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    #17281
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    rapid antigen test swab yan

    pero of course nowhere near as sensitive as PCR

    likelihood of false negatives
    thanks bro.

    eto yung info na binigay ng company namin:

    The Rapid Antigen Test detects certain proteins or glycans, such as spike proteins found
    on the surface of the SArS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus. A fluid sample is obtained using a
    nasal swab. Antigen tests can produce results in approximately 15 minutes. This test
    reveals if a person is currently infected with pathogens such as COVID-19, even on Day 1
    of the infection

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    #17282
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    give you a clue Doc

    try India

    They're ahead of us in using that rapid antigen test

    they already found out..........
    i found the product description / infomercial. i also found the sort-of press release.
    sabi nga, na medyo mataas ang false negatives.
    but i can't seem to find the false positive and false negative figures.
    perhaps you already know them... sirit naman.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 2nd, 2020 at 09:30 AM.

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    #17283
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i found the product description / infomercial. i also found the sort-of press release.
    sabi nga, na medyo mataas ang false negatives.
    but i can't seem to find the false positive and false negative figures.
    perhaps you already know them... sirit naman.
    "standard Q covid antigen rapid test."

    according to the speaker,

    test is time-sensitive; best if done as per recommendations:
    if symptomatic, test is done within 5 days.
    if asymptomatic, test is done 5-8 days after exposure.

    if positive, then it is good-as-gold positive.
    if negative, must confirm using PCR.

    alas, i did not hear the sensitivity-specificity figures.
    but product etiketa says something like 94-95%, daw.

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    #17284
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if asymptomatic, test is done 5-8 days after exposure.
    When will start counting the days when you're asymptomatic?
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    #17285
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    When will start counting the days when you're asymptomatic?
    "best guess as to when you were initially exposed".
    it sucks, but... that's life.
    this is where we may have to rely on contact tracing.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 2nd, 2020 at 12:48 PM.

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    #17286
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "standard Q covid antigen rapid test."

    according to the speaker,

    test is time-sensitive; best if done as per recommendations:
    if symptomatic, test is done within 5 days.
    if asymptomatic, test is done 5-8 days after exposure.

    if positive, then it is good-as-gold positive.
    if negative, must confirm using PCR.

    alas, i did not hear the sensitivity-specificity figures.
    but product etiketa says something like 94-95%, daw.
    yup when there's too little virus at the time of the swab the test won't detect it

    habang may symptoms the test works better

    higher chance of false negative pag wala symptoms

    India's ICMR says the test isn't as sensitive as claimed sa etiketa
    Last edited by uls; September 2nd, 2020 at 01:20 PM.

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    #17287
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    When will start counting the days when you're asymptomatic?
    hirap niyan how can someone know when he got infected

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    #17288
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Is this even legal?

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    Sa Tetanus mamatay ang nakatira jan, hindi sa COVID.

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    #17289
    pwede naman hindi yero ang ilalagay...


    On the other hand... bukas na ang gym...goodluck!




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    #17290
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    pwede naman hindi yero ang ilalagay...


    On the other hand... bukas na ang gym...goodluck!




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    are those real pipol?
    ...they look like dummies...

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    #17291
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yup when there's too little virus at the time of the swab the test won't detect it

    habang may symptoms the test works better

    higher chance of false negative pag wala symptoms

    India's ICMR says the test isn't as sensitive as claimed sa etiketa
    People should also be reminded that the swab should be done by a professional so to increase the likely hood of getting the virus from the swab.

    i know some people who was able to get the blood Rapid test and do it themselves tapos hindi alam interpretation nung results.

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    #17292
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    are those real pipol?
    ...they look like dummies...
    Yes, got it from the video...

    Useless ang barrier if yung aerosol is around the place...


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    Kainan na!


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    #17294
    i don't see how dividers (or barriers or whatever they're called) can block the virus

    when infected people exhale/sneeze/cough, the virus goes to the air and you're all breathing the same stale air in an indoor space like a gym

    kahit ilan pa divider meron

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    #17295
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i don't see how dividers (or barriers or whatever they're called) can block the virus

    when iinfected people exhale, the virus goes to the air

    in an indoor space, you're all breathing the same stale air

    kahit ilan pa divider meron
    I think they are there just to make it look like the establishment followed the health protocol mandated by IATF.
    They might not be able to operate if they won't comply.

    Makakatulong talaga yung suggestion na dapat may exhaust fan para humigop sa mga stale air ng closed room establishment outside.
    Eto din sana ang ipapatupad ng IATF for these business establishments.

    Yung mga customer naman, if hindi ganito ang setup ng establishment, mas mabuting iwas nalang muna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Mann View Post
    thanks bro.

    eto yung info na binigay ng company namin:

    The Rapid Antigen Test detects certain proteins or glycans, such as spike proteins found
    on the surface of the SArS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus. A fluid sample is obtained using a
    nasal swab. Antigen tests can produce results in approximately 15 minutes. This test
    reveals if a person is currently infected with pathogens such as COVID-19, even on Day 1
    of the infection
    yup rapid antigen test looks for the virus unlike rapid antibody test

    you need to get swabbed (like for PCR) unlike rapid antibody test -- blood

    pero malayo ang sensitivity ng rapid antigen test sa PCR

    mataas daw false negative ng rapid antigen test

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    Herd immunity?

    Pakistan puzzles health experts as virus cases drop


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China Corona Virus Outbreak