another gas saver. he calls it turbomizer. want to know what you think about this. I have not installed one in my car because based on what ive read in this forum and the link to www.fuelsaving.info (thanks to tsikot.com) it seems this is another airbleed type of gadget.

check out www.turbomizer.com

thanks for any feedback.