All New 2017 Mazda 3

[travajante]

So, the new 3 will have a torsion beam and the new Corolla/Altis will have an independent rear suspension. I don't mind the rear noise of the current 3 but why did Mazda decided to return to that beam aside from it's simplicity and to eliminate noise? Bummer, is it?

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Lame excuse, right?[emoji848]
Not saying the torsion beam isn't any good & admittedly, it does have its pluses....among them, the other reduction....cost to produce & maintain.[emoji4]


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[jojopad]

Nice Donut Media Up To Speed episode about Mazdaspeed



I'm wondering how come there's no Mazdaspeed version for the M3 Skyactiv gen?

Or perhaps there will be a Mazdaspeed version for the upcoming 4th gen Mazda3? [emoji14]

[AITNIMRA]

at last!!

Mazda Announces Apple CarPlay Availability for 214 or Newer Vehicles With Mazda Connect - iClarified

[go-to-guy]

at last!!

Mazda Announces Apple CarPlay Availability for 214 or Newer Vehicles With Mazda Connect - iClarified

Question is when is it coming here and for how much?

[travajante]

Question is when is it coming here and for how much?

Soon.[emoji4]

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[go-to-guy]

Soon.[emoji4]

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You getting one? I think I read for our models they're also going to change the infotainment screen if you'll upgrade right? It's going to be like the 2017 models?

[jojopad]

Question is when is it coming here and for how much?

From ************ (thanks to JohnM for sharing this at another forum)

Apple CarPlay and Android Auto Arrives for MY214 and Up Mazda Models | Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Automotive Features, and New Car Prices | ************

The first market to institute the update, Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) will be charging customers USD 199 (~ P 10,400.00) plus labor to install the update.

Bermaz Auto Philippines, Mazda’s exclusive distributor in the Philippines is currently coordinating with Mazda Corporation on when the Philippines will receive the green light for this Mazda Connect update.

It is currently not known if they will be charging customers for the said update.

[travajante]

You getting one? I think I read for our models they're also going to change the infotainment screen if you'll upgrade right? It's going to be like the 2017 models?

The screen is independent of the module. Many have gotten used BN screens off eBay.

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[go-to-guy]

From ************ (thanks to JohnM for sharing this at another forum)

Apple CarPlay and Android Auto Arrives for MY214 and Up Mazda Models | Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Automotive Features, and New Car Prices | ************

The first market to institute the update, Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) will be charging customers USD 199 (~ P 10,400.00) plus labor to install the update.

Bermaz Auto Philippines, Mazda’s exclusive distributor in the Philippines is currently coordinating with Mazda Corporation on when the Philippines will receive the green light for this Mazda Connect update.

It is currently not known if they will be charging customers for the said update.

Good to know. I'm pretty sure they'll charge alot. SD card of the maps pa lang ang mahal na, what more hardware and software upgrades.

[jojopad]

Good to know. I'm pretty sure they'll charge alot. SD card of the maps pa lang ang mahal na, what more hardware and software upgrades.

It won't be free definitely. I'm likely not going to have my infotainment upgraded unless there's a defect. Wait and see muna with the latest update. New software and hardware are prone to bugs and defects [emoji52]

[RedlineJunkie]

Nice Donut Media Up To Speed episode about Mazdaspeed



I'm wondering how come there's no Mazdaspeed version for the M3 Skyactiv gen?

Or perhaps there will be a Mazdaspeed version for the upcoming 4th gen Mazda3? [emoji14]

There will be a Mazda 3 2.5L Turbo Skyactiv. Maybe that 'll be the new Mazdaspeed3.

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[Peyjas]

There will be a Mazda 3 2.5L Turbo Skyactiv. Maybe that 'll be the new Mazdaspeed3.

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For real?! [emoji7]

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[travajante]

For real?! [emoji7]

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Mazda long said NO.[emoji53]

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[jut703]

Lame excuse, right?[emoji848]
Not saying the torsion beam isn't any good & admittedly, it does have its pluses....among them, the other reduction....cost to produce & maintain.[emoji4]


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Sad that the best handling car in the segment will soon have a torsion beam.

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[travajante]

Sad that the best handling car in the segment will soon have a torsion beam.

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Hehe...the 2 handles great w/ the beam. Though we can't expect the 3's dynamics to yield the same.
Drawback of multi-link suspension systems, they can go outtawhack once bushes & moving components wear. Camber, caster, toe tweaks can be a pain for the OCD. It's a great system. Yes. But for us who aren't as blessed as them who switch regularly, the beamed & rigid axled ones are a welcome blessing. 1 example of the latter...the legendary LC80. It's the suspension being missed by purists today.[emoji53]

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[jut703]

Hehe...the 2 handles great w/ the beam. Though we can't expect the 3's dynamics to yield the same.
Drawback of multi-link suspension, they can go outtawhack once bushes & moving components wear. Camber, caster, toe tweaks can be a pain for the OCD. It's a great system. Yes, but for us who aren't as blessed as them who switch regularly, the beamed & rigid axled ones are a welcome blessing. 1 example of the latter...the legendary LC80. It's the suspension being missed by purists today.[emoji53]

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Funny. When the Mazda 3 had independent rear suspension while most of the competition did not (Altis, Elantra, etc), it was touted as a key advantage. Now that it has joined the competition with torsion beams, suddenly it's not so bad?

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[jut703]

The most logical reason to switch to a torsion beam is cost cutting. Just as many other manufacturers have done with their compacts.

When Honda switched from front wishbones in the EK to McPhersons in the ES, it marked a step back in the handling department.

And if NVH was the main reason for going from IRS to torsion beam, why do all midsize sedans (which have better NVH) still use IRS?

At the end of the day, it's cost cutting and we can only hope that the torsion beam will be tuned well. There's still a lot going for the next gen Mazda 3 after all, the sharp looks and SkyActivX being the headlines.

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[travajante]

Funny. When the Mazda 3 had independent rear suspension while most of the competition did not (Altis, Elantra, etc), it was touted as a key advantage. Now that it has joined the competition with torsion beams, suddenly it's not so bad?

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It's a trade-off I'd gladly opt. Ours w/ multi-link I've to monitor alignment & tire wear often. Refreshing em requires a bit longer tinker time. The rigid axled & beamed ones have less parts to worry about.... less attention drawn....hands down, way more durable.
Let's see how the new 3 drives. I hope it'll surprise.[emoji4]


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[travajante]

The most logical reason to switch to a torsion beam is cost cutting. Just as many other manufacturers have done with their compacts.

When Honda switched from front wishbones in the EK to McPhersons in the ES, it marked a step back in the handling department.

And if NVH was the main reason for going from IRS to torsion beam, why do all midsize sedans (which have better NVH) still use IRS?

At the end of the day, it's cost cutting and we can only hope that the torsion beam will be tuned well. There's still a lot going for the next gen Mazda 3 after all, the sharp looks and SkyActivX being the headlines.

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As you quoted in post #3194, we pointed out the same. Cost reduction to produce....& the silver lining...lower maintenance for us.

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[jut703]

As you quoted in post #3194, we pointed out the same. Cost reduction to produce....& the silver lining...lower maintenance for us.

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Yeah by definition, a silver lining is a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy situation.

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