spanish flu versus wuhan virus.
apples and oranges, po.
two different viruses.
two different technologies.
but one type of people?
even back in 1918,
the world was just starting to pick itself up from the ravages of war,
and governments hid the fact that their countries were stricken...
because it was "bad for business".
heh heh.
Just for the sake of benchmarking our performance globally compared to 1918…
if we reach 2 years, lockdowns, vaccines and etc still coming, for me 1918 handle it better…
You said they just picked themselves up from war last 1918 yet they concluded pandemic in 2years…
Matagal pa ito if aabot pa sa star constellation ang pag pangalan ng mga variants…
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Only time will tell if we handled the covid virus here now better than they did the spanish flu in 1918.
hard to compare that since conditions and key factors are different in 1918 and 2020.
Population density and mobility is key factors in the spread of the virus.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/08/...-moderna-doses
More Moderna doses. Some of them will be given to Razon and ICTSI.According to the National Task Force Against COVID-19, 224,400 Moderna doses will be given to the Philippine government, while the remaining 102,000 will be given to the International Container Terminal Services, Inc.
Noong 1918 wala pa PCR test and genome sequencing
there was no test for flu (actually during that time they didn't even know there was such thing as flu) they thought the sickness was caused by bacteria
during that time it's either you're sick (have symptoms) or you're not (no symptoms)
di tulad ngayon kahit wala ka sintomas pwede ka mabilang sa "cases" dahil meron machine nakaka detect ng viral fragments galing sa iyong ilong
imagine kung walang pcr test ngayon
ang laki ng maibababa sa bilang ng cases diba?
imagine kung may pcr test noong 1918
pati mga wala sintomas madedetect nila
do you think the pandemic would have ended in 1920 if they had all this technology?
baka 1925 na nag sa-swab parin sila at sini-sequence mga sample
tingin ko di matatapos itong covid pandemic coz they will keep swabbing and testing people for covid
and they'll keep tracking SARSCOV2's evolution and keep naming variants
Last edited by uls; August 9th, 2021 at 12:25 AM.
"an unthinkable 50 million to one hundred million people died as a result of the spanish flue of 1918."
the humen didn't really do anything back in 1918, except to make body counts.
patay kung patay, buhay kung buhay.
survival was left largely to the individual's immune system.
there were no diagnostic tests, no vaccines, no antibiotics, no ivermectins, no antivirus medications, no ICUs as we know them today, no coordinated pandemic activities.
it is fortunate that the virus "spontaneously decided to leave as a pandemic".
experts believe it morphed into what we now know as the "seasonal flu". experts believe our current seasonal influenza viruses are the descendants of the survivors of that 1918 pandemic.
some theorize that the spanish flue of 1918 inexplicably disappeared, because it ran out of suitable victims.
i do hope the covid 19 virus soon mutates itself into something as innocuous...
Last edited by dr. d; August 9th, 2021 at 01:33 AM.
We're told that once we reach a certain number of vaccinated there will be herd immunity
nope
vaccine only reduces severityElías Eyþórsson *eliaseythorsson Aug 7
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Iceland (93% of the population 16 years of age or older vaccinated) is experiencing its largest wave of Covid-19 yet. At this point, I think it is unreasonable to assume that increased vaccine coverage will result in herd immunity
breakthrough infections are not rareOn the bright side, a much larger proportion of those infected have minimal or no symptoms, and fewer patients with Covid-19 are being admitted.
the virus isn't going awayOne thing the world might learn from Iceland is that breakthrough infections are NOT rare. We have a robust track&trace system with mandatory quarantine and double testing of quarantined persons. In this setting, most infections are diagnosed in vaccinated persons
the message is vaccine prevents severe symptoms
but the virus is already part of humanity it won't disappear
Last edited by uls; August 9th, 2021 at 08:49 AM.
the vaccines they made don't provide sterilizing immunity (the vaccinated don't become dead end hosts)
so the virus will keep circulating
this pandemic won't end in 2 years like spanish flu
good morning
Most likely but where you will be vaccinated will depend on the allocation for your company and your arrangement with the Razon group.
If the allocation is large enough, the vaccines can be delivered directly to the company. In our case, if we reach the required allocation, our vaccination will be at the company's premises and using our company's nominated vaccinators. Storage is no problem also as the company has the required cold storage capacity and specifications. In the first shipment that arrived last month and since we did not reach the required minimum allocation, the priority staff were given the option to have the vaccination at Solaire. Some took this option. Hopefully this time, puede na sa company premises.
Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS
the effects of the current lockdown won't be known until after the lockdown.
the "new cases" we are seeing now, were most likely acquired before the current lockdown went into effect. at that time, we were probably scurrying around more than the usual, preparing for the looming lockdown.