The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[mikey177]

altec,

I think J3 is the TDIC. Anyway, bumiyahe ka palagi sa highway, mawawala yung smoke belching na yan. Occasionally, I get a little black smoke when I rev the engine up for the first time before the turbo kicks in, but after that there are no noticeable black emissions. Am almost up to 95,000-km on the odometer

Also, my stock Kumho tires also wore out faster in front than at the back, but I also didn't wait for them to wear out too much since I wanted to change them ASAP to something that would give me more peace of mind while driving at highway speeds.

[altec]

Mikey, I think only diesoline is crdi, yours is the same engine as mine, the 2.9tdic? When you say highway, up to what rpm do you reach and maintain? From what I recall, 100kph is just slightly above 2K rpm, so to really belch out the smoke in my case at 3K rpm, I have to go maybe over 130kph and maintain? Cebu kasi ako Mikey, makitid ang highway dito, mahirap sustain yung ganung speed.

[mikey177]

altec,

Highway cruising speed for me is usually 80-100 kph, which translates to only 2,000 rpm. However, I occasionally reach 3,000 rpm when overtaking slow vehicles in 2nd or 3rd gear. Also, I haven't used biodiesel for over a year owing to the lack of suppliers in Pangasinan. So far, I haven't noticed any degredation in engine performance, and smoke belching is still rare for me even without BD.

I sometimes reach 130 kph on the NLEX, but my heart can't take any higher speeds, so I wouldn't know if my engine would belch smoke if it goes over 130 kph

Anyway, I hope you find a solution to your smoke belching woes.

Does the Sedona CDRi engine have a different designation from the TDIC? I'm sure mine is a TDIC, and my registration papers say the engine is a J3.

[DacoTyan]

Mikey, I think only diesoline is crdi, yours is the same engine as mine, the 2.9tdic? When you say highway, up to what rpm do you reach and maintain? From what I recall, 100kph is just slightly above 2K rpm, so to really belch out the smoke in my case at 3K rpm, I have to go maybe over 130kph and maintain? Cebu kasi ako Mikey, makitid ang highway dito, mahirap sustain yung ganung speed.

You could lock it in 2nd and 3rd gear. Cost more fuel-wise but it'll get you to 3000 rpm without going to fast.

[leolop]

however, this is no longer material because, i, proud padre de pamilia, was voted down 4 to 1 by the wife and kids, the vote going to the starex.

I'm happily eating my words; we're getting the repo carnival park 2 after all. the crdi starex is a very good people mover, but we couldn't resist getting this good unit WITHOUT the burden of a bank loan.

while waiting for the bank to finalize the deal, i just have some questions:

1. what size of car battery is ideal for the carnival?
2. would it be better to get a cheaper kind of oil so i can change oil earlier and get rid of any gunk that didn't leave with the inital flushing or go for a good one at once?
3. is getting a strut bar a good idea (as so kindly offered by totoybato)?
4. is it supposed to have keyless entry and/or alarm? The key I used looked like a spare and didn't indicate that it did.

I’m planning to get an oil change at a gas station near the warehouse then travel it at night to avoid kotong cops (registration wasn’t renewed). I’m refusing to have my first act of proud ownership be having it towed. Thanks and your inputs are most appreciated.

[altec]

1. what size of car battery is ideal for the carnival?
2. would it be better to get a cheaper kind of oil so i can change oil earlier and get rid of any gunk that didn't leave with the inital flushing or go for a good one at once?
3. is getting a strut bar a good idea (as so kindly offered by totoybato)?
4. is it supposed to have keyless entry and/or alarm? The key I used looked like a spare and didn't indicate that it did.

I’m planning to get an oil change at a gas station near the warehouse then travel it at night to avoid kotong cops (registration wasn’t renewed). I’m refusing to have my first act of proud ownership be having it towed. Thanks and your inputs are most appreciated.

1. Get a 3smf or N90 maintenance free battery
2. Go for the mineral 15w-40 oil. That's fine. Petron is the RevX, Shell is the Rimula or Helix series for diesel engines. Just look at the API rating. The higher the rating, the better. What's weird is that with Shell, I noticed the Helix for diesel is priced cheaper than the Rimula D or X, but the API rating is higher by one level.
3. Strut bars will stiffen the ride as the downside but the upside is better rolling stability. The Sedona has a tendency to wallow as I mentioned in this thread somewhere at the early part, but this is because of its soft ride.
4. Kung walang alarm with central locking, pakabit ka na lang. IMO, nowadays, better with than without.

[altec]

Daco, I revved the engine to 3000rpm to belch out the smoke. When I went uphill, I deliberately kept it in low gear to make it rev hi. Nawala rin ang usok that I normally see. I guess occasional aggressive revving is needed by our engine. It will also help if we clean the air filter every 1000km thereabouts.

[diesoline]

altec,

Highway cruising speed for me is usually 80-100 kph, which translates to only 2,000 rpm. However, I occasionally reach 3,000 rpm when overtaking slow vehicles in 2nd or 3rd gear. Also, I haven't used biodiesel for over a year owing to the lack of suppliers in Pangasinan. So far, I haven't noticed any degredation in engine performance, and smoke belching is still rare for me even without BD.

I sometimes reach 130 kph on the NLEX, but my heart can't take any higher speeds, so I wouldn't know if my engine would belch smoke if it goes over 130 kph

Anyway, I hope you find a solution to your smoke belching woes.

Does the Sedona CDRi engine have a different designation from the TDIC? I'm sure mine is a TDIC, and my registration papers say the engine is a J3.

my engine is a J3 too. i don't have any problems with smoke belching maybe because i travel the same roads as you do. when the car is near due for an oil change, a puff of black smoke sometimes comes out when i mash the accelerator for a kickdown shift..

the flying v station here is selling bd laced diesel straight from the pumps. they are selling it for 31.40/liter. i made usyoso and learned that they blend 150 liters bd for every 12000 liters diesel. so that makes it a 1.25% blend. pwede na... but i want to have more info on the diesel that flying v stocks.

[mikey177]

diesoline,

San yung Flying V station na yan? Is that the one after Binalonan going up to Baguio already?

[benny]

Congratulations on your choice of car Leolop. Hopefully, if the car was maintained properly, you will have a head-ache free ride. I bought my gray market carnival park II 2003 model from a Korean in September of last year and my faimily and I have not been disappointed with it. I use it as my daily ride to and from Sta Rosa to Makati and it now has 53K+ kms logged. Just maintain it well. I go to Kia Sto Tomas every 5000 km.