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    #31741
    Ang OCTA confuse narin
    Wala ng epekto lahat ng uri ng lockdown, hugas kamay.
    Gusto contact tracing , at hospital. Paano hahanapin ang ayaw pahanap at kung mahanap saang ospital ilalagay kung puno na lahat.


    OCTA sees granular lockdowns not effective | GMA News Online

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    #31742
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    What's going on with iatf? Many restaurants are preparing to open for dine in tomorrow even at limited seating capacity and yet the sudden change of stance of our quarantine status our government is not thinking ahead.

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    yes, nakaka-awa nga itong mga ito.

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    #31743
    Wala na rin man silbi ang MECQ restrictions still the same effect as any loosened restriction CQs. Kawawa talaga ang mga businesses, employees and its owners. Sayang effort on their preparations to reopen again. Dapat pagisipan ito ng IATF, MMDA, OCTA or any of these who decides to undo the restrictions earlier.

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    #31744
    i have question.
    has the latest lockdown significantly slowed down the spread of covid, as evidenced by the discovery numbers that are regularly published?
    i ask because i know not.

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    #31745
    Mahirap or mayaman apektado sa mga lockdown. Dito sa amin daming for sale na Hotels. Kasi walang tourist sobrang apektado businesses nila dami rin nawalan ng trabaho. Yung isa for sale nasa 1.2b pesos binebenta.

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    #31746
    i have question.
    has the latest lockdown significantly slowed down the spread of covid, as evidenced by the discovery numbers that are regularly published?
    i ask because i know not.
    di naman masyado strict ang lockdown that started on Aug 6 2021

    ECQ ang tawag pero it didn't look and feel like ECQ... malayong malayo sa March 2020 lockdown kung saan halos wala lumalabas halos walang sasakyan sa kalye

    every household has 1 or 2 people who can go out nahahawa mga yan at inuuwi sa bahay ang virus

    since this variant is highly contagious entire households are getting infected

    also higher hospitalization risk with this variant coz of high viral load kaya napuno mga ospital

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    #31747

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    #31748
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Ang OCTA confuse narin
    Wala ng epekto lahat ng uri ng lockdown, hugas kamay.
    Gusto contact tracing , at hospital. Paano hahanapin ang ayaw pahanap at kung mahanap saang ospital ilalagay kung puno na lahat.


    OCTA sees granular lockdowns not effective | GMA News Online
    Ayan ka nanaman, hinde OCTA ang nagsabi about contact tracing and hospital, it's someone from DOH. [emoji4]

    At saka meron point na hinde maging effective yan, ginagawa na naman ng mga LGU yan eh. ano bang bago sa granular lockdown? As if naman ngayon pa lang gagawin, yun lang gustong palabasin nila duterte saka mga engot niyang IATF.

    So paano gagawin sa granular lockdown lahat ng meron nag positve na household eh I lockdown, kalat na nga so bale halos buong city i lockdown din mangyayari.



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    Last edited by shadow; September 8th, 2021 at 06:52 AM.

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    #31749
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Wala na rin man silbi ang MECQ restrictions still the same effect as any loosened restriction CQs. Kawawa talaga ang mga businesses, employees and its owners. Sayang effort on their preparations to reopen again. Dapat pagisipan ito ng IATF, MMDA, OCTA or any of these who decides to undo the restrictions earlier.
    Duterte and IATF ang mga tanga.

    Sino ba nag decision maker? IATF mag gaw ng policy then approve nun engot.

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    Last edited by shadow; September 8th, 2021 at 06:54 AM.

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    #31750
    MECQ pero tuloy ang PDP LABAN assembly sa Pampanga?


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    #31751
    CanSinoBio is uses the same tech as AZN and J&J....


    Chinese vaccine producer CanSinoBIO said on Wednesday that it had not received any report of blood clots after vaccination of millions of people with its recombinant adenovirus vector COVID-19 vaccine, amid reports that inoculation has been halted in various countries for AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccines, which use the same technical method as CanSinoBIO's product.

    CanSinoBIO said that, although its vaccine uses the same technique, it uses different adenovirus than the other two companies. CanSinoBio uses adenovirus type-5 as vector, a common adenovirus among humans, while AstraZeneca uses chimpanzee adenovirus and Johnson & Johnson uses adenovirus type-26.
    Mixing CanSinoBIO, Sinovac COVID shots induces stronger response than Sinovac alone -study | Reuters
    Participants who received a CanSinoBIO booster dose three to six months after a second Sinovac shot showed a 78-fold jump on average in neutralizing antibody levels two weeks later, according to a paper published on Monday before a peer review.

    By contrast, those who received a Sinovac booster shot showed a 15.2-fold increase in neutralizing antibody levels, researchers from local disease control authorities, CanSinoBIO and other Chinese institutions said in the paper.

    One dose of Sinovac followed by a CanSinoBIO booster at intervals of one or two months led to a 25.7-fold increase in neutralising antibody levels, while two doses of Sinovac induced a 6.2-fold increase.
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    #31752
    Simple naman reason ung bakit ndi effectve ang recent ECQ at MECQ.

    Yung ECQ at MECQ kasi recently as mostly to determine kung kaya pa ba magbigay ng ayuda o hindi. Not really to restrict mobility and minimize exposure of people to the virus.

    Eh nagkalat mga tao sa labas kahit ECQ so imbes na bumaba ang daily cases, tumaas pa sa ATH.

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    #31753
    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Simple naman reason ung bakit ndi effectve ang recent ECQ at MECQ.

    Yung ECQ at MECQ kasi recently as mostly to determine kung kaya pa ba magbigay ng ayuda o hindi. Not really to restrict mobility and minimize exposure of people to the virus.

    Eh nagkalat mga tao sa labas kahit ECQ so imbes na bumaba ang daily cases, tumaas pa sa ATH.
    Yup. Dati ko pa sinasabi na pag melrn pang ayuda ECQ pag wala downgrade, kaya kalokohan yun hospitalization rate, posity at ibang matrix na sinasabi nila.


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    #31754
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde man lang GCQ with heightened restrictions? Mag de-escalate ang laki ng tinalon.


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    Hinde naman tayo matalino dito sa Tsikot pero yun common sense lang sana kahit konti meron itong si duterte saka mga tao niya. I posted this before they announced their retraction sa GCQ nila.

    Lockdown na lang tayo hanggang matapos term nitong unggoy na engot para pag tapos na parwng nagising lang tayo sa bangungungot.


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    #31755
    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Simple naman reason ung bakit ndi effectve ang recent ECQ at MECQ.

    Yung ECQ at MECQ kasi recently as mostly to determine kung kaya pa ba magbigay ng ayuda o hindi. Not really to restrict mobility and minimize exposure of people to the virus.

    Eh nagkalat mga tao sa labas kahit ECQ so imbes na bumaba ang daily cases, tumaas pa sa ATH.
    Pinaka effective lang naman talaga is yun pinaka unang ECQ. Ramdam mo talaga pag lumabas ka.

    Unlike now, label na lang talaga. Add that for some people nawala na yung takot since we are already doing this for almost 2 years.

    Yes partly to blame talaga is self discipline which is talagang napaka strong trait naten. (Sarcastic ito ha)

    Example dito sa residential area namin, never mo nakita ang barangay mag ikot, sumita nung mga dapat sitahin.

    If ikaw ang nasa Admin akala mo napakaganda ng pagkakasulat ng plano, eh lagi naman tayo diskaril sa implementation. Asahan mo pa ba disiplinahin ng tao sarili niya? Again not justifying pero yan ang reality.

    Mababaw appreciation ng most Pinoys, mag helmet, seatbelt, face mask and face shield yan kasi may nanghuhuli hindi dahil ito ay for safety.

    Sa data ng DOH okay pa hospitals natin.

    Father-in-law ng brother ko, 2 days ago bigla na lang nahirapan huminga add some flu like symptoms. All of us thinking Covid case. Spent the whole day kakahanap ng hospital, wala gusto tumanggap even ER tinatanggihan. All of us tried looking for a hospital, gladly may hospital sa QC tinanggap siya sa ER to address immediate need. Was also swabbed.

    The morning namatay na. Need niya ventilator, wala available ang hospital. Wala din malipatan talaga.

    Again it took him more than 12hrs to find and get admitted sa ER. Bulacan, pampanga and batangas na nga hinahanap ko na lilipatan wala din.


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    #31756
    wala halos lumabas ng bahay noong mar/apr/may 2020 ecq (lalo april*) coz people were truly afraid

    kakapanood lang ng mga video galing china ung mga bigla nagcocollapse

    i don't think it was coz gov't was effective in enforcing it -- it was coz people voluntarily stayed home coz they were scared... wiping everything with rubbing alcohol

    as months passed there was a realization it wasn't as bad as thought

    madami nagka-covid gumaling

    nawala ang takot

    naalala ko 2nd half of 2020 ung mga ayaw lumabas lumalabas na

    di na mauulit ung mar/apr/may 2020... it was an aberration


    *maximum fear
    Last edited by uls; September 8th, 2021 at 12:22 PM.

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    #31757
    mu variant is more resistant to convalescent plasma and BNT162b2 (pfizer vax) than all other VOI and VOC


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    #31758
    Yup, I think most people don't give a sh*t anymore. Overall survival rate is high and for the most part, the young and healthy are not the ones filling the hospital beds.

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    #31759
    Yung iba kong kilala, sabi sakin ang Covid parang malalang flu lang. Hindi sila maingat. Ayun, tinamaan yung dalawa. Nung may sakit, sinumpa na talaga ang Covid. Ngayon, balik sa dating gawi. Kaya naman daw pala. They represent the majority of pinoys.


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    #31760
    Quote Originally Posted by madball View Post
    Yup, I think most people don't give a sh*t anymore. Overall survival rate is high and for the most part, the young and healthy are not the ones filling the hospital beds.
    noong mar-apr-may 2020 there were less than 300 cases per day and everyone was afraid to go out

    ngayon more than 20,000 cases per day and people wanna eat at restos di lang pwede (kagalingan samgyupsal!)

    di kaya ng gobyerno ito

    kahit anong CQ BBQ

    di na takot mga tao

    kahit anong batikos sa gobyerno

    there's little the gov't can do

    try herding cats
    Last edited by uls; September 8th, 2021 at 01:05 PM.

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