The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[endrina]

Hi,

I have a kia sedona 2003 (gasoline v6 engine) with 50k+ mileage. I bought it 5 months ago second hand at kia cebu and just used from office to home and vice versa which is around 10km round trip ride. The van was running fine but when I start the engine this morning I could hear a knocking sound inside the engine. Similar to a pop corn being cooked. The sound gets worst as you step on the accelerator. And the van has no power, after running few meters the engine stops. I had it looked by my neighbor mechanic and he said its the spark plugs but advised me to have it changed by kia since the tools used are different and I went to kia to have someone came over. The kia mechanic agreed that its the spark plugs and replaced it but the problem still occurred. They also checked the coils and the high tension wires, its ok but the problem still there. They checked the air in-take and etc. but the problem is still there. I ended to have the van towed back to my house. Anyone encountered a similar problem? Please advise how to fix the problem and shop recommendation. Thanks.

[beryltherese]

sa wakas, tumino na ang KC ko, haaaaay......

sira pala ang isa kong nozzle, dami pinalitan at binutinting, yun lang pala.....

wag na sana siya magluko....

magaling mag-trouble-shoot yung calibration na napuntahan ko, akala ko injection pump ang may problema...... galeng-galeng..... yehey.....

kaya lang nataga ako sa labor, but still ok na din, napatino niya yung sasakyan ko..... HAPPY

[dr. d]

i was thinking of getting a carnival/sedona. but after just a few minutes of looking thru this thread, i am beginning to get the idea that the car was built around problems... is it faulty design or poor build quality? i had an office mate once. he said his carnival stayed longer in the repair shop than in his garage. i thought he was kidding...
or is it possible, the cars i see here are just a select few that are sold over and over again, changing owners.. that the majority of carnivals out there are as trouble-free as the japanese..

[yapoy86]

sedona is more refined than the carnival.. most problems encountered with the carnival are already solved in the sedona.. if your getting 2nd hand get the sedona M/T..

i had a carnival before wala naman problem at kung meron man eh may solutions available...

yung carnival ko before 2nd din yun nabili sa kakilala namen na medyo mayaman.. dami nila cars like toyota and bmw sedans but the funny thing is yung kia carnival ang gamit na gamit nila.. iniingatan ata nila yung mga toyota at bmw nila kasi bka masira agad..

[altec]

i was thinking of getting a carnival/sedona. but after just a few minutes of looking thru this thread, i am beginning to get the idea that the car was built around problems... is it faulty design or poor build quality? i had an office mate once. he said his carnival stayed longer in the repair shop than in his garage. i thought he was kidding...
or is it possible, the cars i see here are just a select few that are sold over and over again, changing owners.. that the majority of carnivals out there are as trouble-free as the japanese..

dr. d, sent you PM

[wus]

i was thinking of getting a carnival/sedona. but after just a few minutes of looking thru this thread, i am beginning to get the idea that the car was built around problems... is it faulty design or poor build quality? i had an office mate once. he said his carnival stayed longer in the repair shop than in his garage. i thought he was kidding...
or is it possible, the cars i see here are just a select few that are sold over and over again, changing owners.. that the majority of carnivals out there are as trouble-free as the japanese..

If you are looking for trouble-free like japanese van, carnival/sedona is not the right choice. Reliability of Toyota and Honda can't be found in Kia Carnival/Sedona. I have Sedona LS '02 with almost 90K mileage now, it didn't cause me problem like stalling on the middle of the road, but I had replaced more spare parts than the Honda car.

My existing problem is on the aircon rpm actuator (not sure if this is the right term), which was never fixed by Kia Pasay. It broke on the second year where the car is still under warranty. So when the air compressor is on, the RPM is lower. Even the service of Kia casa is not comparable with Honda & Toyota. They are courteous but the mechanic are not top caliber. Quality control of Kia assembly line (Korea?), is not the Japanese grade. This is my experience...

BTW, if anyway can help on the aircon actuator, will surely appreciate. Thanks!

[altec]

My former ride also had that problem, after the warranty. I was forced to replace it. I already forgot how much. After they replaced it, it didn't break down again. But then, my sedona had so much problems that it was more in the shop than out, so the replaced actuator never was tested as the car was not used as often as I wanted it.

Bottom line, I am happy to have traded it in. I miss its supple suspension, though.

[mintoy]

If you are looking for trouble-free like japanese van, carnival/sedona is not the right choice. Reliability of Toyota and Honda can't be found in Kia Carnival/Sedona. I have Sedona LS '02 with almost 90K mileage now, it didn't cause me problem like stalling on the middle of the road, but I had replaced more spare parts than the Honda car.

My existing problem is on the aircon rpm actuator (not sure if this is the right term), which was never fixed by Kia Pasay. It broke on the second year where the car is still under warranty. So when the air compressor is on, the RPM is lower. Even the service of Kia casa is not comparable with Honda & Toyota. They are courteous but the mechanic are not top caliber. Quality control of Kia assembly line (Korea?), is not the Japanese grade. This is my experience...

BTW, if anyway can help on the aircon actuator, will surely appreciate. Thanks!

to replace the actuator can be a DIY job. you can buy the original actuator at goodgear. in our case. kia pasay told me that it was the actuator that was busted. so i replaced it on my own. but only to discover that the original one was still working. the problem was that there was no ground. so i conneceted the grounding wire from the actuator to the body. then it was fine. cost of actuator was around 400 (not exactly sure cuz this was 3 years ago).

to locate the actuator. trace the black rubber vaccum tube from the injection pump to the actuator. for the sedona, it's located beside the fuel filter. hope this helps

[mintoy]

mga sirs, ask ko lang kung yung CONTITECH belt na para sa alternator(5PK1592) ay ang brand na design talaga para sa sedona..experienced ko kasi, bakit madali siyang maputol, to think that i seldom used the van.bago pa lang ung belt, almost 1 month pa lang, minsan ko lang gamitin yung van, bigla bigla na lang naputol,at worst pa, im on the middle of the traffic,, did anyone experienced this,madali maputol ang belt,ok naman ang mga idler bearing, wala problema,naka align naman..mga sirs,ano kaya mga possible causes kung bakit madali maputol ang belt.may titibay pa ba na brand ng belt aside from contitech.TIA...

if your looking to replace your fanbelts. i would strongly suggest you get other brands like gates or bando. at the moment. the only belt i'm using in our sedona that is contitiech is the timing belt (a/c and power steering are all bando). before i was puzzles why the casa would recommend replacing the timing belt every 60k km (unlike japan cars every 90-100k km). but now i know why. even if the timing belt has not reached 60k km. it was all cracked up. contitech is made in germany. but its possible that the material they used is not compatible for our climate.

[greasynerd]

if your looking to replace your fanbelts. i would strongly suggest you get other brands like gates or bando. at the moment. the only belt i'm using in our sedona that is contitiech is the timing belt (a/c and power steering are all bando). before i was puzzles why the casa would recommend replacing the timing belt every 60k km (unlike japan cars every 90-100k km). but now i know why. even if the timing belt has not reached 60k km. it was all cracked up. contitech is made in germany. but its possible that the material they used is not compatible for our climate.

thank you sir for your advice.right now,im using gates brand.but the problem sir,nag sqeaks,nkaka irita ung ingay.i tried to apply belt dressing, medyo nabawasan but still the sound ias still there.di ba ung belt na para sa power steering, kasama din ung alternator and the water pump...Meron bang bando brand na para sa sedona sir.KIndly send naman ung number ng belt.I can't find bando belt,na 5PK1590,nakaka praning na kasi,halos every month nagpapalit ako ng belt..hindi tuloy ako makibyahe,thinking na baka maputolan na naman ako ng belt at walang replacement..TIA and Merry Christmas and Prosperous New Year to you sir mintoy...

[praetor91313]

I've had very little problems with my Sedona 2004 since we bought it second hand about 6 months(?) ago. Went to Tagaytay twice but most of the time, short drive lang from Paranaque to Makati cities.

2 days ago we went to our province in Tarlac, again there were not problems even after going home yesterday.

Today however, after turning it on, I heard a persistent squeaking sound coming from one of the belts. I opened the hood and the noise became a bit softer but after a few seconds it started this continuous squeaking sound again. I turned off the engine and inspected the belts, wala namang misaligned or eroded na belts. Inalog ko pang konti yung mga wheels nung belt wala naman maluwag.

I turned on the engine again and it disappeared. I was able to drive to work, will check if the problem returns this afternoon pag-uwi ko.

Ano kaya ang cause nun?

[praetor91313]

I've had very little problems with my Sedona 2004 since we bought it second hand about 6 months(?) ago. Went to Tagaytay twice but most of the time, short drive lang from Paranaque to Makati cities.

2 days ago we went to our province in Tarlac, again there were not problems even after going home yesterday.

Today however, after turning it on, I heard a persistent squeaking sound coming from one of the belts. I opened the hood and the noise became a bit softer but after a few seconds it started this continuous squeaking sound again. I turned off the engine and inspected the belts, wala namang misaligned or eroded na belts. Inalog ko pang konti yung mga wheels nung belt wala naman maluwag.

I turned on the engine again and it disappeared. I was able to drive to work, will check if the problem returns this afternoon pag-uwi ko.

Ano kaya ang cause nun?

[wus]

My former ride also had that problem, after the warranty. I was forced to replace it. I already forgot how much. After they replaced it, it didn't break down again. But then, my sedona had so much problems that it was more in the shop than out, so the replaced actuator never was tested as the car was not used as often as I wanted it.

Bottom line, I am happy to have traded it in. I miss its supple suspension, though.

I was told by Kia Pasay that the injection pump assy be replaced to fix the aircon idle-up problem. I guess the actuator was functional, but it can't pull the idle-up that is attached on the injection pump. :-(

The soft ride made me keep the minivan. :-)

Happy New Year!

[wus]

to replace the actuator can be a DIY job. you can buy the original actuator at goodgear. in our case. kia pasay told me that it was the actuator that was busted. so i replaced it on my own. but only to discover that the original one was still working. the problem was that there was no ground. so i conneceted the grounding wire from the actuator to the body. then it was fine. cost of actuator was around 400 (not exactly sure cuz this was 3 years ago).

to locate the actuator. trace the black rubber vaccum tube from the injection pump to the actuator. for the sedona, it's located beside the fuel filter. hope this helps

I will check the actuator again if it will open the vacuum gate going to the aircon idle up module once compressor is on. When I tried to isolate the problem after repeatedly complaining this problem with Kia Pasay, the prognosis then was the idle-up diaphragm has leak.

Thank you and Happy New Year!

[benchph1]

I was told by Kia Pasay that the injection pump assy be replaced to fix the aircon idle-up problem. I guess the actuator was functional, but it can't pull the idle-up that is attached on the injection pump. :-(

The soft ride made me keep the minivan. :-)

Happy New Year!

i always thought the carnival/sedona's ride is firm.


having been driven a few starex vans before. now that is soft. so soft in fact it makes me dizzy when i drive them at expressways.

i never experience this on our previous carnival.

[pabozam]

Hello mga peeps, I am new here and would to join in. Baka mabigyan nyo ko ng kunting idea kasi yung nabili ko na Kia Carnival 2001 Model ay nagkaroon ng problema only this morning. Nagpa-engine wash ako and after that napa-andar ko pa naman pero mga 10 secs. lang then biglang namatay at ayaw na umandar uli pero meron redundo ayaw mag tuloy. So una baka battery nag discgarge pina-charge ko pero ganon pa rin. DIY lang ako kaya baka mabigyan nyo ko ng kunting idea kung ano yung mga dapat kung e-check. Btw, na check ko na rin yung Timing belt ok naman. Thanks and God bless this forum.

[ecport]

Hello mga peeps, I am new here and would to join in. Baka mabigyan nyo ko ng kunting idea kasi yung nabili ko na Kia Carnival 2001 Model ay nagkaroon ng problema only this morning. Nagpa-engine wash ako and after that napa-andar ko pa naman pero mga 10 secs. lang then biglang namatay at ayaw na umandar uli pero meron redundo ayaw mag tuloy. So una baka battery nag discgarge pina-charge ko pero ganon pa rin. DIY lang ako kaya baka mabigyan nyo ko ng kunting idea kung ano yung mga dapat kung e-check. Btw, na check ko na rin yung Timing belt ok naman. Thanks and God bless this forum.

You can check on the following:
1. Check the fuse that's related to the solenoid that supplies and cuts of diesel engine to the Carnival's engine. There is a switch that supplies diesel to the engine when you start it. Once the engine has started, this switch(soleniod) cuts off the diesel supply as the fuel now comes from the injectors.
2. Check the starter. The copper contacts may be worn out.

These 2 things will prevent the carnival from starting BUT does not explain why the engine shut down after running for 10 seconds.
Either there is no electricity to start the engine (Starter) or there is no fuel for the engine to start. Since the engine turns every time you start it, the battery is ok. I hope this helps.

[ecport]

Hello mga peeps, I am new here and would to join in. Baka mabigyan nyo ko ng kunting idea kasi yung nabili ko na Kia Carnival 2001 Model ay nagkaroon ng problema only this morning. Nagpa-engine wash ako and after that napa-andar ko pa naman pero mga 10 secs. lang then biglang namatay at ayaw na umandar uli pero meron redundo ayaw mag tuloy. So una baka battery nag discgarge pina-charge ko pero ganon pa rin. DIY lang ako kaya baka mabigyan nyo ko ng kunting idea kung ano yung mga dapat kung e-check. Btw, na check ko na rin yung Timing belt ok naman. Thanks and God bless this forum.

You can check on the following:
1. Check the fuse that's related to the solenoid that supplies and cuts of diesel engine to the Carnival's engine. There is a switch that supplies diesel to the engine when you start it. Once the engine has started, this switch(soleniod) cuts off the diesel supply as the fuel now comes from the injectors.
2. Check the starter. The copper contacts may be worn out.

These 2 things will prevent the carnival from starting BUT does not explain why the engine shut down after running for 10 seconds.
Either there is no electricity to start the engine (Starter) or there is no fuel for the engine to start. Since the engine turns every time you start it, the battery is ok. I hope this helps.

[beryltherese]

dapat po nung nagpa-engine wash kayo pinatakpan nyo yung alternator ng plastic, meron po kasing pyesa dun na nagso-short kapag basa. pa-check nyo po yung alternator sa automotive electrician.....

[beryltherese]

sino na po sa members ang nakapagpa-overhaul na ng carnival/sedona?

tanong ko lang po kung magkano ang labor at magkano inabot kasama na din parts.....