The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[diesoline]

mikey, pm!

gregg_g, will pm you too... ot na tayo.

re the pics, i think the hyundai version looks more uppity than the kia's.

[leolop]

with the cover plate removed.

guys, haven't posted in the longest while. need some advise.

i wanted to replace the filter on the aircon, but only reached this stage (see pic by diesoline) i can pull the fillter partway out but it gets blocked by the plastic molding.

i don't want to shell out P700 for labor again to wheels just to put the damn filter in, so what's the next step? am i supposed to take something else off?

[diesoline]

leo, let mang mario have a go at it. painless. just don't look at the disassembled lower (the tan portion) part of the dashboard. the usual charge for cleaning is "pang-yosi" -- whatever that means. the filter can be cleaned several times before replacing. i will have my microfilter replaced soon -- after four cleaning cycles.

[raddie]

hi guys ...

need your help. Lately i have been experiencing massive turbo lag and i dont know what seems wrong. Here is what i have been experiencing:

- lack pulling power (shifting from 2nd to 3rd)
- turbo lag experience around 1250-1750 RPM. Previously i don't experience this or at least not so much noticeable
- medyo smoke belching actually parang may barado tapos may biglang black smoke before the turbo start kicking. Once turbo is engaged ok na yung pulling power. I can still reach 120km/h smoothly
- pulling power 1st gear seems ok
- when in 5th gear at 70km/h, even if i try to step on the pedal no acceleration power at all (RPM range about 1500). Previously hindi ganito experience ko.
- pag idle di naman mausok and i previously don't experience smoke belching in my 2000 Olive Carnival ngayon lang kapag tumatakbo. I am diligent in my oil change ngayon nga i tru to change oil every 3000-4000 km. Pero maitim na agad yung oil even less than a week after oil change.

I suspect baka madumi yung intake manifold. I remember somewhere in this thread nag accumulate yung dumi at carbon doon and my car probably needs cleaning. I would probably want to do this and check the effect. Any suggestion on where or how to go about it.

Appreciate din if you can help me diagnose what seems wrong with my car. Let me know if you need additional details.

thanks.

[gregg_g]

mikey, pm!

gregg_g, will pm you too... ot na tayo.

re the pics, i think the hyundai version looks more uppity than the kia's.

ok tnks in Advance... will be expecting it..

[generic_boy]

hi Raddie,

I think you're suspect on intake manifold is valid. I would highly recommend to have the in-take manifold for check-up. Turbo is basically forcing more air on the chamber in order to facilitate the combustion process hence more power. In issues relating to POOR response of Turbo, the 1st step should be to check the AIR, example... air filters, in-take manifold for unburned oil coming from EGR... etc.

For the unit to work more efficient, mixture of diesel and air should be ok. Black smokes at idle means more diesel and less/unpurified air or the other way around.

So, it's worth to check the air filter and intake manifold.


Cheers!

[toybeats]

available na po ba dito sa pinas yan 2006 sedona?

my family is planning to buy a family van this summer or june... ayaw kasi nila ng starex, ewan ko ba... ako kasi pinapahanap...

what does sedona and carnival differs? i saw a sedona parang mas pogi kesa sa carnival...o emblem lang nagkaiba? tnx!

[mikey177]

raddie::: I second generic_boy's suggestions to check the air filter and intake manifold. I've also noticed that when my air filter is already dirty (when I'm almost due for an oil change), the amount of black smoke produced during hard acceleration may increase and pulling power slightly decreases, compared to when I have a brand new air filter installed.

You could also check your turbo hoses for leaks or damage.

toybeats::: Welcome to the forum

AFAIK, the 2006 Sedona isn't out yet locally. You could call Wheels Inc or another local dealer to inquire about its availability and pricing.

The Carnival is the name of Kia's 1st gen minivan. It was given a makeover after a few years (2nd gen) and in some markets (e.g. USA and RP) the name was changed to Sedona. However, if you get a grey market unit intended for Korea, it will still be carrying the Carnival badge. Second gen grey market Carnivals usually have more features compared to their local Sedona counterparts, but the catch here is that you don't get the casa warranty (3 years or 110,000 km).

[salonika]

I had the same power loss and black smoke problem before (I have a 2001 Carnival LS) and it was more pronounced in the inclines. I took it back to Signet Mandaluyong and was told that Kia was anticipating this problem in the Phils. so they are replacing the muffler assembly plus some other parts for free.

After replacement my Carnival got its old power back, I also haven't experienced the same problem until now.

[leolop]

leo, let mang mario have a go at it. painless. just don't look at the disassembled lower (the tan portion) part of the dashboard. the usual charge for cleaning is "pang-yosi" -- whatever that means. the filter can be cleaned several times before replacing. i will have my microfilter replaced soon -- after four cleaning cycles.

diesoline: ok, i've seen you mention mang mario before, but sorry, where is he? is it ok to post his details? everyone would seem to benefit.

guys, i've asked before whether a mechanical idiot like me can remove the turbo charger and other parts in order to clean the intake manifold and the answer was yes. unfotunately, i'm more known for taking things apart rather than together so i chickened out.

any chance anybody out there is willing to make a step by step procedure how to do this with pics? i had my manifold cleaned by wheels recently and the money sounds to be better saved, especially since it seems the intake should be attended to on a regular basis.