Nissan Frontier Navara [continued]

[Wh1stl3r]

minsan lang naman yung wd40 mga ones or twice ayear lang, sabay linis lang pag sobrang dumi.

you can do the 2'' AALs rear plus the coil spacer up front para lang medyo pantay. two inch up front is all you can do without the upper control arm although i read somewhere may nabibili locally na upper ball joint spacer in case you want to go a little over 2 inches.

That's what I was thinking. Although for the front I'll probably use 1.5" spacers. The Koni HT's seem to be a bit longer than stock so I will probably not be limiting down travel by much. I've tried 2" spacers and there is coil bucket contact. My coil bucket now has dimples, lol. I was hoping the Eibach springs used in the Radflo coilovers could be used to replace the stock springs, would you know if this is possible? Also, would you mind measuring the longest leaf on the AALs? Appreciate it.

One consideration i'm thinking for not doing the front lift yet is the handling.. Stock setup i find very stable on twisty roads unlike taller ones i dont get confidence attacking the curve at a speed. I use this truck for hauling and that explains those flattened leaves plus at near 7year age i think it served me well.. I did the rear revolvers because i noticed the sag plus to improve spring rate.. Would those AALs fit the 4x2 axle over leaves? I think with my application those AALs would flatten out in time.. OME 400kg Dakar i guess is still the best for HD applications. You tried considering the airbag suspension?

Stock setup is pretty fun in the twisties, specially with switchbacks. The AALs should fit, and should age better than leaf over axle setups since there is more space between the mounting plate and the chassis. This should give the springs more room to retain their arch. Airbags are expensive hehe. Also more complicated, I think those need a compressor to run?

It's looking like 1.5" spacers and Koni 82-2570 for the front, Deaver 2" AALs and Bilstein 5125 for the rear.

[kurt]

tiger leaf spring. part of uratex/evercool group

Leafspring Philippines - Leaf Spring Store - Roberts AIPMC

After 20Tkms of heavy use (hard acceleration, late braking with 400-500Kg on the bed) on the extended shackles my leaf springs have flattened out. Had the time to have the original shackles installed and this is what it looks like:

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The upper 3 leaves are almost flat. Stubborn me, should've never loaded the rear too much with the extended shackles installed. I plan to replace the front with US made coilovers but a full custom leaf pack for the rear costs too much and the shipping cost for these is a b****.

Way I see it I have 5 options:
1. 2 or 3 AAL's - maybe the additional springs can save the upper 3 springs. I could remove the 2 overloads on the bottom. Just concerned a bit, AAL's have been known to flatten out with the sagging leaf pack in short period of time.
2. Medium duty leaf pack from ARB - quality springs but people are divided on the ride quality.
3. OEM spec 4-leaf pack by US custom spring makers - Ride and capacity is same as stock.
4. Full progressive 8-leaf pack from US custom spring makers - this is the most expensive option but will give the best ride I am told. No nasty thick overload leaves. Much better riding than stock.
5. Go local if there are any suppliers.

1 is the cheapest, 2 & 3 cost about the same, and 4 costs 50% more than 2 & 3. Anyone know a good local supplier of leaf springs?

Let this be a lesson to people who want to lift your truck. It's ok to use taller shackles if you don't tow or load much in the tub. But if you do, AAL/custom leaf pack is a much better option in the long term. The stock springs don't have much arch in them brand new to begin with.

[rpfronty]

W,

longer leaf is 33 inches,
shorter one is 18 inches,

[ricciboy]

Good day mga sir pa help naman Im buying a 2nd navarra 2010 LE AT with 75taw on odo good buy ba sya at 730k? TIA sa mga sasagot.


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[Wh1stl3r]

tiger leaf spring. part of uratex/evercool group

Leafspring Philippines - Leaf Spring Store - Roberts AIPMC

Hmmm. Medyo malayo pero worth asking. It may be worth getting the old leaves reset and then add the AALs. Thanks!

W,

longer leaf is 33 inches,
shorter one is 18 inches,

Thanks rp! Will do some measurements next week.

Good day mga sir pa help naman Im buying a 2nd navarra 2010 LE AT with 75taw on odo good buy ba sya at 730k? TIA sa mga sasagot.


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Can't help you with the pricing but first thing I would check is the condition of the turbo. I'd check the condition of the fins on the intake side and the XYZ play on the shaft. Also I'd check the condition of the AT fluid. After that it's all the standard things to check and service records.

*jay
SUre, if you can wait. My target delivery date is by December or maybe early next year. With the delays at the Manila port and all.

I'm also getting EBC Greenstuff or Yellowstuff pads for the front brakes if anyone's interested. PM me.

[rzeraus]

Kmi Compact non-asbestos organic
P900 front, P1.5k rear

Meron na ba may experience sainyo ng brand na ito? Sabi ng dealer kasing lambot daw yan nung OEM Hitachi. Kumakain daw talaga ng rotors ang Bendix sa Japanese cars..

sir 12vdc, yong KMI brake pad hindi kinain yong rotor mo?

saan makabili neto, maraming salamat.

[12vdc]

^ No sir, makinis yung rotors ko no noise din. Nangain ba yung pads mo, what brand?

[rzeraus]

sir 12vdc, parang kasi pag magpreno daw meron vibration.

saan makabili neto, salamat.

[12vdc]

Anong gamit na pads, original hitachi/kotico pa?

Warped rotors siguro sir kaya nag vivibrate, have it refaced asap and check tolerance ng thickness para hindi lumaki ang damage. Baka after replacement ng new pads hindi sinunod ang bedding procedure kaya hindi maganda ang lapat ng pads, or.. si manong driver nakasanayan after humataw at nag wewee break, sa gulong umiihi.. Lol.. Possible din hub bearings pero i have'nt heard such issue yet sa D40.

Sa Nisman ko nabili, idk kung availalble pa ito last time kasi no stock. Nasa 40k kms na siguro may 50% pa. Yung rear drums ko ang ayaw ma upod, sumitomo yata yung brand. May stock din ako Bendix DB1835 GCT baka hnidi ko na magamit, may isa pa kasi ako kmi-c sa stockroom.

[rzeraus]

sir 12vdc, maraming salamat!

sir di ko alam kong replacement kasi sa casa maintained, yon nga lang tinatanong ko kapatid ko anong pinalitan last PMS, di niya alam.

[12vdc]

Balik na lang sa casa, complain yung vibration. Since sila naman ang huling gumawa baka ma-claim pa sa warrantey. Mas mahal ang rotors baka yan ang recommend papalitan ng casa, OEM pads nasa P6-7k yata. Kung shoulder ng casa ang cost OK lang, kung hindi dahil ang reason ng casa is "consumable part" pa second opinion mo sa outside shop baka madala sa re-face & change brake pads. Sa warranty claim dapat establish mo na last-touch job nila at defective kahit consumable part pa, rotors should not warp on normal use.

[rzeraus]

sir 12vdc, model 2010 tapos mileage 110,XXX Km wala na sa warranty. kong warp na talaga rotors at puedi pa re-face yon ang option ko at palit ng brake pad.

maraming salamat ulet.

[jay185]

Hmmm. Medyo malayo pero worth asking. It may be worth getting the old leaves reset and then add the AALs. Thanks!



Thanks rp! Will do some measurements next week.



Can't help you with the pricing but first thing I would check is the condition of the turbo. I'd check the condition of the fins on the intake side and the XYZ play on the shaft. Also I'd check the condition of the AT fluid. After that it's all the standard things to check and service records.

*jay
SUre, if you can wait. My target delivery date is by December or maybe early next year. With the delays at the Manila port and all.

I'm also getting EBC Greenstuff or Yellowstuff pads for the front brakes if anyone's interested. PM me.

Willing to wait ako sir. Count me in

[Wh1stl3r]

*12vdc
Pinapalamig lang ni manong driver yung rotors. Wow, mura naman nung kmi. Ok naman performance? Naka ilang kms na yung pads?

*rzeraus
Yung OEM Hitachi pads nadudurog sa may section na may division pag around <=50% worn na. Yun ang tingin ko nagcacause ng uneven rotor wear. Yung akin may hairline cracks pa, makapal pa sana pero palitin na din. Kung warped na talaga rotors pwede pa iparesurface kung pasok pa sa minimum thickness pero babalik din agad sa dati yun. Better buy a better quality replacement (DBA? ) na lang kung balak mo pa i-keep ng matagal si Nav.

*jay
Nakalift ba yung sa yo sir? You'll need to lift the front as well kung mag AAL, tataas kasi yung likod by 1"-1.5". Ok na yun kung meron ka nang spacers/lift coils/coilovers sa harap.

[rzeraus]

*rzeraus
Yung OEM Hitachi pads nadudurog sa may section na may division pag around <=50% worn na. Yun ang tingin ko nagcacause ng uneven rotor wear. Yung akin may hairline cracks pa, makapal pa sana pero palitin na din. Kung warped na talaga rotors pwede pa iparesurface kung pasok pa sa minimum thickness pero babalik din agad sa dati yun. Better buy a better quality replacement (DBA? ) na lang kung balak mo pa i-keep ng matagal si Nav.

sir Wh1stl3r, thanks for sharing that information, i'll keep that in mind.

[jay185]

*12vdc
Pinapalamig lang ni manong driver yung rotors. Wow, mura naman nung kmi. Ok naman performance? Naka ilang kms na yung pads?

*rzeraus
Yung OEM Hitachi pads nadudurog sa may section na may division pag around <=50% worn na. Yun ang tingin ko nagcacause ng uneven rotor wear. Yung akin may hairline cracks pa, makapal pa sana pero palitin na din. Kung warped na talaga rotors pwede pa iparesurface kung pasok pa sa minimum thickness pero babalik din agad sa dati yun. Better buy a better quality replacement (DBA? ) na lang kung balak mo pa i-keep ng matagal si Nav.

*jay
Nakalift ba yung sa yo sir? You'll need to lift the front as well kung mag AAL, tataas kasi yung likod by 1"-1.5". Ok na yun kung meron ka nang spacers/lift coils/coilovers sa harap.

Yep lifted na yung harap

[rzeraus]

this morning I asked for the front brake pad and the guy at nissan (authorize re-seller) here give me a different part number, D1060-EB326 and he even said that this is the new part number.

I hope you guys can confirm this is the new part number, thank you.

[Wh1stl3r]

*jay
Pm'ed you.

*rzeraus
Not sure if they changed the pads (mine's a 2008 model) but here is a pic of the ones on mine:

If the profile is the same they should fit.

[rzeraus]

^
sir Wh1stl3r, thank you.

yes! I think the dimensions are; 163.4 mm x 53.6 mm x 15.8 mm. yong rotor ng thai build navara is 296 mm in diameter?

[jay185]

Boss whistler pm mo ren sa aken mobile number mo.