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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    Same thing here, I really thought it was made to save fuel. I think you can use a standard battery.
    Mazda's I-stop technology is designed to save fuel.

    Mazda I-stop Explained - Idling Stop - Discover Your Mazda

    You just need to invest on a more expensive car battery though.

    To the Mazda owners here, would you say that I-stop is really a significant feature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Mazda's I-stop technology is designed to save fuel.

    Mazda I-stop Explained - Idling Stop - Discover Your Mazda

    You just need to invest on a more expensive car battery though.

    To the Mazda owners here, would you say that I-stop is really a significant feature?
    Meron isang article a few years back on how the disposal/recycling of a Prius' batteries would still cause more damage to the environment at the end of its life than the fuel it would save/emissions it would generate compared to a sedan of the same size.

    Not sure if this is still the case with hybrids, or environmentally friendly vehicles like this one today.

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    Cost in Jp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Mazda's I-stop technology is designed to save fuel.

    Mazda I-stop Explained - Idling Stop - Discover Your Mazda

    You just need to invest on a more expensive car battery though.

    To the Mazda owners here, would you say that I-stop is really a significant feature?
    That's the bonus....Start/Stop systems were meant more for the environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Mazda's I-stop technology is designed to save fuel.

    Mazda I-stop Explained - Idling Stop - Discover Your Mazda

    You just need to invest on a more expensive car battery though.

    To the Mazda owners here, would you say that I-stop is really a significant feature?
    In my opinion, this Start/Stop technology, i-Stop for Mazda is just there because of emission control. Theoretically, you are able to save gas and lessen carbon emissions. In normal driving conditions, this can be true. However, the traffic condition in Manila is ... (put your adjective here!)

    Another concern for me is turbocharger cooling. i-Stop will activate if you fully depressed your brakes. Imagine that I'm driving along SCTEX for two straight hours then I have to pay upon exit. That means I'll stop so i-Stop will activate. Since the engine is stopped, I don't think that cooling oil is circulating to the turbocharger. I know that it will last only 30 seconds but if there is no cooling, I don't know if that's good even if you'll run it again soon. I'm not an expert so I really can't tell.

    Regarding your question, I'll say it's a significant feature because of government regulations. For example, shipping companies are required to use low sulfur bunker oil. I can't give the numbers right now (I don't have my notes) but if you'll just consider 100 ships in a year, the SOx and NOx they emit is doing a significant amount of damage to the environment.

    I know that battery is expensive but we have to pay for the price, the price for the environment our previous generations they created for us. Should we let our children's children suffer a worst fate than us?

    One more thing, I'm not an environmentalist but a concerned person who keeps candy wrappers on my pocket until I find a trashcan.
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    i-stop is meant for both reducing carbon emissions for the benefit of the environment _plus_ to save fuel from getting wasted when the car is idle. These benefits are not mutually exclusive. Now the question is this: Is there really a significant fuel savings when using i-stop?

    At least according to a study cited by Engineering Explained, there is:



    The next question would be: Can i-stop help me save fuel when it comes to the horrendous traffic conditions here in PH? That will vary in various traffic conditions your car is going through on a daily basis. I've used i-stop for a few weeks. Yes there were some slight fuel savings, I gained some additional 1 to 2 km distance for the saved fuel. Yeah it's not significant. Is it worth it? Shortening the lifespan of the expensive EFBattery, imho it's not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_pido View Post
    Very long squeals on cold starts, intermittently re appering for 5-10 mins then nada all through out the trip. Occuring whether the aircon is off or on.

    It's possible that it's your radiator fan motor that's making the noise ... Check it early in the morning, have someone start the car while you listen with the hood open ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    In my opinion, this Start/Stop technology, i-Stop for Mazda is just there because of emission control. Theoretically, you are able to save gas and lessen carbon emissions. In normal driving conditions, this can be true. However, the traffic condition in Manila is ... (put your adjective here!)

    Another concern for me is turbocharger cooling. i-Stop will activate if you fully depressed your brakes. Imagine that I'm driving along SCTEX for two straight hours then I have to pay upon exit. That means I'll stop so i-Stop will activate. Since the engine is stopped, I don't think that cooling oil is circulating to the turbocharger. I know that it will last only 30 seconds but if there is no cooling, I don't know if that's good even if you'll run it again soon. I'm not an expert so I really can't tell.

    Regarding your question, I'll say it's a significant feature because of government regulations. For example, shipping companies are required to use low sulfur bunker oil. I can't give the numbers right now (I don't have my notes) but if you'll just consider 100 ships in a year, the SOx and NOx they emit is doing a significant amount of damage to the environment.

    I know that battery is expensive but we have to pay for the price, the price for the environment our previous generations they created for us. Should we let our children's children suffer a worst fate than us?

    One more thing, I'm not an environmentalist but a concerned person who keeps candy wrappers on my pocket until I find a trashcan.
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    I-stop won't be triggered when:

    If you got the air conditioning on maximum settings i-stop won’t work. It also won’t work if you’re on an incline, if you’re in reverse, if the doors are open or if the driver’s seat belt is unfastened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    I-stop won't be triggered when:

    If you got the air conditioning on maximum settings i-stop won’t work. It also won’t work if you’re on an incline, if you’re in reverse, if the doors are open or if the driver’s seat belt is unfastened.
    Or when bonnet latch isn't engaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    I-stop won't be triggered when:

    If you got the air conditioning on maximum settings i-stop won’t work. It also won’t work if you’re on an incline, if you’re in reverse, if the doors are open or if the driver’s seat belt is unfastened.
    If i-Stop is ON and all conditions are met, it will activate. As I've said, stopping at toll gate will activate it if the brakes are fully depressed. That is, the doors are not open, I'm not reversing, I'm not on an incline, etc. I know it will because I did try depressing the brakes and the engine stopped while I was getting my ECTAG.

    And yes, I don't use the A/C on maximum setting. I easily get cold. One of the reasons why I don't want to be alone in a car so that someone will hug me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    If i-Stop is ON and all conditions are met, it will activate. As I've said, stopping at toll gate will activate it if the brakes are fully depressed. That is, the doors are not open, I'm not reversing, I'm not on an incline, etc. I know it will because I did try depressing the brakes and the engine stopped while I was getting my ECTAG.

    And yes, I don't use the A/C on maximum setting. I easily get cold. One of the reasons why I don't want to be alone in a car so that someone will hug me.
    [emoji3]
    Haha. Will i-stop work if someone is sitting on your lap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luap View Post
    Haha. Will i-stop work if someone is sitting on your lap?

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    Let's await archer's test result.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luap View Post
    Haha. Will i-stop work if someone is sitting on your lap?

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    You can try it on your new CX-5!
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Let's await archer's test result.[emoji4]

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    I could almost guarantee 99.99% it is not just i-Stop that will not work, the car will stop.
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    Now, where's my wife? I'm cold...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    You can try it on your new CX-5!
    I could almost guarantee 99.99% it is not just i-Stop that will not work, the car will stop.
    [emoji3]

    Now, where's my wife? I'm cold...
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    Ay-stop po koya. [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson de Leon View Post
    Ay-stop po koya. [emoji23]

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    This is hilarious! [emoji3]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    This is hilarious! [emoji3]
    Still no test results?[emoji14]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Still no test results?[emoji14]

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    I think the guy who tested it is *Nelson de Leon. I'm also waiting for *Luap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    I think the guy who tested it is *Nelson de Leon. I'm also waiting for *Luap.
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    Wifey using the cx5 and she wont me sit on her lap..so no feedback yet[emoji28]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson de Leon View Post
    Ay-stop po koya. [emoji23]

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    [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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