China Corona Virus Outbreak

[bloowolf]

In the places I go to, those who do manual labor are the ones greatly affected by wearing masks. Did you know that when those masks get soaked with sweat, you cannot breath through it. It’s useless. So, the workers do not mask anymore. I bring along a box of masks for those I have to work in close proximity to.


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[shadow]

pag ECQ dapat wala magtitinda sa palengke, wala pasok supermarket

wala pasok bangko... pag nag offline wala mag aayos, pag naubos cash sa atm wala mag rereplenish

pati meralco wala pasok dapat

pag nagbrownout wala mag aayos

Hinde ECQ yan, walking dead sinabi mo. [emoji23]


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[BlancNoir]

In the places I go to, those who do manual labor are the ones greatly affected by wearing masks. Did you know that when those masks get soaked with sweat, you cannot breath through it. It’s useless. So, the workers do not mask anymore. I bring along a box of masks for those I have to work in close proximity to.


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As long as there is good ventilation, meaning opean area, may proper air flow, then i think it should be fine.
Mga workers namin sa province ayaw mag mask for the exact same reason, pero giniba namin ibang walls to improve airflow sa mga bodega and seympre, observe proper social distancing pa rin.
And bawal kumumpol sa isang area para mag kwentuhan sa idle time nila.

[bloowolf]

More reasons to het vaccinated

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mask-guidance/


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[bloowolf]

As long as there is good ventilation, meaning opean area, may proper air flow, then i think it should be fine.
Mga workers namin sa province ayaw mag mask for the exact same reason, pero giniba namin ibang walls to improve airflow sa mga bodega and seympre, observe proper social distancing pa rin.
And bawal kumumpol sa isang area para mag kwentuhan sa idle time nila.

Problema ko, I have to work in close proximity to them. There was an epidemic of the flu in that place once. Even with a mask, I got a mild infection, quarantined & swabbed just in case.


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[uls]

Hinde ECQ yan, walking dead sinabi mo. [emoji23]


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oo ung parang end-of-civilization dystopia

ung wala mag me-maintain ng lahat ng infrastructure (telecom, power, financial) hayaan mag breakdown/deteriorate

wala food production, retail, logistics... nothing, zero, nada

bawal lahat ng tao lumabas NO EXCEPTIONS (100% true lockdown)

ganyan dapat para mag dalawang isip mga mahilig mag suggest ng lockdown

[BlancNoir]

Problema ko, I have to work in close proximity to them. There was an epidemic of the flu in that place once. Even with a mask, I got a mild infection, quarantined & swabbed just in case.


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yeah, kaka praning nga magkasakit esp ngayon.

[shadow]

oo ung parang end-of-civilization dystopia

ung wala mag me-maintain ng lahat ng infrastructure (telecom, power, financial) hayaan mag breakdown/deteriorate

wala food production, retail, logistics... nothing, zero, nada

bawal lahat ng tao lumabas NO EXCEPTIONS (100% true lockdown)

ganyan dapat para mag dalawang isip mga mahilig mag suggest ng lockdown

Hinde tanga gobyerno, diba hinde nga sila takot kahit kanino? Sa OCTA lang tutupi sila? I'm sure they've seen the data and it's not good kaya nag ECQ.

Sa mga politiko they will not cross with church and media pero tingnan mo naman si dutiti, lahat yan binangga.

Sino ba naman ang OCTA to dictate sa gobyerno.


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[shadow]

Makipag compromise ako kay *uls medyo ibahin nila yun 2 weeks ECQ, yun mga meron vaccination card at complete na lang ang payagan lumabas pag unvaccinated pa yun ang mga total lockdown dapat.

I-condition na nila mga tao.




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[_Cathy_]

Makipag compromise ako kay *uls medyo ibahin nila yun 2 weeks ECQ, yun mga meron vaccination card at complete na lang ang payagan lumabas pag unvaccinated pa yun ang mga total lockdown dapat.

I-condition na nila mga tao.


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Sa US may restaurants na na bawal pumasok unvaccinated. I would avail of vaccines by the company pero parang di ako agree with companies forcing their employees to vaccinate. Dati kasi sa flu talagang ayoko and they can't make me vaccinate

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[ray_noel]

which is why i believe that lockdowns do not make a significant and permanent dent in our outcomes.
what will probably have a more effective, significant, and more permanent effect, would be an honest-to-goodness change in our personal protection habits.
change has to come from within us, to be effective.
change that is dictated from without us, is effective only for as long as the enforcing agent is present.

Waley pinoy nyan doc… siguro minority lang yung nagfofollow sa covid safety…


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[ale828]

Makipag compromise ako kay *uls medyo ibahin nila yun 2 weeks ECQ, yun mga meron vaccination card at complete na lang ang payagan lumabas pag unvaccinated pa yun ang mga total lockdown dapat.

I-condition na nila mga tao.

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Dapat allow nila gawin yung Vaccination card as a Quarantine pass.
Or bibigyan ka lang ng Quarantine pass pag vaccinated ka na.

[uls]

Hinde tanga gobyerno, diba hinde nga sila takot kahit kanino? Sa OCTA lang tutupi sila? I'm sure they've seen the data and it's not good kaya nag ECQ.

Sa mga politiko they will not cross with church and media pero tingnan mo naman si dutiti, lahat yan binangga.

Sino ba naman ang OCTA to dictate sa gobyerno.


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pag di nag lockdown at naoverwhelm mga ospital at madami mamatay (india scenario), sisisihin ng mga tao ang gobyerno bakit di sumunod sa rekomendasyon ng octa

sundin nalang para la masabi mga tao

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i think gov't wanted to weather the delta surge with minimal disruption to the economy kaya GCQ with heightened restrictions

pero natakot din sa magiging batikos pag nangyari ang india scenario pag di mag lockdown

[uls]

the power of imagery -- videos and photos from india's surge put fear into governments of other countries

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lakas ng loob ni Boris Johnson

despite warnings from epidemiologists, the UK still removed restrictions even during their delta surge

so far india scenario did not happen in UK

[jut703]

pag di nag lockdown at naoverwhelm mga ospital at madami mamatay (india scenario), sisisihin ng mga tao ang gobyerno bakit di sumunod sa rekomendasyon ng octa

sundin nalang para la masabi mga tao

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i think gov't wanted to weather the delta surge with minimal disruption to the economy kaya GCQ with heightened restrictions

pero natakot din sa magiging batikos pag nangyari ang india scenario pag di mag lockdown

Metro Manila Mayors ALL agreed to go into ECQ. Hindi lang siya OCTA push.

This is firsthand info from a friend of mine in the IATF. The move to ECQ was decided last night lang.


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[BratPAQ]

Metro Manila Mayors ALL agreed to go into ECQ. Hindi lang siya OCTA push.

This is firsthand info from a friend of mine in the IATF. The move to ECQ was decided last night lang.


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Dahil dito kaya hindi kagad nag ECQ. [emoji23]

'''Wala pala akong volume''': Why ECQ proposal didn'''t reach Duterte

[uls]

as a gov't facing delta surge...

you shut down a recovering economy which stretches the recovery timeline even longer

or you don't shut down the economy and risk an india scenario delta surge



no lockdown delta surge

[kagalingan]

ang pagkakaiba ng healthworker sa ibang bansa at sa pinas.

one of my homies sa international health forum.

Jun 28, 2021

I'm not sure where all the fear is coming from with exposure to COVID and people who have been vaccinated.

I am a nurse. Some of my closest friends are nurses, my girlfriend is a nurse, my sister is a nurse, and my step mom is nurse. All of us worked throughout the pandemic on COVID units. At some point throughout the year I lived in the same residence with each of these people for weeks or months at a time, with all of us being exposed to COVID patients and vaccinated staff members. We all worked with vented and/ or patients with tracheostomies who had COVID. I personally took COVID patients blood, cleaned their stool, and their urine, suctioned their tracheostomies so they could breath, tested them, and gave them nebulizer drugs. Throughout the entire COVID situation I had minimal access to N95 masks. The first N95 mask I got was in October 2020. Prior to that, when I was doing all the aforementioned actions I wore a simple surgical mask; one that I was told to reuse for 7 days before I could get a new one. For a period of time we were even reusing PPE because of the shortage of equipment. Quite a few times I had no PPE at all. These scenarios are the same for my friends and family.

Also, all of us worked with vaccinated people in close situations. At one point I performed CPR on a COVID patient who had received a COVID vaccine, with a staff of nurses where some were vaccinated. Regardless of how much PPE you have on, when you hop on the hospital bed and start compressing some guys chest to circulate his blood for him, your exposed to whatever he has, and the 20 other people in the room have as well.

Not once did myself or any of my family or friends get sick, or present with any of the symptoms. None of us have tested positive for COVID throughout the entire COVID situation. Most of the people in my experience who had COVID were old people with serious comorbidities, and very obese/ unhealthy young people. Even with that said some of the elderly people I worked with in their 70's and 80's had COVID with minimal symptoms if any at all. I don't think you can get more exposed to COVID and vaccinated individuals than I, my family, and my friends have.

With all that exposure I'm just not seeing the health problems that are supposed to be occurring... We have been exposed to COVID since the beginning in March/ April of 2020. We have been exposed to vaccinated individuals since they first rolled them out in early 2021 (We were some of the first people offered the vaccine). All of us haven't really had any health issues out of the norm, and this is despite working 12-14 hours shifts, some of us working night shifts, not eating throughout the entire shift, encountering significant stress throughout the shift, etc.; basically we weren't in ideal "healthy environments".

Now this all isn't to say that information could come out to show that everyday contact with vaccinated people could be dangerous, but I just haven't seen that so far. And if I did, I wouldn't have a problem changing my mind. I also haven't seen, in my personal experience, contact with COVID patients to be that big of a deal overall either.

As for the Fleming protocol you listed, I don't think I'd ever use it. Too many powerful drugs with questionable side effect profiles. I think using this protocol for someone who happened to be exposed to people who had been vaccinated, is dangerous. I'd prefer to take my chances with safer compounds often discussed on this forum.

(Although to be fair I have personally used Ivermectin for parasitic issues before, and am aware of its general safety profile. Although, I don't know if I would use it on a consistent basis. The dosing for parasitic issues is often one or two doses at a time maybe a couple times a year, depending on the endemic parasitic disease.)

tsikoteers, kung ang information na sinusundan nyo about health eh st lukes, octashits, doh, fda eh mamalasin talaga kayo.

Ako way back pang international na so my heads up sa ganito bagay. Remember IM IN MY 40s and NO MAINTENANCE DRUGS.

Pati mga kaibigan ko dito sa true qc iniifluensyahan ko na nga eh.

[kagalingan]

As long as there is good ventilation, meaning opean area, may proper air flow, then i think it should be fine.
Mga workers namin sa province ayaw mag mask for the exact same reason, pero giniba namin ibang walls to improve airflow sa mga bodega and seympre, observe proper social distancing pa rin.
And bawal kumumpol sa isang area para mag kwentuhan sa idle time nila.

Whos the man blanky??? Top school ba nag-aral or pagimik-gimik lang nung college

#Say my name, say my name

[dr. d]

ang pagkakaiba ng healthworker sa ibang bansa at sa pinas.

one of my homies sa international health forum.





tsikoteers, kung ang information na sinusundan nyo about health eh st lukes, octashits, doh, fda eh mamalasin talaga kayo.

Ako way back pang international na so my heads up sa ganito bagay. Remember IM IN MY 40s and NO MAINTENANCE DRUGS.

Pati mga kaibigan ko dito sa true qc iniifluensyahan ko na nga eh.

so how do you know you're not being taken for a ride?