The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[jabr]

Just this afternoon while going home, the warning indicator on my airbag suddenly illuminated. I've restarted the engine but the indicator light of the airbag did not go away, indicating that there may be problem with my srs.

Question:

Can I still safely use the car even if the srs indicator light is flashing. Wont the airbag suddenly deploy while im driving?

Or can i temporarily disable my airbag by taking out the fuse, pending repair?

Thanks in advance.

[utakabo]

Just this afternoon while going home, the warning indicator on my airbag suddenly illuminated. I've restarted the engine but the indicator light of the airbag did not go away, indicating that there may be problem with my srs.

Question:

Can I still safely use the car even if the srs indicator light is flashing. Wont the airbag suddenly deploy while im driving?

Or can i temporarily disable my airbag by taking out the fuse, pending repair?

Thanks in advance.

i have the same problem too for quite sometime now, even the warning light for the abs is also illuminated intermittently (its more frequent that its not illuminated).

can someone answer this?

i have the impression that the lights mean that the feature will not work when it is suppose to work rather than the other way around (i.e. airbag deploying with no apparent reason), but i maybe wrong

[kenzie]

sir JABR, sir Mikey salamat po ulit ......nagloloko po yung gas gauge ko 1/2 full indicated sa gauge but the gas warning indicator is on....pero just about right din naman kse 1 week ko na ginamit yung van.....nag pa check po ako sa mechanic sabi po nya baka daw sa floater na nung gas tank....as for now wla po ako makuhaan nung pyesa.....update ko na lang po kapag may nakuhaan ako....any tips would help po baka na experience nyo na din po itong sitwasyon ko po....thanks in advance

[altec]

i have the same problem too for quite sometime now, even the warning light for the abs is also illuminated intermittently (its more frequent that its not illuminated).

can someone answer this?

i have the impression that the lights mean that the feature will not work when it is suppose to work rather than the other way around (i.e. airbag deploying with no apparent reason), but i maybe wrong

That happened to my ride. While rolling to a stop while braking, it would light up and even give out warning beeps. When I had the casa check it out, it was because the brake pads were worn out. So it could be the same with you.

Regarding my injection pump, its finished by the calibration shop. The casa will install it tomorrow and test the ride. I discovered that when I had my pump fixed the first time around and that was when it was still under warranty in 2006, i discovered today that the timer piston was also the culprit, it causes the pump to whine. So I am asking the casa why is it damaged again.

[utakabo]

altec: i hope your series of problem finally ends this time.

about the pads, i already had them replaced together with the disc brakes but the problem still persists. the first owner actually had it checked at the casa before i bought the unit and he was told that the problem daw is in the computer box(?) so he had it reprogrammed but the problem still shows up every now and then. i am actually thinking that the problem is on the warning light itself and not on the system that it is suppose to monitor (i really hope this is the case) then later on the srs warning light also started acting up.

[altec]

utakabo, kenzie, jabr. I printed out your problems and will bring it with me to the casa. Am going to the casa 30 minutes from now to check on my ride and take up the injection pump problem with them. Will ask them what is their comments on your problems. Will keep you posted what they say about it.

[altec]

Jabr, re airbag light. Possible loose contact at the steering wheel. Suggest to remove the steering wheel, from the steering column, open the cover. Remove the airbag, then remove the electronic sensor assemby that connects the airbag and the steering wheel. This sensor is located between the airbag and the nut that connects the steering wheel to the steering column. Have the connections checked. The loose contact is there. If the loose contact can be repaired, ok. If not, it has to be replaced. The airbag will not deploy while using the car.

Kenzie, yes, may deperensia ang float gauge mo. Sedona and carnival supposedly uses an electronic float. Either it can stil be adjusted or it needs to be replaced.

Utakabo, regarding abs light, its either a dirty sensor at the brake area or thin brake pads. If so, clean sensor or replace brake pads. Another possibility is over voltage of a possible defective alternator. Over voltage? I asked. May nangyari na daw, umabot ng 17 volts ang output ng alternator, causing the electronics to malfunction or misread everything.

[kenzie]

sir Altec, thanks for the help po...hope your evrything okey na po with your ride....thanks again have a good weekend sir

[warp]

You can bring your Kia car to the Kia Family Day Service Clinic ni South Supermarket Pasig, along Amang Rodriguez. They do have Korean engineers there that can help you diagnose the problem. Last day today.

I just availed of the free 4L engine oil and air filter.

http://www.kia.com.ph/inquiry2/servi...&tMenuNo=10073

[altec]

You can bring your Kia car to the Kia Family Day Service Clinic ni South Supermarket Pasig, along Amang Rodriguez. They do have Korean engineers there that can help you diagnose the problem. Last day today.

I just availed of the free 4L engine oil and air filter.

http://www.kia.com.ph/inquiry2/servi...&tMenuNo=10073

Ang sarap naman ng buhay ninyo dyan. Even Mikey can bring his car down to Manila. It will be worth the trip. Am based in Visayas kasi eh. Guys, take advantage of this.

I hope to get my ride later today. The owner promised to give me more discount to defray the cost of repair. Sige, better than none.

[benchph1]

about the 10 seater to 7 seater conversion, the dealers did offer something like this before. costs 10-15k afaik.

guys remember my post before about my problem with the power steering system again? brought the car two days ago to Kia Signet Edsa. they replaced the hi-pressure, suction and return. all in all the damage was 5k. at least they did not opted to replace ALL just like what Kia Pasig is proposing

best of all, got the approximate cost immediately, they have all the parts on stock, and got the car back at 5pm. see the difference?

[jabr]

Jabr, re airbag light. Possible loose contact at the steering wheel. Suggest to remove the steering wheel, from the steering column, open the cover. Remove the airbag, then remove the electronic sensor assemby that connects the airbag and the steering wheel. This sensor is located between the airbag and the nut that connects the steering wheel to the steering column. Have the connections checked. The loose contact is there. If the loose contact can be repaired, ok. If not, it has to be replaced. The airbag will not deploy while using the car..

Altec, thanks man! Really appreciate you for taking the trouble of bringing our problems to the casa for answers.

Finally found what's causing it. Just yesterday, the horn and stereo controls went out, along with the flashing airbag light. Upon reaching home our mechanic dismantled the steering wheel and pulled out and dissected the clock spring assembly, this contains ribbon wires that powers the horn, radio controls, airbag sensor, etc. and discovered that ribbon wire was already broken. We replaced this assembly and all functions were fully restored.

[utakabo]

Utakabo, regarding abs light, its either a dirty sensor at the brake area or thin brake pads. If so, clean sensor or replace brake pads. Another possibility is over voltage of a possible defective alternator. Over voltage? I asked. May nangyari na daw, umabot ng 17 volts ang output ng alternator, causing the electronics to malfunction or misread everything.

i guess i have to check the sensor then. tnx

You can bring your Kia car to the Kia Family Day Service Clinic ni South Supermarket Pasig, along Amang Rodriguez. They do have Korean engineers there that can help you diagnose the problem. Last day today.

I just availed of the free 4L engine oil and air filter.

http://www.kia.com.ph/inquiry2/servi...&tMenuNo=10073

i was suppose to go there last saturday but there was an ads in the inquirer that the family day will be today until the 31st. sayang din yung freebies

Finally found what's causing it. Just yesterday, the horn and stereo controls went out, along with the flashing airbag light. Upon reaching home our mechanic dismantled the steering wheel and pulled out and dissected the clock spring assembly, this contains ribbon wires that powers the horn, radio controls, airbag sensor, etc. and discovered that ribbon wire was already broken. We replaced this assembly and all functions were fully restored.

how much is the clock spring assembly? i inquired at kia pasig 2 weeks ago and they told me its 5k+, so what i used instead is the ordinary rainbow wire and it only cost me 200 pesos. i cant say that the replacement is the culprit to the srs signal since it has been acting up even before i changed the ribbon wire, i'll try to clean the sensor this weekend and see if the problem disappears. i may also check the power output as suggested by altec

[iwulporong]

nka captain seat po un 2002 sedona rs ko... gusto ko mkipagswap ng 3 seater 2nd row seat, baka meron po gusto mkipagswap... medyo extended kasi family ko kaya kulang ung upuan hehehe...any interested party can pm me...thanks....

[jabr]

how much is the clock spring assembly? i inquired at kia pasig 2 weeks ago and they told me its 5k+, so what i used instead is the ordinary rainbow wire and it only cost me 200 pesos. i cant say that the replacement is the culprit to the srs signal since it has been acting up even before i changed the ribbon wire, i'll try to clean the sensor this weekend and see if the problem disappears. i may also check the power output as suggested by altec

Hello Utakabo: I got my clock spring assembly from a friend for a songI really got lucky that he had an excess unit to spare. I also inquired at kia marikina and was quoted 5,500 for that assembly excluding labor.



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[francisy2003]

Hello to everyone,

This is my first time to post here. Its great to have forums like this to help decide future car/van buyers like me… I’ve been reading through this forum the past month and to tell you honestly it was of great help for me to decide into buying a van to replace our Toyota liteace which has been overheating in last few years.

Finally last January 2, 2008 we have decided to buy a 2nd hand van. We got a Kia Carnival LS 2000 model. Aside from some small scratches makinis pa siya. Laking tuwa ng buong family kasi ang lamig ng A/C and of course ang comfortable ride compared to the old liteace. May TV with VCD/CD/radio which is standard daw. The odo reading is just barely 49k km(I hope this is true). We got it for P358k. Looks okey as all indicators, lights, switch, etc are working and walang kalampag.

The second day I used it to go to Makati without any problem (I’m from San pedro Laguna btw). The problem came on the third day(ehto na po!!!).

As I was traversing the north bound of the SSH bago mag exit ng Susana heights the engine just went out of power… My first though was that its the timing belt. And true enough it was the belt. Had it towed to my mechanic’s shop in Pacita. Initial inspection on the side of the engine was that the belt broke down with the tensioner bearing being the source of the problem. Looks like the previous mechanic did some patching up job with the bearing. Nag welding sa center para di maghiwalay siya ayon nag stuck-up. The cylinder head cover was opened too and to my surprise…. whoooo… 4 rocker arms are broken too… Aray san ako bibili nito sigurado set ito sa casa. Thanks to this forum was able to get surplus rockers (P500/each) at a surplus shop in Banawe near Fronte.. I told the mechanic to open the crankcase too since nadurog into small pieces ang rocker arm and have it cleaned down below(sabay change oil na din).

Other parts belt, bearings were purchased in San pedro and in Zapote since we thought it was just the timing belt and bearings that needs to be replaced.

Oh by the way, to j3 engines/carnival owners, I’ve done some experiment as I notice that the j3’s engine uses identical timing belts with the Mitsubishi 4g63 engine (P1600/pc lang compared to the KIA OEM which is 3500++). I tried using it and it works… I just hope it last as the OEM of KIA. Will keep you posted on this little experiment of mine.

Again to all posters in this forum many thanks for the valuable info you have given… sana tuloy-tuloy ang post para magkatulungan tayo. Salamat po…

[jabr]

welcome to chikot bro francisy 2003,

thanks sa info mo about timing belt. saan ka sa SPL? parents ko kasi sa pacita complex lang.

[utakabo]

Hello Utakabo: I got my clock spring assembly from a friend for a songI really got lucky that he had an excess unit to spare. I also inquired at kia marikina and was quoted 5,500 for that assembly excluding labor.
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so it's really that expensive. i actually inquired from some of the recommended auto suppliers here and they have none. just in case your friend has another spare will you please reserve it for me? tell him i can't sing or dance but i can bring someone who will dance hehehe

[kenzie]

welcome po Francisy2003 this forum will be of great help thanks for sharing your experience .....

as for mine well it looks like the gas tank floater is workin after all... i think i was just a lil too paranoid about the gas warning light going off too early but now everything seems normal so far ( still under observation)... as for the floater part i checked almost every where including 2 casa's only one place has it in stock(Hybrid in banawe) athough the guy said i have to bring in the part to compare coz he's not sure if it matches my own model...cost is 1.8-1.9K....oh well abangan na lang ang susunod na kabanata ...gud day ya'all...

[mikey177]

Hello to everyone,

This is my first time to post here....

Welcome to the forum. That's some interesting info regarding the limited interchangeability of some Mitsubishi and Kia parts. Do keep us informed on how the alternative part holds up in the long term. Thanks