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    #27361
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I dread going to the vaccination site for the second shot! The seniors here were supposed to have it today but were rescheduled for tomorrow. Okay lang ba yun to get the shot at 29 days instead of 28 days?

    It looks like marami na talagang tao that are getting vaccinated. I had my second shot 2 weeks ago, nag walk in lang ako and done in 30 mins (no schedule)



    I watch her vlog sometimes, ang alam ko American siya e. Baka sa Canada kasi siya nagpa surrogacy?



    Ang maganda lang sa China vaccine mas malaki ang sample size unlike the rest of the vaccines pero mataas pa rin death rate 14 to 20%

    Anyway, I would rather China Vac than Astra, mukhang delikado nga yung Astra
    Canadian si Alice Dixon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Canadian si Alice Dixon.


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    American, she mentioned in her vlog na she grew up in NY (or new jersey) saka sa US siya nag work din. Pwede ba yun multiple citizenship? But anyway, sana she completed her vaccine na lang where she got it para wala ng issue. Yung isang shot na ma excess, i raffle na lang sa na sinovac haha

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    #27363
    We now have a new terminology called population protection since seems unlikely we cannot achieve herd immunity within the year.

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    #27364
    ^ Typical government changing the terminology and conditions para may masabi na nagawa sila by the end of the year.

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    #27365
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Study location for Moderna and Pfizer is in the US, which we all know is one of the best in the medical field. They can surely prevent covid patients from dying.
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    #27366
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    We now have a new terminology called population protection since seems unlikely we cannot achieve herd immunity within the year.

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    I think that term was coined because majority of the vaccines we have (Sinovac) doesn't seem to block virus transmission well, as in the case of Chile.

    From Johns Hopkins:

    What is Herd Immunity and How Can We Achieve It With COVID-19? - COVID-19 - Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

    Part of the definition of herd immunity is when the vaccinated are unable to spread the virus.

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    The Covid-19 origin story has massive political consequences - CNNPolitics

    "But finding answers will be hard. China has every reason to cover up a virus that stained its prestige as a rising and sophisticated power with nearly 3.5 million people dead worldwide. Its nationalist leader Xi Jinping and the Communist Party have no time for shame of culpability that would mar their core case to the world -- that their one party rule is a better fit for the 21st century than democracy -- a narrative Biden has publicly vowed to combat."

    Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    #27368
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I will just stay away from Astra even they are saying it is just an isolated case and the risk is very very low.

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    A British model has died days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine


    A British model has died days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine

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    #27369
    Di bale ng less effective yung china vac, mas nakakatakot naman yung risk ng AZ.

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    #27370
    https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/05/27/...na-sa-las-pias

    House and Lot! sa Las Pinas
    Baka sa San Luis pampanga
    may libre Gulay sa Guagua Pampanga.

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    Tanga, anong maskless e majority sa Pilipino naka China Vaccine, gumagaya sa US e hindi naman tayo exclusive na mRNA vaccine lang


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    Ayan na open na A4 for vaccinstion, dadami na tao sa mga vaccination sites.


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    #27374
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Tanga, anong maskless e majority sa Pilipino naka China Vaccine, gumagaya sa US e hindi naman tayo exclusive na mRNA vaccine lang

    Alam mo naman ang admin na ito. Paboboohan ang peg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Tanga, anong maskless e majority sa Pilipino naka China Vaccine, gumagaya sa US e hindi naman tayo exclusive na mRNA vaccine lang

    Ang vulnerable will be the unvaxxed. These include the children. How can they distinguish vaxxed from not? Isa pa, knowing how the infection is transmitted, how can they allow seniors to dine indoors?


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    Mas effective ang SINOVAC kaysa AZN???

    Latest REAL WORLD data on vaccine EFFECTIVENESS (versus efficacy which is from clinical trials) shows that Pfizer, Sinovac and Astra are ALL EQUALLY effective in preventing symptomatic and severe disease.

    Pfizer effectiveness data: Up to 90 to 95% effectiveness in preventing symptomatic disease in real world studies from Israel and the USA. Up to 100% effective in preventing death.

    Astra effectiveness data: Up to 90% effectiveness in preventing symptomatic disease in real world studies from UK. Up to 100% effective in preventing death.

    Sinovac effectiveness data: Up to 94% effectiveness in preventing symptomatic disease in real world studies from Chile and Indonesia. Up to 100% effective in preventing death.

    Of course there are differences. Issues in logistics - Pfizer requires ultra low temperatures, so it is difficult to roll out. The studies on prevention of asymptomatic disease are ongoing but early indications are that most vaccines do prevent at least some asymptomatic disease - this was enough for US CDC to drastically modify mask mandates for the fully vaccinated. Cluster trials to see interruption of community transmission are ongoing, the most advanced of which is Sinovac in Serrana in Brazil - prelim data is encouraging and primary outcome data is due this May.

    Vaccines work and they work well. All the vaccines we have currently will significantly prevent symptomatic and severe disease and will interrupt at least some transmission. Protecting the most vulnerable, especially our seniors will allow us to cautiously dial back our restrictions. If we get a substantial number of seniors vaccinated, we can seriously consider letting them out and letting the kids out and start school as well. When Israel was able to vaccinate 50% of their seniors, deaths and cases drasticaly went down. A2 group (seniors) is at less than 10% vaccinated currently and there is substantial hesitancy. Please, please, please help us convince our seniors to get ANY vaccine available NOW. Fully vaccinating this group is the key to everyone's freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Mas effective ang SINOVAC kaysa AZN???



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    Of course! Nambaone![emoji630]


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    For your information. Bagong rules ng IATF



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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    For your information. Bagong rules ng IATF



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    Bago ba yan? Diba eversince bawal naman talaga sila?


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