China Corona Virus Outbreak

[_Cathy_]

ECQ will be effective on Aug 6 but as early as tomorrow no dine-in even in alfresco? But we are currently still in GCQ....

https://bilyonaryo.com/2021/07/30/wa...services-anew/

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Wala na rin mass starting tomorrow. Not sure why other LGUs nag start na ng July 31

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[uls]

from Deestone's link

https://bilyonaryo.com/2021/07/30/wa...services-anew/

Restaurant owners struggling to get back on their feet will suffer another blow with the government’s decision to ban dine in services again.

^^^

sensya na resto owners tinakot kasi ng international and local media ang gobyerno

ung 2 week lockdown naman idea ng octa at sinunod ng metro mayors ang suggestion

[dr. d]

pag sinunod ng gubyerno ang octa, may magagalit.
pag hindi sinunod ng gubyerno ang octa, may magagalit rin.
highs.

[uls]

one can get infected with chickenpox via direct physical contact, or by aerosol.

doc,

[Athrunzala]

US CDC: Fully Vaccinated People can spread Delta Variant

[dr. d]

US CDC: Fully Vaccinated People can spread Delta Variant

well,
i do not recall anyone saying the vaccine proofs the vaccinated against spreading the virus.
the accepted role of the vaccine is to minimize the seriousness of the illness.

[_Cathy_]

Pwede pa pala mapa aga ECQ





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[glenn_duke]

US CDC: Fully Vaccinated People can spread Delta Variant

Pfizer, moderna vaccines pa gamit nila, edi mas lalo na yung naka sinovac , sinopharm gamit.

[uls]

US CDC: Fully Vaccinated People can spread Delta Variant

akala kasi ng mga tao pag vaccinated di na nakakahawa

[dr. d]

does this mean,
periodic, regular, ECQs and lockdowns are going to be a regular occurence this year and even in the coming year, what with the snail's pace of our vaccination efforts?

[ale828]

pag sinunod ng gubyerno ang octa, may magagalit.
pag hindi sinunod ng gubyerno ang octa, may magagalit rin.
highs.

Damned if you do
Damned if you don't

Question:
What is the basis in the end of August 20 for the success of this particular lockdown?
How will we know that we passed the probable surge in Delta variant infection?
Since we are not in a surge right now, what would be their basis is for the lock down being considered successful?

[uls]

does this mean,
periodic, regular, ECQs and lockdowns are going to be a regular occurence this year and even in the coming year,

looks like governments will keep implementing lockdowns

pero it also depends on citizens' willingness to let their governments keep violating their freedoms

as resistance grows it will be harder for governments to implement going forward

[dr. d]

Damned if you do
Damned if you don't

Question:
What is the basis in the end of August 20 for the success of this particular lockdown?
How will we know that we passed the probable surge in Delta variant infection?
Since we are not in a surge right now, what would be their basis is for the lock down being considered successful?

dr. salvanya above (post # 29,407) explained the basis for their recommendation, and the LGUs' apparent basis for their decision(s).
the article mentioned that they meet every two weeks.
i suppose, they will meet again shortly before august 20, to analyze the new data, and decide if it is ok to downgrade the CQ, or to keep it as is.

we are taught in infectious disease class, that relaxing our guard is one way of encouraging surges of infections.
the delta scare will always be with us, until we-as-a-race become immune from it, or when the variant mutates away.

[Papajamba]

Most of us have probably been vaccinated against Varicella or chickenpox, but it doesn’t mean hindi na tayo magkaka chickenpox. Magkaka-chickenpox pa rin tayo at we can spread it to others pero konti na lang rashes at pinakaimportant is it’ll prevent us from having moderate to severe complications of chickenpox and from death.
Brain swelling at blood infection ang complications ng chickenpox sa kids and adults. Dami na namatay noon na kids sa chickenpox!

Ganyan din ang Covid vaccines.
Kaya wag kayo matakot sa fearmongering ng antivaxxers, KSP at nagmamagaling.


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[uls]

Damned if you do
Damned if you don't

Question:
What is the basis in the end of August 20 for the success of this particular lockdown?
How will we know that we passed the probable surge in Delta variant infection?
Since we are not in a surge right now, what would be their basis is for the lock down being considered successful?

basis is octa's 2 week suggestion

also long enough to reduce transmission that will show up in figures

not too long as to minimize damage to the economy

[Athrunzala]

Michael Rapaport Changing His Tune!

[Vodka]

pero it also depends on citizens' willingness to let their governments keep violating their freedoms

that's why there should always be push back, case in point face shields. after this issue was brought up by isko et al i saw a DRAMATIC decrease in number of establishments that wouldn't let me in (coz i never wear fakeshields)

so whenever i see contrarians i don't see them as a-holes, they're actually society's immune system

[dr. d]

Michael Rapaport Changing His Tune!

is this the same guy from your previous post?
the guy who was interpreting changes in the goings-on around him, as signs of impending doom?
i can't find your previous post, kasi.

[Athrunzala]

is this the same guy from your previous post?
the guy who was interpreting changes in the goings-on around him, as signs of impending doom?
i can't find your previous post, kasi.

hindi yata ako ang nagpost nun Doc, hindi ko matandaan sorry
pero itong bagong guy na ito kahapon ko lang nakilala na celebrity pala

[uls]

Michael Rapaport Changing His Tune!

mali kasi messaging ng US

they made it sound like getting vaccinated will make you unable to spread the virus

kaya ung concept ng vaccine pass -- which tells people "hey i'm vaccinated, i'm safe to be around"

WHICH IS SO WRONG

getting vaccinated only prevents you from getting hospitalized

it doesn't prevent the virus from entering your nose / mouth when you breathe it in

and when you breathe in the virus, it will attach to your ACE2 receptors, enter your cells, and make copies of itself

and you'll exhale the virus and infect others