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    #12301
    wanna see manipulation?

    Florida, Texas, and Georgia are holding down their coronavirus death count by declaring them as pneumonia deaths


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    how can we have real time data?

    isipin niyo nga ang proseso

    swab

    how long does it take for the swab to be delivered to a lab?

    pag dating sa lab, gaano katagal pipila ung swab bago aabot sa PCR machine?

    then how long does it take for the result to be encoded/printed whatever?

    then how long does it take for the data to reach DOH?

    real time data utot
    Agree with this.. other countries even have verification if positive or negative 3days after swabbing... how much more sa Pinas... ang pila is politician-vip-chinese-ordinary citizen... goodluck...

    the new cases can be 500, 1000 or 2000 sa dami ng backlog... ang real data is madami pa talaga ang positive sa pinas.... Pag sinabi nila na 200 new cases posible meron pang 5k or more positive na hindi pa na proprocess...


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    di ko alam anong manipulation ang sinasabi ng iba

    i can understand if you have 5000 new cases per day you wanna manipulate it downwards para di matakot ang mamamayan or para di lumabas na di kaya kontrolin ng gobyerno ang epidemic

    or do they mean manipulate the numbers upwards para i-maintain ang lockdown kasi meron daw mga nagbebenifit sa lockdown

    eh ung gobyerno nga gustong gusto ma-lift ang lockdown

    mga edukadong elitista ang ayaw ma-lift ang lockdown kasi hindi pa daw na-plat ang curve

    (at dahil puro work from home sila tuloy tuloy parin ang sweldo di apektado ng lockdown)

    if the gov't wanted to manipulate the data upwards, why stop at 500+ new cases?

    why not 1000+ new cases?
    Just what i though also... whats the big deal sa new 500cases? Expected naman na meron pang 100k na positive sa pinas...


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    #12304
    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    2 sa mga kasamahan ko dito ang umuwi dyan last may 20.
    - 6 hours daw naghintay sa airport bago dumating ang PCG/OWWA
    - pagkatapos ng swabbing ay dinala sila sa Lotus Hotel
    - yung iba 3 to 5 days ay labas na ang result at sila ay nakauwi na
    - yung isang kasama namin sa kumpanya ay nakalabas after 8 days
    - yung kasama ko sa project ay wala pa ang test result
    - ang mga ito ay iisang eroplano lang ang sinakyan

    ganito raw ang sistema - swab test by PCG, hotel allocation by OWWA, result at encoding by Red Cross, transport by DOTR.

    sabi ko nga sa kaibigan ko, kaya naman pala magulo dahil sa dami ng kusinero!
    Plus yung, insert politician-vip-chinese para sa result verification... instead 3-5days pero dahil sa politician-vip-chinese, nadedelayed depende on how many politician-vip-chinese need verify ang result...


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    #12305
    Wala naman nagsabi na nakakapag taka bakit tumaas? Yun data na yan kasi ginamit ng DOH to say na we're flattening the curve na. Eh hinde nga accurate dahil sa backlogs. So if based on numbers/backlogs hinde pa pala tayo nag peak.

    Issue is yun incompetency ng DOH.


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    #12306
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Hindi kasi technical people yang nasa DOH. Hindi tulad sa profession mo na you eat/validate/process/interpret data for breakfast.
    Alam naman nila yan na questionable ang method. Mga doktor na ang mga andiyan. Ever tried coming to see a GP/family doctor a month with lab test results a month after he/she told you to get them? Di ba papabalikin ka sa laboratory para ulitin yung mga test and show them to him/her ASAP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Just what i though also... whats the big deal sa new 500cases? Expected naman na meron pang 100k na positive sa pinas...


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    kaya ko lang napost yun kasi may nagsabi kinokontrol at minamanipulate ang data

    para ano?

    para majustify ang pag ease ng lockdown?

    the gov't went ahead anyway kahit may 500+ new confirmed cases on the day the president was to decide

    that didn't look like they were managing the data

    it looked more like the gov't was determined to ease the lockdown regardless of data

    if the gov't was managing the data pababa nang pababa sana ang numero

    -

    i believe the decision to ease the lockdown had more to do with pressure from the business sector than coronavirus numbers

    the decision had more to do with gov't seeing funds running low and tax revenue fall

    they were determined to ease the lockdown regardless ano numero lumabas
    Last edited by uls; May 29th, 2020 at 05:41 PM.

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    #12308
    Pano pag na overwhelm uli hospital, lockdown ulit

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    One can define flattening the curve a hundred ways but perception is reality. If people keep seeing a rise in positive cases, that won't help in convincing them that it is safe to go out again. They have no choice either but to report for work to earn a living while constantly suffering from paranoia of getting infected. Just imagine the mental anguish and the physical exhaustion from finding ways to commute. We will end up with lots of infected people with mental problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Pano pag na overwhelm uli hospital, lockdown ulit

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    yep and it's in the best interest of the gov't and business sector to not let that happen again
    Last edited by uls; May 29th, 2020 at 06:31 PM.

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    #12311
    Hope the government will take this into consideration.

    Majority of filipinos are not very objective and clinical.

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    #12312
    GCQ na!! Excited na St. Peter! ;)

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    #12313
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    GCQ na!! Excited na St. Peter! ;)

    _


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    Haha. Same lines from insurance companies posted on FB.

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    #12314
    Today's DOH daily count will be released at 8 pm from the usual 4 pm.



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    #12315
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Today's DOH daily count will be released at 8 pm from the usual 4 pm.


    Haha. Nabasa yata ang post ni yatta. [emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]

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    #12316
    We were sent the form that's mandated by DOLE to be filled by employees, ang dali dali magsinungaling dyan! I am not saying I will, but anyone who does NOT want to be quarantined will just check NO in all the questions. They need to TEST!

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    #12317
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    We were sent the form that's mandated by DOLE to be filled by employees, ang dali dali magsinungaling dyan! I am not saying I will, but anyone who does NOT want to be quarantined will just check NO in all the questions. They need to TEST!
    Wala ba test sa inyo? Yung mga kakilala ko na babalik ng work have/will undergo a rapid test. Required yata sya I don't know kung DOLE or city requirement lang.

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    #12318
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    the gov't secures another loan package from the world bank

    Error page

    ka-ching!

    *** can't find the article anymore. will try to find it again
    here's the correct link: Philippines: World Bank Approves US$5 Million to Help Mitigate Impact of COVID-19 Pandemic

    another $750m loan package from the beijing based asian infrastructure investment bank (aiib) in cooperation w/ asian dev't bank (adb) was
    approved and extended to the gov't today.

    China-led AIIB OKs $75-M loan to Philippine virus response program | Money | GMA News Online

    ding! ding! ding!
    Last edited by baludoy; May 29th, 2020 at 08:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Wala ba test sa inyo? Yung mga kakilala ko na babalik ng work have/will undergo a rapid test. Required yata sya I don't know kung DOLE or city requirement lang.

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    Sabi nga ni crush for an MNC nakakataka na they won't test!

    Marami pala TDK sa BF? Akala ko sa Multinational Village lang sila nagkumpulan. WTF talaga, I always drop by BF pa naman when I visit my maternal Lola at Manila Memorlal Park, dami kasi masasarap na food there :P

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    #12320
    MCQ story...

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