Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [ARCHIVED]

**roberto_minosa** · March 18th, 2009 10:57 PM

<<double post>>

Anyway, I just saw the video on the previous page. 185km/h limiter on the 2.5L D4D. The limiter on the VVT-i lets the car go a bit faster at 190km/h with the manual tranny, same on the 3.0L Fort and 2.7L VVT-i Fort/Innova. Witnessed it myself, the car won't let me go faster. Dad did 170km/h on our D4D A/T Innova, but I'm sure he did better than that. He just won't tell me

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On acceleration issues with the VVT-i Innova, just let the car rev above 4000RPM to get better acceleration or shift at that rev if you have a manual tranny. I'm more comfortable with the VVT-i on overtaking since the D4D suffers from turbo lag, and torque is limited at high revs (since it's a diesel). Good acceleration from the D4D comes at 2000RPM and ends at about 3800RPM, and that doesn't help when you've got shorter gear ratios. On the other hand, the good acceleration "window" of the VVT-i starts at 3500RPM all the way to redline.

**bratski** · March 19th, 2009 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by roberto_minosa

<<double post>>

Anyway, I just saw the video on the previous page. 185km/h limiter on the 2.5L D4D. The limiter on the VVT-i lets the car go a bit faster at 190km/h with the manual tranny, same on the 3.0L Fort and 2.7L VVT-i Fort/Innova. Witnessed it myself, the car won't let me go faster. Dad did 170km/h on our D4D A/T Innova, but I'm sure he did better than that. He just won't tell me

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On acceleration issues with the VVT-i Innova, just let the car rev above 4000RPM to get better acceleration or shift at that rev if you have a manual tranny. I'm more comfortable with the VVT-i on overtaking since the D4D suffers from turbo lag, and torque is limited at high revs (since it's a diesel). Good acceleration from the D4D comes at 2000RPM and ends at about 3800RPM, and that doesn't help when you've got shorter gear ratios. On the other hand, the good acceleration "window" of the VVT-i starts at 3500RPM all the way to redline.

thats what i hate about the vvti engine in the innova, you have to rev it high to get a decent acceleration,that would be fine except the innova vvti engine doesn't like to be revved, funny but the vvti and d4d engines in the innova behave almost the same (ie both doesn't like to be revved). reg the d4d, my bro in law has a manual d4d and i haven't experienced any turbo lag, pulling power is good from 1.5k rpm to 2.5k rpm.

**roberto_minosa** · March 19th, 2009 07:35 AM

Do you mean vibration on the VVT-i at high revs? That's given. Oh I forgot to mention, I noticed the turbo lag of the D4D with the auto tranny. The manual variant accelerates faster at lower revs, but I feel that it won't like high revs unlike the A/T D4D. Must be the difference in gear ratios between the M/T and A/T.

And don't worry about high revs, she'll take it. The VVT-i is still smooth (and won't blow up) even at 5000rpm and you'd pass the D4D at that engine speed while overtaking; but shifting becomes tricky. It's nerve-wracking to keep the needle below the redline. Think Honda VTEC and you'd get the picture. Except the Innova is a way fatter car.

**Robenson** · March 19th, 2009 04:56 PM

"the good acceleration 'window' of the VVT-i starts at 3500RPM all the way to redline."

Wow, takaw sa gas nun. I can overtake at 2k-3k. Malakas vvti, parang isang halimaw na kailangan mo laging i-temper kasi biglang nagwawala pag napalakas ang apak. I shift gears below 2k without any vibration, kailangan lang timplahin, and he will reward you with good fuel consumption.

Anyway, tuwing kelan pala kayo nagpapalit ng belt (hindi yung chain) mga peeps? Thanks.

**roberto_minosa** · March 19th, 2009 05:21 PM

Sa amin po kasi madaming sasakyan na mabagal eh

...minsan 4 na kotse tsaka isang 18-wheeler ang inoovertake kaya kailangan ubusin ang speed ng gears...anyway, acceleration is relative and I need the kind people usually get on sedans...

**Robenson** · March 19th, 2009 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by roberto_minosa

Sa amin po kasi madaming sasakyan na mabagal eh

...minsan 4 na kotse tsaka isang 18-wheeler ang inoovertake kaya kailangan ubusin ang speed ng gears...anyway, acceleration is relative and I need the kind people usually get on sedans...

Yea your right, its really tempting knowing what 2.0 vvti can do. I'm guilty sometimes

**bratski** · March 20th, 2009 01:07 AM

roberto_minosa,
clarify ko lang yung statement regarding fort 3.0 can't keep up with vvti, vvti ng innova ba yun? o vvti ng fort? parang nababagalan kasi ako sa innova vvti, pero to give credit naman, maganda yung a/t na nakakabit sa innova vvti in which na maximize niya yung little power available. parang d4d din humatak sa arangkada, but loses steam sa rektahan. na spoiled lang siguro ako dun sa isa kong car, 1.2k-2k rpm palang kasi yun naka pin down nako sa seats hehe. kaya pag itong innova ko ginagamit ko nababagalan ako.

**xmasps3** · March 20th, 2009 03:48 AM

Innova's D4D is garbage. nakakatawa yun mga pro D4D just because they have D4D not knowing its issues lolz.

**Mile2** · March 20th, 2009 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by xmasps3

Innova's D4D is garbage. nakakatawa yun mga pro D4D just because they have D4D not knowing its issues lolz.

Flame baiting?

Bago ka palang dito (3 post), learn forum ethics before you post.

**leinahtan** · March 20th, 2009 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by xmasps3

Innova's D4D is garbage. nakakatawa yun mga pro D4D just because they have D4D not knowing its issues lolz.

Hey, noob, observe your manners. Do not comment on something which might offend other owners. I'm sure you want to stay long on this forum, so be aware of your post/s.