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    #61
    Agree, the Pajero is rally-proven in the Paris-Dakar rally. But these are short-wheel-based (AWB) highly-modifed rigs. The Everest has also been proven by Malaysian expedition teams in the desert and the jungles. But again, these were modified rigs.

    Stock-to-stock, I'd still pick the Everest over the Pajero. It has a higher power-to-weight ratio. The Pajero engine is powerful but the body is just too heavy. It really sinks in the mud. And without M/T tires, it would go nowhere. The Everest, on the other hand, is a lot lighter and could thus "float" even with H/T tires. On rocky trails, again the Everest's light weight is an advantage.

    Modified, well it would depend on the mods you make. But definitely, it is easier and cheaper to modify an Everest. My mods were just done by 199 ORH, a local outfitter.

    One reason why offroad enthusiasts shy away from the Pajero is the lack of aftermarket mods available in the market. And if you can find any abroad, it's quite expensive.

    On the other hand, the Everest has a lot of after-market mods available in the US and are priced reasonably. These are actually for the Ranger pickup but you can also use them for the Everest.

    But then again, we are comparing apples to oranges here. The Everest and the Pajero is not on the same class. It should be Everest vs Montero and Explorer vs Pajero. On the latter, I have no say.

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    #62
    [quote=JJCarEnthusiast;1178058]errrr... i cant see your pic. or is it just me? the code says <a, href=[/IMG] (without the comma) and its wrong i think. hehehe


    sir sorry po first time ko po kcng magpost andsablay pla hehehe....

    hay ill try it ule hehehe

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    #63
    But then again, we are comparing apples to oranges here. The Everest and the Pajero is not on the same class. It should be Everest vs Montero and Explorer vs Pajero. On the latter, I have no say. [/quote]

    Pajero was no match with the explorer becoz it has a v6 petrol engine while pajero has 2.8 diesel engine(older model) that even everest can beAT him. but in the new model ill go for pajero

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    #64
    Actually, if we're talking about the current unibody Pajero versus the Explorer, I'd pick the Pajero... peppy V6, good handling and great brakes... though the insides are a bit small compared to the Explorer... I don't like the floaty handling and squidgy brakes of the current Explorer, and the new electronic throttle, though good for fuel consumption, makes it feel sluggish... though the previous Eddie Bauer 4x4 was really nice,

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #65
    Onroad, the Explorer wins if paired with a Gen 4 Pajero.

    To think again, which is better off-road, old Montero Sport or the new one?

    Let's just compare old L200 and the new one...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB1RiNeVeek&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB1RiNeVeek&feature=related[/ame]

    Let's just settle this by videos...

    Mazda Bravo vs. L200
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwhoyASR3CQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwhoyASR3CQ[/ame]

    Ranger vs. L200
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTQC7UGTfgc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTQC7UGTfgc[/ame]


    Pajero is rally-proven in the Paris-Dakar rally. But these are short-wheel-based (AWB) highly-modifed rigs.
    Stock Pajero has also been used in expedition trips, cheap charity rallies, and infamous Brazil rally. No wonder their transmissions are already proven for almost 20 years now.

    You have to respect Russians. See how they dive those trucks at the hood level and abuse them properly like in those off-road competitions

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bauOKU_nYs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bauOKU_nYs[/ame]
    Last edited by drey; January 4th, 2009 at 01:20 PM.
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    #66
    ^ those are cooool!! :cool:

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    #67
    dun sa videos, panalo para sa akin yung delica. grabe.

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    #68
    I wonder if the L200 and the Ranger are the same model years. If the Ranger is the older model, talagang less power yung compared to the new one which is TDCI. But if it is the new model and ganyan ang resulta, wala na akong masabi!

    BTW, the driver of the Delica is really good. Notice how we slightly wiggle his front wheels to gain traction. Compare this to the drivers of the first video (the Mazda vs L200). Even when they were in a rut, the front wheels were kept straight. This is the best way to get stuck.

    Here's a tip, when you are in deep mud, especially in a rut, slightly wiggle your front wheel, more so if you don't have lockers. That way, the tires will be constantly moving and grabbing for purchase. If you keep your wheels straight and one tire loses traction, the other tire will just spin uselessly. You eventually lose momentum and get stuck.

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    #69
    i'd still go for that SWB fieldmaster delica has bigger approach angle lang talaga.... but they're both mitsubishi anyway hehehe

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    #70
    speaking of videos.. you might want to consider this..

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60evEr45yzA"]YouTube - The New Driver's Seat - Hyundai Santa Fe[/ame]

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