China Corona Virus Outbreak

[glenn_duke]

Just wondering ano ang intention ng OCTA? Pahirapan at palhbugin Pilipinas? Eh diba nag lockdown din naman sa abroad? Lalo na mga mababa pa rate ng vaccination like OZ fore example talo pa natin sila sa roll out.


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May pera sila tayo wala, marami sa kanila may savings, tayo maraming isang kahig isang tuka. Pag nangutang ng pera gobierno dami reklamo, ongoing pa covid.
Ang health ng workers wala sa magkaka covid o hindi, nasa mind and physical condition nila yan, mental conditon, may trabaho less stress, physical condition = may trabaho, kumakain ng 3x a day.

Yang OCTA samahan ng mga jobless na magaling gumimik mga yan, may prob stats ba sila kung asan ang economy tuwing magpapa lockdown sila?

[Lew_Alcindor]

Just wondering ano ang intention ng OCTA? Pahirapan at palhbugin Pilipinas? Eh diba nag lockdown din naman sa abroad? Lalo na mga mababa pa rate ng vaccination like OZ fore example talo pa natin sila sa roll out.


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OCTA bases their recommendations on their models. It is an informed decision.
Whether lockdown o hinde ang reco nila, it based on their projections of infections.

Do their recommendation consider the effect on the economy? Not sure. But for me, this economy wont flourish with a sick population. Kahit anong open mo sa economy, future surges will bring it down again if the virus is not contained. Basic problem tree analysis lang yan. Virus is the problem, down economy is the effect. You solve the cause, not the effect.

[uls]

this is strange...
aren't they all looking at the same figures...?

OCTA doesn't have to think about the economy but the gov't does

those people at octa don't have skin in the game

they're a bunch of theoricians permanently working from home madali para sa kanila magsabi "hoy lockdown na!"

[Lew_Alcindor]

this is strange...
aren't they all looking at the same figures...?

We dont know. Someone ask Dr. Edsel sa FB about data and projections. He said is it presented weekly to IATF but NOT RELEASED TO PUBLIC. Typical bad governance under this administration.

[glenn_duke]

Pag nag nagbigay ang doctor ng treatment regimen para gamutin ang isang sakit, tinitingnan din niya kung kakayanin ng pasyente ang side effects. Dahil pwedeng side effect pa pumatay sa pasyente.
Yan hindi alam ng OCTA ganyan sila ka ta#$a.

[uls]

OA ang australia

goal nila zero covid pareho sila ng new zealand

ang pinas parang amerika, uk

di zero covid ang goal

live with the virus

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ung oz meron sila concept na tinatawag na "fortress austraila"

ung eliminate every covid case inside and preventing covid outside from entering

they were able to do that last year

so ano na australia? musta ung fortress australia niyo?

Forget fortress Australia; UK, US and Europe are back: travel boss

Flight Centre boss Graham “Skroo” Turner has decamped to London for a month of meetings as the company focuses on its offshore operations roaring back thanks to high vaccination rates, while Australia languishes in a low-vaccine-rollout Sydney-lockdown slump.

“The northern hemisphere – the United Kingdom, a couple of countries in Europe and the United States primarily – are by far our best performers over the past six months in terms of winning big corporate accounts,” Mr Turner said from London, where he’s been based since earlier this month and will remain well into August.

“Life is virtually back to normal in London. People are out and about and very few people are wearing masks in the streets, even though they were still clocking around 50,000 new cases a day just last week. That figure has now halved, generating more confidence.”

By contrast, it was “hard to tell” what would happen by way of economic recovery in Australia, he said, adding, “we could be locking down for the next six months. The past year has shown you can’t predict the road out governments will take, other than it will likely involve more border closures and lockdowns.”

[uls]

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oo ung octa sinasabi magkaka surge kaya gusto nila 2 week hard lockdown

pero malaking cost sa economy yan

what if itong 5K to 7K per day since May 2021 IS ALREADY OUR DELTA SURGE?

kaya pala natin i-handle ang delta kahit wala lockdown

Used to be all the cases where in NCR and Cebu kaya 1k plus... now cases are in Iloilo, CDO, Davao and other provincial cities, on top of the usual NCR and Cebu.

[uls]

i'm for UK-style

kaya pala dami dito sa forum badtrip dahil zero covid ang gusto

that's not gonna happen

Oz is example that zero covid can't work

you cannot isolate your country from the rest of the world forever

[Monseratto]

compare UK 2nd wave and 3rd wave

look at their cases and deaths

in 2nd wave both cases and deaths rise

in 3rd wave deaths no longer follow cases




vaccines work

another thesis is many britons already have antibodies from infections during the 2nd wave

UK new Delta cases starting to fall...

U.K.'s Delta wave seems to have peaked sooner than expected. Could the same thing happen in the U.S.?

Another intriguing data point comes from the Office for National Statistics, which recently estimated that 92 percent of adults in England and Wales have antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 through vaccination or previous infection; the numbers were similar in Northern Ireland and Scotland.

The implication here is that after rapidly tearing through the unprotected population — something it does with greater efficiency than any previous variant — Delta is suddenly finding it more and more difficult to spread because so many people have acquired one form of immunity or another

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[uls]

UK new Delta cases starting to fall...

U.K.'s Delta wave seems to have peaked sooner than expected. Could the same thing happen in the U.S.?


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like i said the other day delta burns itself out

july 28

[Flipo]

Pag nag nagbigay ang doctor ng treatment regimen para gamutin ang isang sakit, tinitingnan din niya kung kakayanin ng pasyente ang side effects. Dahil pwedeng side effect pa pumatay sa pasyente.
Yan hindi alam ng OCTA ganyan sila ka ta#$a.

The OCTA Research Group is an all-volunteer enterprise. Since the lockdowns began last year, this team provided the public an independent assessment of the situation as it unfolds.

OCTA looks at the same numbers as the Department of Health does. But it adds a rich social science dimension in looking at those numbers.

We are fortunate there is an independent research team looking over the shoulder of the IATF. That enables us to get a second opinion on our pandemic response.

Meron ding doktor sa grupo nila like Dt. Nic Austriaco, etc

[uls]

Australia once reveled in being the 'lucky country' on Covid-19. Now weary Aussies 'feel like prisoners' - CNN

For much of 2020, Australia's success in controlling the virus was the envy of the world. By March of that year, as Italian hospitals drowned in cases and the UK dithered about restrictions, Australia decisively closed its borders -- and the tactic initially paid off.

"Fortress Australia" is now facing uncomfortable questions about just how far this island sanctuary is willing to go to protect itself from external threats -- including raising the drawbridge to its own citizens.

Closing the borders was a crucial part of the "Lucky Country's" zero-Covid strategy, but experts say the policy has also roused a fearful and isolationist instinct.

ano forever isolated?

[Devastator]

Heto na naman tayo.

Metro Manila under ECQ from August 6-2 —Palace | GMA News Online

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[uls]

congrats fearmongering media and octa you got what you want

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[glenn_duke]

Kawawa naman yung mawawalan ng trabaho ULIT. Punta kayo OCTA hingi kayo food packs.
Lalong tataas rating ni Sarah nyan.

[dr. d]

congrats fearmongering media and octa you got what you want

sometimes, we have to be frightened into doing "the right thing", whatever that is.

[glenn_duke]

Heto na naman tayo.

Metro Manila under ECQ from August 6-2? —Palace | GMA News Online

Sakto yan, sa November lockdiwn ulit Theta variant naman Tingnan natin kung ilan negosyo buhay pa sa 4th quarter ni concepcion.