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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    mukang sa DOTA lang napuyat si kuya kaya yun ang naisip pagkumprahan not knowing what researchers do.
    Nag-re-research din naman siya eh... Mga NWO, deep state and other conspiracy stuff.

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    from Phil Economy thread

    dito nalang para di ot

    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Madami nang Covid Treatment Protocol ang ginagawa ng mga US Doctors, pero bakit hindi interesado i-publish ng mainstream media?
    coz according to those on the right side of the political spectrum, sinu-suppress ng mainstream media, facebook factcheckers, big pharma & the medical/scientific establishment ang mga treatment na wala masyado kikitain

    specially generic drugs walang pera diyan

    pero malaking pera sa mRNA vax diba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Doc, ano feedback mo sa melatonin? Mukhang maganda ang feedback sa states ngayon.

    Ito rin ang article ng isang Doctor from Manila Doctors Hospital last year pa

    High-dose melatonin, 3 other drugs seen as effective against COVID-19 | Inquirer Lifestyle
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Zinc + Zinc Ionophore
    may kilala ako na-covid na-ospital dahil bumaba ang O2

    after recovering she posted all the meds and supplements they gave her sa hospital

    nandun lahat ng popular covid supplements -- C, D, zinc, melatonin

    nandun din ang powerful interleukin-6 receptor blocker tocilizumab and corticosteroid dexamethasone

    inisip ko kung supplements lang ang binigay sa kanya at wala ung tocilizumab and dexamethasone i don't think she would have made it

    it's the tocilizumab and dexamethasone that saved her, not the supplements

    supplements help keep you healthy while you're healthy

    but when you're seriously sick, supplements won't be powerful enough to pull you back to health
    Last edited by uls; August 30th, 2021 at 10:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    may kilala ako na-covid na-ospital dahil bumaba ang O2

    after recovering she posted all the meds and supplements they gave her sa hospital

    nandun lahat ng popular covid supplements -- C, D, zinc, melatonin

    nandun din ang powerful interleukin-6 receptor blocker tocilizumab and corticosteroid dexamethasone

    inisip ko kung supplements lang ang binigay sa kanya at wala ung tocilizumab and dexamethasone i don't think she would have made it

    it's the tocilizumab and dexamethasone that saved her, not the supplements

    supplements help keep you healthy while you're healthy

    but when you're seriously sick, supplements won't be powerful enough to pull you back to health
    in the first place,
    what makes us think the person survived because of tocilizumab and dexamethasone?
    is it not possible, that she would have survived had she received only sugar pills?

    cause and effect is difficult to prove, if one were dealing with a small subject size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in the first place,
    what makes us think the person survived because of tocilizumab and dexamethasone?
    is it not possible, that she would have survived had she received only sugar pills?

    cause and effect is difficult to prove, if one were dealing with a small subject size.
    bumagsak na oxygen niya, nahirapan na huminga

    well yeah maybe she could have recovered all by herself without the help of those 2 powerful rheumatoid arthritis drugs

    we'll never know

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post

    nandun lahat ng popular covid supplements -- C, D, zinc, melatonin
    Zinc + Zinc Ionophore

    Zinc stops covid replication.

    But taking zinc alone won't work, it has to be paired with a Zinc Ionophore, which makes the human cells absorb zinc.


    The long held secret is that Vitamin D also fights respiratory diseases, yup it is not just Vitamin C. That could be the reason why a lot of poor people don't get covid. Doctors advise to take 5000 IU supplements if you don't receive sunshine and have an earlier recovery from covid...


    If you want to have added protection for your lungs from covid, then take melatonin, NAC, or glutathione.

    Here is a good story from a covid survivor:
    New York mom with coronavirus saved by medical-student son

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    from Phil Economy thread

    dito nalang para di ot

    coz according to those on the right side of the political spectrum, sinu-suppress ng mainstream media, facebook factcheckers, big pharma & the medical/scientific establishment ang mga treatment na wala masyado kikitain

    specially generic drugs walang pera diyan

    pero malaking pera sa mRNA vax diba?


    pati yung treatment ng mga US Doctors for Long Covid (Post-covid side effects) ayaw din i-publish ng mainstream media for public consumption...

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    Inside Incheon Airport immigration area turned into corona virus tracking and learning center someone checks that everyone has downloaded quarantine app with legit details. That person seemingly wearing a bullet proof vest is actually a health officer spraying alcohol sideways on to the seats... #ctto



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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Zinc + Zinc Ionophore

    Zinc stops covid replication.

    But taking zinc alone won't work, it has to be paired with a Zinc Ionophore, which makes the human cells absorb zinc.


    The long held secret is that Vitamin D also fights respiratory diseases, yup it is not just Vitamin C. That could be the reason why a lot of poor people don't get covid. Doctors advise to take 5000 IU supplements if you don't receive sunshine and have an earlier recovery from covid...


    If you want to have added protection for your lungs from covid, then take melatonin, NAC, or glutathione.

    Here is a good story from a covid survivor:
    New York mom with coronavirus saved by medical-student son
    perhaps if numbers were provided,
    the claim would be more credible.

    how many covid patients took it,
    how many improved,
    and how many did not respond favorably.

    kasi,
    kung isa o dalawa o tatlo lang yan...

    if one needs only one example,
    every other drug will be able to lay claim to its effectiveness over practically every other potentially fatal disease.

    what many laymen fail to comprehend, is that there must be statistical evidence backing up the claim to effectiveness.

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    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/statu...272476168?s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Zinc + Zinc Ionophore

    Zinc stops covid replication.

    But taking zinc alone won't work, it has to be paired with a Zinc Ionophore, which makes the human cells absorb zinc.


    The long held secret is that Vitamin D also fights respiratory diseases, yup it is not just Vitamin C. That could be the reason why a lot of poor people don't get covid. Doctors advise to take 5000 IU supplements if you don't receive sunshine and have an earlier recovery from covid...


    If you want to have added protection for your lungs from covid, then take melatonin, NAC, or glutathione.

    Here is a good story from a covid survivor:
    New York mom with coronavirus saved by medical-student son
    re: zinc

    April 2020 i was describing zinc ionophore



    re: vitamin d




    maari supplements can prevent covid from getting worse

    pero majority of covid cases are mild in the first place

    can we be sure gumaling ka coz you took supplements?

    o gagaling ka parin kahit wala?

    -

    preventing mild symptoms from getting worse is one thing

    pulling someone back from the brink of death is another

    i wanna see proof that supplements are responsible for recovery from severe/critical covid

    if it was that easy wala na sa namamatay sa covid
    Last edited by uls; August 31st, 2021 at 05:16 AM.

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    Selfish people that not only endanger themselves but also endanger people around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    perhaps if numbers were provided,
    the claim would be more credible.

    how many covid patients took it,
    how many improved,
    and how many did not respond favorably.

    kasi,
    kung isa o dalawa o tatlo lang yan...

    if one needs only one example,
    every other drug will be able to lay claim to its effectiveness over practically every other potentially fatal disease.

    what many laymen fail to comprehend, is that there must be statistical evidence backing up the claim to effectiveness.
    Most of those pushing these "treatments" and "drugs" are only giving anecdotal evidence w/c is yes, according to The Simpsons are kinds of evidence, but what we really need are scientific evidence based on controlled clinical trials. And no your neighborhood veterinary clinic is not a *clinical* trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    perhaps if numbers were provided,
    the claim would be more credible.

    how many covid patients took it,
    how many improved,
    and how many did not respond favorably.

    kasi,
    kung isa o dalawa o tatlo lang yan...

    if one needs only one example,
    every other drug will be able to lay claim to its effectiveness over practically every other potentially fatal disease.

    what many laymen fail to comprehend, is that there must be statistical evidence backing up the claim to effectiveness.


    PubMedŽ comprises more than 32 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

    zinc covid - Search Results - PubMed


    Just click on a on any link on the search results, madami na information and studies dyan about zinc + covid

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    The Suppression of Early Treatment is Illegal, Unethical, and Immoral
    Association of American Physicians and Surgeons



    They want you to go to the hospital first, then tell you to just comeback when your condition got worse...

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    COVID-19: Anatomy, Physiology, Pharmacology and Treatment
    Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

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    #31377
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    perhaps if numbers were provided,
    the claim would be more credible.

    how many covid patients took it,
    how many improved,
    and how many did not respond favorably.

    kasi,
    kung isa o dalawa o tatlo lang yan...

    if one needs only one example,
    every other drug will be able to lay claim to its effectiveness over practically every other potentially fatal disease.

    what many laymen fail to comprehend, is that there must be statistical evidence backing up the claim to effectiveness.

    Doc, here is a helpful study with number of patients on the effects of Vitamin D on Covid.

    Vitamin D for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 100 studies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    PubMedŽ comprises more than 32 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

    zinc covid - Search Results - PubMed


    Just click on a on any link on the search results, madami na information and studies dyan about zinc + covid
    wala nagsasabi zinc doesn't have a role in antiviral immunity or having direct antiviral activity

    i'm saying zinc (and other supplements) aren't not strong enough when you already have bad covid symptoms

    you need something stronger

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    The Potential Impact of Zinc Supplementation on COVID-19 Pathogenesis

    The Potential Impact of Zinc Supplementation on COVID-19 Pathogenesis

China Corona Virus Outbreak