China Corona Virus Outbreak

[bloowolf]

I totally agree! [emoji23] Yung mga marunong pa sa doctor (the audacity) at western medicine, wag pupunta ng hospital.



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I have a friend, a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer & pro-ivm who advises people on how to treat themselves in case they experience covid symptoms (which, btw is present in most viral diseases not covid) & claims a high success rate. He even claims that MMC drs have been giving their covid patients ivm on the sly because of its high efficiency but wasn’t approved by the FDA then. He even had the audacity to say that one pathologist who passed on a couple of months back would have survived had he taken it. The drs in the group were so triggered by it.

I would suspect that people like these are to blame for the low vax compliance & high morbidity of covid.


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[ray_noel]

I know a friend also, his parents dont believe in covid however when they acquired the virus, they requested to be hospitalized and now in oxygen… ohhh well, nasa huli ang pagsisisi…


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[bugsmobile]

Hahaha naku ang daming mga “experts”. Mga mas marunong pa sa mga may alam kasi may nabasa or na na research sila sa internet.

[misseksaherada]

Sana may plan yung government na ganito na lang ang gamitin para mabilis malaman, mas maaagapan (adjustment sa mga taong bahala na lifestyle..).. Tapos sana subsidized kaysa yung pupunta ka pa ng c19 test clinics/lab bukod sa hassle na ang mahal pa.. yung test kits abot kaya na, madali pa gawin (less hassle) at pwede pa mag stock sa bahay..
Dapat din meron na proper waste disposal nung mga test kits na yan, same din sa mga face masks, face shield at PPEs.. hindi dapat nakahalo lang sa ibang basura..
Naalala ko lang concern ko sa basura dahil sa balita na bagong mobile app na "trash to cash".. Sana nga ma-implement ito nationwide.. Hindi maging ningas kugon (yung SM dati, nawala na yung plastic bags pero ngayon balik uli sa dating gawi).. Asan na ang reusable bags? Dapat sa pinto palang ng mall naka balandra na sa pinto na kapag wala kang reusable bags uwi ka or bibili ka ng mahal.. (no to brown/paper bags din sana)..

meron

rapid antigen test... last year pa meron

(swab)

ito test ko last saturday

[Deestone]

So are there any study on covid positive patient? Where did they get the virus? I tell you people I know who keeps on working since March 2020 lockdown who never got covid from high risk areas one is from supermarket always crowded with people and he talks to them since he is customer assistant another one elevator operator which is also high risk since there is just this 4sqm area inside the elevator and finally a waiter in a restaurant. They have never been covid positive or at least showed symptoms of covid virus.

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[Papajamba]

So are there any study on covid positive patient? Where did they get the virus? I tell you people I know who keeps on working since March 2020 lockdown who never got covid from high risk areas one is from supermarket always crowded with people and he talks to them since he is customer assistant another one elevator operator which is also high risk since there is just this 4sqm area inside the elevator and finally a waiter in a restaurant. They have never been covid positive or at least showed symptoms of covid virus.

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Usually airborne transmission especially when:
- eating together
- talking, coughing, shouting

Kaya better not to eat together. (I know of both parents of sibling cops who died after they had a New year’s salo-salo. [emoji22] nasa dulo ang pagsisisi)
Always wear a mask (better if n95 esp sa maraming tao) so you cant inhale the floating virus in the air.
Open a window especially sa offices or where there’s lots of people.

Original strain of the virus had to have 15 minute exposure for transmission pero ngayon itong delta, a few seconds lang.
Swerte lang ibang tao na hindi sila nahahawa by pure luck or natural resistance.


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[uls]

Sana may plan yung government na ganito na lang ang gamitin para mabilis malaman, mas maaagapan (adjustment sa mga taong bahala na lifestyle..).. Tapos sana subsidized kaysa yung pupunta ka pa ng c19 test clinics/lab bukod sa hassle na ang mahal pa.. yung test kits abot kaya na, madali pa gawin (less hassle) at pwede pa mag stock sa bahay..

ayaw kasi ng gobyerno natin mag self test mga tao

maganda nga ung self monitoring para alam mo ang iyong status... para pag positive ka di ka na pumasok para di ka makahawa

other countries allow/encourage people to self test

forward to 6:30

[bloowolf]

Forwarded

Prime Minister of Isreal Naftali Bennett issued the following statement to the media:

Good evening. I have chosen to speak with you this evening because we are at a decisive moment that will determine how our country will look in the coming period.

It is in our hands to choose whether to act responsibly and have an open and free country, or to stick our head in the sand and – Heaven forbid – bring about endless lockdowns, again.

Our goal is clear: To safeguard health and daily routine, to maintain the Israeli economy, properly open the school year and safeguard public health. It is possible.

The first waves of the coronavirus cost us 6,430 dead, approximately 200 days of lockdown, the loss of a school year and severe economic harm.

The world is currently in the eye of the storm of the Delta pandemic and the entire world is turning red. Even the Olympics, for the first time in history, are being held without spectators.

The easiest thing for me would be to close down the country; however, our compass is different at the moment: We want to have an open and safe country. We are conducting this campaign responsibly, with consideration and on the basis of facts and data.

First, what is the difference between the coronavirus pandemic and the Delta pandemic? Delta patients carry, in their bodies, 1,000 times the viral load and Delta multiplies and spreads much quicker than the original coronavirus.

If it was possible to block the original coronavirus with vaccines alone, in the Delta wave, the government has built a plan with three layers of protection: The vaccines layer, the layer of protecting the older population and the layer of masks.

First, the vaccines layer.

Our challenge is clear: That all Israelis who can get vaccinated – will go to get vaccinated. Every citizen aged 12 and older who has no health impediment to getting vaccinated –

Go get vaccinated.

Go get vaccinated.

I want to insist on one point: There are many countries in which there are not enough vaccines for the population and the public is crying out. Here, the Government of Israel has invested billions so that vaccines will be available everywhere in the country.

And yet there are still one million Israelis who simply refuse to get vaccinated. Even for young people over age 12, we have seen to a continuity of the necessary stocks of vaccines; however, there are still over 600,000 young people up to age 30 who have yet to get vaccinated.

I respect different views but there is a time and a place in which this discussion needs to stop – and it is our very lives.

The science is unequivocal: The vaccines work. They are effective and safe, almost completely for young people. For the older population, they are effective but not enough. Over one billion people around the world have already been vaccinated.

Dear citizens, those who refuse vaccines are endangering their health, those around them and the freedom of every Israeli citizen. They are endangering our freedom to work, the freedom of our children to learn and the freedom to hold celebrations with the family.

Those who refuse vaccines hurt us all because if all of us were vaccinated, we would all be able to maintain daily life. But if one million Israelis continue to not get vaccinated, this will oblige the eight million others to shut themselves in their homes.

Therefore, the Corona Cabinet decided today that as of 8 August, those who refuse vaccines will not be able to go to the cinema, the theater, the synagogue, the amusement park, the soccer game or any activity with over 100 people, indoors or out, unless they bring negative results from a coronavirus test, at their expense. Yes, they will fully bear the costs of the test.

There is no reason why the taxpayers and people who have carried out their civic duty and have been vaccinated should finance tests for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

Regarding flights, people who have been vaccinated will be able to fly to the clean countries and return; after they receive negative test results in Israel, they will be exempt from quarantine.

But on the other hand, those who refuse to get vaccinated will enter quarantine for a week, no matter what country they will have returned from. These actions will help us block the morbidity. From here, I appeal to everyone who knows someone who refuses to get vaccinated: Persuade them. Explain to them that they will not hurt others. Persuade and explain – do not give up.

The second layer is protecting the elderly and the vulnerable in Israel.

The State of Israel is currently providing the strongest protection in the world to approximately 120,000 elderly in geriatric hospitals and retirement homes. Every Israeli citizen should be proud of this exemplary action that is upholding Psalm 79:1, 'Do not cast me off in time of old age'.

Regarding the remaining elderly, who can look after themselves, they are responsible for being doubly cautious in watching themselves. Meet with the grandchildren, but outside in the open air, with masks. Just as you remember, we all look after grandmother and grandfather.

The third layer, the layer of masks, depends only on you, on us. Masks have been proven scientifically effective especially in protecting yourselves and those around you.

When two people wear masks, with all of the viral load that we mentioned, the likelihood goes down by 98%.

Therefore, every citizen must wear a mask in closed spaces. This is not a recommendation, this is a legal requirement.

My friends, in conclusion, if we get vaccinated, mind the older population and wear masks, we will overcome the Delta strain.

The coming year will be one of an economic jump forward, a year of rebuilding and of exiting the crisis. It will simply be a good year.

Thank you very much.


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[bloowolf]

Spock says, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Captain Kirk answers, “Or the one.”


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[uls]

parang kailan lang Israel ended their mask mandate

[dr. d]

I totally agree! [emoji23] Yung mga marunong pa sa doctor (the audacity) at western medicine, wag pupunta ng hospital.



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pagbigyan nyo na!
they have seen the light.

[bloowolf]

parang kailan lang Israel ended their mask mandate

As the virus changes, so do the rules.


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[dr. d]

As the virus changes, so do the rules.


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in exasperation, the MD exhaled,
"how can we win against an adversary that keeps changing the rules!"

[bloowolf]

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[dr. d]

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hahahaha!

totoo nga...!

[Papajamba]

Delta has changed a lot of things dahil sa viral load nya.
Bumaba virus resistance ng vaxxed kaya need to mask up again and they can transfer the virus.
At least the US CDC observed it and advised the world about it early.

Local hospitals natin have observed that 90-98% of admitted cases are unvaxxed.
Less than 10% din are kids 18 yo and younger.


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[ale828]

So are there any study on covid positive patient? Where did they get the virus? I tell you people I know who keeps on working since March 2020 lockdown who never got covid from high risk areas one is from supermarket always crowded with people and he talks to them since he is customer assistant another one elevator operator which is also high risk since there is just this 4sqm area inside the elevator and finally a waiter in a restaurant. They have never been covid positive or at least showed symptoms of covid virus.

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During the lockdown and towards the end of 2020, i tried getting some first hand information from the people i know who got covid.
Most of them was cooperative in telling the truth and seem to point to several instances where they might have gotten it.
All of them seem to have had 1 common factor.
They had put down the mask one time or another while outside their homes and inside enclosed space. Most of them to eat or drink, some to scratch a itchy nose/face.
I also had a few 2nd hand accounts of seniors not going out yet getting covid due to maids/drivers who are the ones infecting the seniors.

[uls]

As the virus changes, so do the rules.


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when i saw posts/photos in May/June re Israel returning to normal i wanted to comment that they're celebrating too early

nanahimik nalang ako kasi baka sabihin kj ako

well, they celebrated too early

countries shouldn't declare victory over covid just coz they got their own cases down

as long as other countries are experiencing outbreaks sooner or later dadating sa kanila yan

when India was experiencing the surge in Apr/May other countries were like "that's India's problem"

haha problema ng buong mundo yan

[uls]

wala ba local anecdotal report that patients are dying faster?



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may narinig ako 2 days after sore throat patay

[Little Missy]

I've been seeing articles that kids now are getting hospitalized because of covid whereas before hindi naman common yung ganun cases. Yung close friend ko has a 2 year old inaanak na meron covid ngayon.

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