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    #31682
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    lilipas din surge natin

    India and Indonesia have ramped up their vaccination... Millions shots a day.

    Tayo... Nga nga sa 1-2 millions na pagdating in a month.

    During the last week reported, Indonesia averaged about 1,162,424 doses administered each day.

    India gave six million jabs on an average every day in August, compared to 4.3 million daily jabs in July, according to official data.
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    Chilean health regulator approves Sinovac vax use among children over age 6

    The Chilean health regulator on Monday approved the COVID-19 vaccine produced by China’s Sinovac Biotech Ltd for use in children over 6 years of age, allowing more people to be included in the country’s rapid inoculation campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Nanakot meaning, hindi totoo talaga na nangyayari? Hindi sila overworked?

    Nabigla yata sila sa work nila… ngayon tad2 sila sa trabaho dahil pandemic straight for 1+ years…

    If tatanong natin to kay mr behaviourist na na banned before na si kags, baka may explanation siya dito…

    Uunahin ko na, san ba sila nag graduate ng school yan yung sasabihin nya..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    India and Indonesia have ramped up their vaccination... Millions vs close to a million a day.

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    but it's not mass vaccination during the surge that caused cases to fall

    it takes time for vaccine protection to kick in

    those who got vaccinated during the surge didn't suddenly become covid-proof

    and people still test positive kahit vaccinated

    during the peak of India'a surge less than 3% of their population were vaccinated... now it's 11%

    very far from Israel's vaccination rate but Israel is experiencing a surge
    Last edited by uls; September 7th, 2021 at 01:54 PM.

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    vaccine doesn't affect number of cases coz vaccine doesn't prevent infection

    swab pcr test will still detect sarscov2 RNA in your nose even if you're fully vaccinated

    what vaccine affects is number of deaths

    if you're looking at a graph you'll see upward slope (cases) and a flat line (deaths)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Nanakot meaning, hindi totoo talaga na nangyayari? Hindi sila overworked?

    Nabigla yata sila sa work nila… ngayon tad2 sila sa trabaho dahil pandemic straight for 1+ years…

    If tatanong natin to kay mr behaviourist na na banned before na si kags, baka may explanation siya dito…

    Uunahin ko na, san ba sila nag graduate ng school yan yung sasabihin nya..


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    Oo parang OCTA, nanakot sa projections nila pero lagi naman tama. [emoji854]


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    what do we prefer,
    a scarey prediction-maker that has consistently been shown to be reliably accurate?
    or a not-too-scary manghuhula with a lower-accuracy factor?

    personally,
    knowing correctly what we are up against, usually results in more victories on our part.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 7th, 2021 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    what do we prefer,
    a scarey prediction-maker that has consistently been shown to be reliably accurate?
    or a none-too-scary manghuhula with a lower-accuracy factor?
    What ever prediction that is, We prefer to have our normal lives back again doc…

    Or do we need to hire a change management specialist at this time? Kasi parang yung current happening is what the normalcy now… hirap mag adjust… limited lahat ng galaw…

    Pero Come to think of it, kung ito kaya yung normal nuon, mahihirap din kaya tayo mag adjust? From masking to no mask, from home buddy to dapat lumabas sa bahay and etc… hmm….


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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    What ever prediction that is, We prefer to have our normal lives back again doc…

    Or do we need to hire a change management specialist at this time? Kasi parang yung current happening is what the normalcy now… hirap mag adjust… limited lahat ng galaw…

    Pero Come to think of it, kung ito kaya yung normal nuon, mahihirap din kaya tayo mag adjust? From masking to no mask, from home buddy to dapat lumabas sa bahay and etc… hmm….


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    i am a strong believer that if everybody did what is expected of them, i.e., a honest practising of PPE and social distancing and other health practices, even if no one is watching, and voluntary surrender to quarantine authorities when they feel they might be harboring the virus,
    and humane and comfortable treatment ("attractive treatment") by quarantine authorities for covid victims that do not need serious hospitalization,
    we can probably considerably slow down and reverse the march of the virus.

    i personally feel that if we were to make it a pleasurable or comfortable experience in being quarantined,
    more folks would come out into the open and agree to be quarantined.

    i personally believe we have adequate facilities for conversion into quarantine facilities.
    the problem is perhaps the un-willingness or in-ability of some quarters to convert these existing facilities into quarantine facilities.

    my opinion.

    btw,
    a colleague chimed in,
    "sometimes, it is not the lack of facilities that make opening of covid care facilities possible. rather, it is the lack of trained personnel to man them."
    Last edited by dr. d; September 7th, 2021 at 02:46 PM.

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    madami yan ang kinakatakot.. may nararamdaman pero ayaw mag pa test kasi nga baka positive eh ma under quarantine.. tapos alam nila na kung walang space, eh pupunta sa facility na alam natin na di maganda..

    kaya yung iba magtatago na lang sa bahay.. tapos huli na malalaman nila kalat na virus at damay damay na

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    madami yan ang kinakatakot.. may nararamdaman pero ayaw mag pa test kasi nga baka positive eh ma under quarantine.. tapos alam nila na kung walang space, eh pupunta sa facility na alam natin na di maganda..

    kaya yung iba magtatago na lang sa bahay.. tapos huli na malalaman nila kalat na virus at damay damay na
    natumpakan mo, sir!

    if we make it not-a-hassle to be quarantined,
    that the place is comfortable, and the food is good,
    and that one can always contact one's loved ones by cellphone..
    eh baka mag-sikuhan ang mga nais magpa-quarantine.

    ... no one will feel they are being sentenced to the gulag archipelago.

    i wonder,
    is the rizal memorial sports stadium along vito cruz in manila, functional as a quarantine facility? how're the facilities? how many "inmates"? the food?

    apologies for "inmates". some attempt at levity. heh heh.
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    this is good news for my stepbro and pamangkin if it happens here and in NZ.

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    #31695
    i think,
    part of the confusion is the use of too many letters and numbers of various combinations.

    if the original designers of the nomenclature had ease of understanding and remembrance in mind,
    then i must emphatically accuse them that they failed miserably in their objectives at ease of remembrance.

    they must come up with an easier method for easy recall.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 7th, 2021 at 03:54 PM.

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    this should be called

    GCQHR.

    isa din yang MMDA. they are unclear as IATF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Oo parang OCTA, nanakot sa projections nila pero lagi naman tama. [emoji854]


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    A few loud ones here kasi nagalit before sa “fear-mongering” daw ng OCTA and media. Suggestion of the the few is tumahimik na raw ang OCTA amd media from projecting the numbers and new variants.
    Pati nga itsura ng mga octa people pinagtawanan. Parang style ni duts.
    Ang hindi nila alam is OCTA gets their numbers from DOH!! And they just do their statistics based on them!!
    Then lumalabas ngayon na all along is tama ang projections nila!

    Mali ang sinisi nila sa pandemic na ito. They’re shooting at the messenger lang and not the source of all these palpak response - Dutae and his government!.
    -ECQ/GCQ pero pangit na quarantine facilities
    -kulang ayuda pero tuloy ang dolomite beach
    -kulang sa free testing pero tinira pa ang Red Cross
    -corruption sa DOH & DBM sa overpriced masks and faceshields pero tinira pa itsura ng senators. Dinefend pa chinese friend nya.
    - hindi binigay HCW benefits kahit may budget pero slashed budgets pa ang PGH at RITM sa 2022 at patayo ng monument para sa HCW
    - corruption in overpriced Sinovac vaccines! Bili ni duts is 700 per dose pero in other countries it’s only $5

    Palpak sa drugs, palpak sa pagka pro-China, palpak sa corruption, palpak sa pandemic response! Tapos gusto pa maging VP! Poor Philippines ulit


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    i think someone already said it,
    "can octa help it, if they are more credible than the others?"

    then there's this,
    "octa and doh may be using the same set of numbers, but they might have different agendae."

    and there's this,
    "science does not lie nor take sides. humans do that."

    dr. mcCoy probably said it all, "data do not speak. data just lie there, waiting to be picked up."
    Last edited by dr. d; September 7th, 2021 at 04:16 PM.

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    #31700
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    but it did not answer the underlying question,
    "are face shields really significantly useful?"
    by now, after over 1 and a half years of covid, someone should already have an answer, one way or the other.

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