The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[rodski]

Mikey,

I did changed my floor mats and bought one pasadya sa true value. The new one has nomad look alike top and the bottom has spikes. So this prevents the matting to move under your feet. Unfortunately pangit pala pag nomad style. because after two years upod na yung hairs ng nomad. Better get another surface other than the nomad style.

tnx

Rodski

[DacoTyan]

Altec, Hi. I just checked the Kia manuals this morning and noticed that I'm missing nos. 121 to 156. Could you send them again when you can? Thanks.

[altec]

daco, kung wala ka, then that means yung iba na kasabay sa iyo, wala rin? Will send it next week, medyo busy ako this week eh. Rodski, ganun din sa akin! Tru Value rin galing. Nakita ng suki kong accessory shop, sabi nila yung nomad style di dapat matanggal like that, manipis yung sa true value. The problem kasi sa suki ko, walang studs, by the roll then they cut it up. Ang maganda din kasi sa mats na galing sa true value, yung edges niya, nakabalot, so very clean ang dating. Yung lang nga, nakakalbo.

[ericmm]

Guys, what is the on-going resale value of our vans? Mine is a Carnival Park II June 2002. I am going to renew my insurance and I just feel that the van is undervalued and kung may mangyari gusto ko lang tama ang makukuha ko. Alam niyo naman ngayon, uso ang car jacking.

[mikey177]

Thanks for the tips regarding the floor mats. I bought a set of generic nomad-style floor mats from an auto supply store in Urdaneta, and the hairs stated falling out after less than three weeks. Will try to look for a sturdier set of mats when I visit QC.

ericmm::: I also have a 2002 unit, but mine is only an RS model. On the policy that I got, the coverage for own damage or theft is P675,000. Hope this helps.

You could also try looking through the classified ads to get an idea of the Sedona's ridiculously low resale value.

[jordan]

Hello Everyone!

I am not a Kia Sedona/Carnival owner BUT am planning of being one. The family is growing and it is hard to fit all of us in a sedan.

Though I prefer to have a brand new car, budget constraints restrict me, thus I am planning of a buying a 2nd-hand 2001 or 2002 model, probably a Korean version.

With this programmed on my mind, I would like to ask for your opinions regarding:
1. What parts should I check?
2. How do I check these parts myself? (Layman's term will be nice, I'm an idiot in cars, drive lang ng drive)
3. Are the Korean versions serviced at the Kia casa as well?
4. Some say that parts for the Korean versions are hard to find, is this true?



Hope to hear from all you guys.

Thank you!!!

[mikey177]

Welcome, jordan.

If you search a few pages back on this thread, another forum member, leolop, asked about what to check out in a second hand Sedona. These include the engine, suspension, electrical system, air conditioning system, and other components. However, it is really advisable to have a competent mechanic with you when checking a second hand car.

Also, when you say "Korean version," are you referring to the grey market imported Carnivals as contrasted with the local Sedonas?

[diesoline]

1. What parts should I check?
2. How do I check these parts myself? (Layman's term will be nice, I'm an idiot in cars, drive lang ng drive)
3. Are the Korean versions serviced at the Kia casa as well?
4. Some say that parts for the Korean versions are hard to find, is this true?

welcome to tsikot, jordan... some quick answers:

1. imo, you should ask the current owner if he had done a timing belt change if the odo reads above 70k km.

2. bring a trusted mechanic na lang.

3. i can only speak for wheels. yes, wheels (kia new manila) accepts for servicing the grey market units.

4. my carnival is a grey market crdi. except for the fuel filter, i have no problem sourcing for needed parts so far.

[leolop]

Guys, what is the on-going resale value of our vans? Mine is a Carnival Park II June 2002. I am going to renew my insurance and I just feel that the van is undervalued and kung may mangyari gusto ko lang tama ang makukuha ko. Alam niyo naman ngayon, uso ang car jacking.

guys, i'm back. been terribly busy past month.

altec, many many thanks for the manual. i still haven't downloaded it all but the part i did is great. sorry if my suggestion of zipping the files didn't work out.

totoybato, pre maraming salamat for the strut bar and backing mirror. straight from Korea, friends. hassle nga lang dahil yung 3m adhesive nung mirror di kinaya. may parang soft material siya between the adhesive layer to the mirror and the layer to the surface of the spoiler. di yata nag-cure ng mabuti, lumamabot at nag-stretch. hanap na lang ako ng ibang pandikit.

ericmm, sorry can't resist to comment. ako yata kasi ang pinaka beneficiary ng ridiculous low resale value ng carnival, naalala ko na naman sa post mo. hehe.

jordan, even better than magdala ng mekaniko, dalhin mo na lang sa Kia casa for a check up and estimate for any repairs. gawin mo pag desidido ka na sa unit. it's the first thing you should do after buying, may as well do it before.

i'm 1,500 kms into my unit and it's been great. family is really happy and after the initial maintenance, nothing to fix so far. BUT my biodiesel experience hasn't been as great like most. from 20 then 10 percent, i tried bringing it down to 5 percent, hayun nag-usok.

i had to bring it back to 10% and medyo bumawas na. i use seaoil and bioactiv and it comes out to P34.85/l. ouch.

[DacoTyan]

altec, no problem. Thanks.

[mikey177]

I'm going to try out the service of Kia San Fernando Pampanga tomorrow.

Yung family driver kasi namin ang pinapunta ko sa Shell Tarlac para sa 105,000-km change oil ng Sedona. Ayun, pagdrive ko ng unit kinabukasan, may naririnig akong whining sound pag nag-a-accelerate ako. Wala naman akong nakita na hose o connection na natanggal. I hope it's nothing serious

[raddie]

hi mikey ...

baka mababa na yung power steering fluid mo. Kapag nasa below min level kasi magkakaroon ng whining sound na akala mo may hika yung kotse mo. Kapag hindi ko kasi na top up yung P/S fluid ko and malapit na maubos (dahil nga may tulo pa rin yung sa unit ko) ang ginagamit kong indicator eh yung whining sound nga. Kapag nalagyan ko na ng P/S fluid ok na ulit wala na whining sound

[mikey177]

Thanks for the suggestion, raddie. I checked the PS fluid right after reading your post, and it was still at the maximum level. I've never had to top it off either so I guess I could rule out a PS pump leak as the cause of the whining sound. There are also no visible fluid leaks either in the engine bay or under the car.

Anyway, I'll be heading off to Kia Pampanga in a while. Will post their findings this afternoon.

[jordan]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!

mikey177 Yes, I was referrring to a grey market Carnival.
I would really love to read all the posts but I'm using a dial-up and its taking eternity for each page to load. unti-untiin ko na lang

diesoline I'm buying from a reseller so I do not have direct contact with the previous owner to ask for the repairs and changes he did. The reseller don't have a list either. Anyway, the current milleage is 45K.

leolop I would really want to bring the unit to the casa prior to purchase but I think that will not be possible. The reseller allows to have the test run for only 2-3 blocks from the shop.

Last weekend with my wife, son and I went to see the unit , and we really felt in love (I've always loved how a Carnival looks inside-out). And here are what we saw:

GOOD:
1. the exterior was clean with few fading in the paint and minor scratches.
2. the interior was awesome - very clean
3. cd & radio are functioning
4. aircon is good
5. engine is not noisy, maybe because we just used it for a while
6. Dunlop tires

BAD
1. there is kalampag on the left front wheel, which the caretaker in the shop admitted to be a problem in the bushing
2. you have to step hard on the brakes to have an effect, o ganun talaga preno nya, malalim?
3. the steering wheel (spokes) is not aligned in the center
4. fog lamps are flooded

I've mentioned #2. the brakes to a friend, and he said that, it is probably a problem in the Hydro-Vac. Anyone experienced this? Mahal ba yun.

With regards to all the items written under BAD, the reseller will apparently fix all these prior to settlement. Any comments on this?

I hope to hear from all of you again.

Is 480K a good deal for a 2001 Carnival Park II with 45K milleage?

Thanks everyone!

[I]*mikey1777[I/] I'm also from Pangasinan, West-side.

[diesoline]

hello jordan.

i don't know about the others but 45k km for a four year old car is a bit too low (unless it was just utilized as a second car/out-of-town car). sometimes, i log that much mileage in a year's time.

480K? lucky!

the kalampag could be the stabilizer link. P150.-- service charge at toti cruz's zee's carplus.

re the brakes, your friend may be right. the hydrovac booster must have been compromised. i have experienced that twice before in my opel manta (my dearly beloved first car). the assembly was expensive during those times. pero opel part yun ha, hindi kia.

jordan, i was a western pangasinan boy myself for several years; bolinao, to be exact.

[jordan]

* diesoline
Probably used it as a second car, sana.

480K? lucky!

I did the right thing then by making a deposit.

Where is toti cruz's zee's carplus?

Do you have an estimate of how much the hydrovac booster is at Kia?

Once I have the unit, we might come across the NLEX during holidays.

Thanks!

[diesoline]

jordan, here is the link to the zee's carplus thread in this forum, the directions to toti cruz's shop and contact numbers are all in the first post: click

for spare part inquiries, just call fronte in banaue: 7120864 and 7120919

[mikey177]

I got back from Quezon City late last night after having my Sedona checked up at Wheels E.Rod for the previously mentioned whistling sound.

Their findings were that the turbocharger assembly was already damaged, hence the whistling sound when the vehicle accelerates. When the service adviser gave me a quote for the replacement part, I nearly fell off my seat: P40,000

I said I would just bring the van back when it reaches 120,000-km (it is currently at 106,000-km) in about two months, so that if I need to have the oil chain replaced also, it will just be one inconvenience when they open up the engine.

The weird thing is, on my entire drive home to Pangasinan, the whistling sound was nowhere to be heard. Even when I took the van out again this morning, there was no trace of the sound. Para akong na-Twilight Zone, o siguro pinagdasal ni misis na maayos yung sasakyan na hindi malaki ang gastos namin kasi nagpapagawa kami ng bahay ngayon

[jordan]

jordan, here is the link to the zee's carplus thread in this forum, the directions to toti cruz's shop and contact numbers are all in the first post: click

for spare part inquiries, just call fronte in banaue: 7120864 and 7120919

Thanks again!!!

[DacoTyan]

mikey177, what part of the turbo was damaged? The housing? Bearing?

altec, downloaded the missing bits of the Kia Manual. Thanks mucho! You Da Man!