The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[mikey177]

... ako din may kuliglig sa makina pero pag warm up lang after that nawawala din...ano po kaya dhilan nun? salamat po

As Mike G suggested, it's possibly an idler bearing or auto-tensioner that is causing the squeaking sound. Yung sa Sedona ko kasi, may squeaking sound, pero intermittent, pag umaandar ng mabagal sa malubak na daan.

It turns out that some of the insulation or padding on my front bumper was already worn out wher it connects to the chassis of the vehicle, thus causing the noise. Ayun, dinagdagan ng technician ng DIY padding made of cut-up strips of leather, nawala yung ingay.

[alan 99]

Yung kuliglig sound ba, pag-start mo lang naririnig, o andun pa rin kahit naka-idle at warm up na yung kotse?

d nawawala yung ingay mag nag rev ako ng 1500 mawawala. tanong ko lang yung fan belt na pinalit ko hindi orig replacement lang may epekto kaya yon? e yung nagblilink na hold light may remedyo ba yon?

[aaalen]

Mga paps, kaya bang iupgrade sa H.I.D. and mga headlights natin? Meron na po ba sa inyo ang nag H.I.D. na?

[AutoZionPlus]

Hello guys this thread is very helpful to Carnival owners like me. Sobrang haba nga lang grabe hehe, sana may marunong gumawa ng website at i-host ito para may Carnival/Sedona Club na tayo.

I have an inquiry pala at sana po eh may matulong o makapagbigay ng idea o share ng experience. We own a black 01 Carnival 2.9L Diesel with just over 45T kms on the Odo. Ok naman yung van sarap gamitin kasi comfortable at ok talaga sa highway matulin at stable. Matic nga pala ito at well maintained naman.

May napansin lang ako lately parang hirap sya paakyat pag nakahang, yung tipong steep incline then hinto sa gitna. Mabagal sya pumanik, need pang apakan ng madiin yung pedal. Pero once nakabwelo na kayang kaya naman na. Yung black smoke nabawasan na since gumamit kame ng biodiesel pero meron pa din pag biglang apak then tumaas ng 2K RPM. Normal na siguro yun sa engine natin, nawawala din naman kasi after the initial buga. Sa idle wala din naman usok. Na silip na din namin yung EGR ba yun at nalinis na yung langis langis pero di naman makapal na "gunk".

So eto ginawa nag change oil na at palit pati air filter etc. pero parang bitin pa din ang takbo sa umpisa, yung tipong from full stop na launching nung van e bitin sa pickup at pag nakahang sa pataas na kalsada. Pero pag nag change gear na to 2nd, 3rd, 4th gear matulin na. Yung sa 1st gear lang talaga parang feeling ko lang kapos sya, o ganito ba talaga sya dahil mabigat ang kaha? Ngayon ko pa lang kasi nagagamit ito dahil uncle ko nagdadala dati. Nasanay din kasi ako sa kotse na magaan kaya pati pag apak sa accelerator nanibago ako sa Carnival kasi medyo madiin bago humataw. I know I know van po ito at hindi car o SUV, hehe. Just want to sqeeze more juice lang sana o atleast ma-assure ko na normal/optimal lang yung ganitong observations ko or kung may problema ba.

So pinacheck na nga namin sa Casa for diagnosis saka for tune-up lang sana o baka sa adjustment lang, kaso they said na 4pcs Injectors need replacing at 50K ang quote nila kasama labor, EGR and Intake Manifold cleaning, at ATF replacement. Nagtataka lang kame how they came up with that conclusion? Hindi ba kung apat na injector ang may problema eh di na tatakbo ng matino yung sasakyan? Kaso matulin pa din naman, yung first gear lang talaga ang feeling ko bitin sa power. Di ko din sure kung normal lang yun dahil wala naman akong kakilalang may ibang Carnival. Sabi naman ng uncle ko di nya pansin kasi nakasanayan na.

Feeling ko kasi they're trying to pull a wholesale service rather than isolating the problem (di nga matuturing na problema kung tutuusin). Ang bigat kasi ng singil e at paano naman makakasiguro na sira nga yung apat o kung papalitan nga nila? Di naman kasi pinapakita o ini-explain man lang basta sasabihin lang need na palitan. Parang nakakaduda kasi. Sana may makatulong sa inyo at para ma-enlighten din kame. Ayaw naman namin gastusan ng ganun kung di naman kailangan pa, baka adjustment o cleaning lang kasi ang sagot.

Anyway more power to you guys and safe riding! Overall I still like love this van! Lahat naman e may Pros and Cons eh, asa pag mamaintain nalang siguro nagkakatalo talaga. ^_^

Calling sir Diesoline, Altec, Rodski, Benchp1, MikeyG... at yung mga masisipag po na nababasa kong mabait na nagsshare ng knowledge nila about our rides.

[alan 99]

wala na yung kuliglig nagpalit ako tensioner bearing ayos. tanong ko lang upgrade ako ng speakers anong size ng speakers sa harap and napapaltan ba yung tweeter?

[mikey177]

d nawawala yung ingay mag nag rev ako ng 1500 mawawala. tanong ko lang yung fan belt na pinalit ko hindi orig replacement lang may epekto kaya yon? e yung nagblilink na hold light may remedyo ba yon?

I'm glad you were able to isolate the source of the squeaking sound and remedy the problem.

Since manual tranny yung unit ko, wala ako maipapayo tungkol sa blinking hold light. Hintayin na lang natin kung may iba tayong ka-Tsikot na na-encounter ang ganitong problema.

...So pinacheck na nga namin sa Casa for diagnosis saka for tune-up lang sana o baka sa adjustment lang, kaso they said na 4pcs Injectors need replacing at 50K ang quote nila kasama labor, EGR and Intake Manifold cleaning, at ATF replacement. Nagtataka lang kame how they came up with that conclusion? Hindi ba kung apat na injector ang may problema eh di na tatakbo ng matino yung sasakyan?...

if you backread through the thread, you'll find some comments from A/T Carnival owners that there is really less than optimal power when going up steep inclines.

Also, what casa gave you the advice to have the injectors replaced? May ibang Kia casa kasi na mabilis mag-recommend ng parts replacement kahit hindi pa nila na-pinpoint yung talagang problema. Yung Carnival ko, nasa 165,000 km na yung natakbo nya, pero di pa ako nagpapalit ng injectors.

Pwede ka siguro kumuha ng second opinion sa labas, gaya ng sa Central Diesel Calibration, shop ni Doc Diesel na isa ring poster sa Tsikot. I haven't been to his shop personally, but it's located at 1176 Quezon, Avenue Quezon City, contact numbers are 411-3711 to 13.

[altec]

autozion, when you are at a full stop on an uphill incline, some diesel rides have a hard time going uphill. These rides are those that are heavy types: Carnival/sedona, pajero 2.5 na/tdic series. Yung mga auvs don't experience it the same way, or even the isuzu's 4ja1 engines. Diesel rides that have turbos or TDIC units are generally rides that are heavier than the typical diesel ride. The effect here is called turbo lag. Turbopower is felt when you reach around 2-2.5rpm. This is when you feel that sudden rush of power. Ang problema sa ride natin, sa sobrang bigat ng kaha, hirap siya at full stop at an incline. Try this: During an incline na di ka makabwelo, put on the foot brake, put the car in gear, rev it up to the point where the turbo should kick in, release the foot break lever, adjust your clutch to keep the rpm as much as possible. This will help you going up. Word of advise when going uphill: Huwag mag alanganin sa momentum when going up. Because if you drive slow, you will be forced to go back to 1st gear, and you will not have enough momentum or rpm left to let you adequately have power to go 2nd gear. You must have enough momentum and corresponding rpm at 2nd, even 3rd gear to allow you to maintain your gear. If not, you will be stuck at 1st gear all the way up.

Regarding update on my ride. May problema nga yata talaga ang injection pump ko. More frequently, as I rev up my engine to 3K up, pumapalyado na siya. Though not all the time. Parang nagchochoke. Am still waiting for the feedback of the calibration shop that the casa sent my pump to the 1st time around over a year ago kung anong comment nila. Nakakainis na.

[alan 99]

na experience nyo na ba yung hold light na nag bliblink? pm nyo naman ako kung pano mawawala yung hold light. tnx merry xmas in advance.

[altec]

Di ko alam yung hold light na yan ah. M/T sa akin. Might be an A/T exclusive? Para ano ang hold light?

[alan 99]

I had the same plan before, the problem is the audio unit is an integral one and the CD player can be replaced if you can find one of the same make and model. Another problem if you replace the CD player is that you might not be able to use the steering wheel controls anymore. Maybe other owners found a way around this, seems that our Carnival's player is more suited for smooth Korean roads rather than ours.

Try installing Aux/RCA inputs instead, tapos connect an MP3 player.

confirm ko lang kung meron aux input yung oem stereo ng carnival ls?

[alan 99]

Di ko alam yung hold light na yan ah. M/T sa akin. Might be an A/T exclusive? Para ano ang hold light?

para ata mag stay sya sa isang gear. pag nabitin ka o pag paakyat press mo yung hold sa may kambyo.

sinubukan ko kasi dati yung hold gumana tapos nag blink na lang sya tapos hanggang ngayon d pa din nawawala.

[benchph1]

about the Hold light in your dash blinking, it could be an indicator that there's something wrong the transmission. ganyan ang indicator sa Honda AT's. magbiblink kapag nilagay mo sa drive. have it checked immediately.

Autozionplus,

saang casa ito? tamad diagnostics naman yang mga iyan. ayaw na siguro nilang magtroubleshoot para mapinpoint ang eksaktong piyesa na kelangang palitan. diesel fuel injectors rarely need replacement. calibration lang ang kailangan.

[kenzie]

about the Hold light in your dash blinking, it could be an indicator that there's something wrong the transmission. ganyan ang indicator sa Honda AT's. magbiblink kapag nilagay mo sa drive. have it checked immediately.

Autozionplus,

saang casa ito? tamad diagnostics naman yang mga iyan. ayaw na siguro nilang magtroubleshoot para mapinpoint ang eksaktong piyesa na kelangang palitan. diesel fuel injectors rarely need replacement. calibration lang ang kailangan.

uy tagal mong nawala BENCHPH1 dati karamihan sa mga post mo laking tulong din sken .....welcome back !!!

[utakabo]

confirm ko lang kung meron aux input yung oem stereo ng carnival ls?

alan99: walang aux ang stock stereo ng carnival ls. i had a diy audio/video set-up in which i installed an auxilliary jack so that audio comes out through the stereo. hope this helps.

[diesoline]

For Sedonaers looking for surpluses this is what I found: The best bet in Banaue is K Mobis 4141383/7431102

Aside from Goodgear and Fronte which is the best bet for spare parts you can also try the following:
Hybrid 7319861/4126774 and Presto 7120097/7120119

If you are looking for the much sought after Carnival II center wheel cover, "Hybrid" has 2 left for 900 ea.

great post, boquito! much thanks for the numbers of additional parts suppliers.

para ata mag stay sya sa isang gear. pag nabitin ka o pag paakyat press mo yung hold sa may kambyo.

sinubukan ko kasi dati yung hold gumana tapos nag blink na lang sya tapos hanggang ngayon d pa din nawawala.

alan99, don't turn on the hold button when you are launching from a dead stop or if you are on an incline. the hold button makes the car launch from second gear only. best to put the transmission on D.

i personally use the hold button to nudge the A/T to shift up when i feel that the revs are already too high. i use the hold button on long uphills when i am on a good pace already - that is, to lessen the peaky revolutions caused by shifting gears. i use the hold button on long downhills so that the A/T will not go to final gear. personally, i prefer the 2 over hold on D.

about the Hold light in your dash blinking, it could be an indicator that there's something wrong the transmission. ganyan ang indicator sa Honda AT's. magbiblink kapag nilagay mo sa drive. have it checked immediately.

ditto.

[dani0752]

Mga paps, kaya bang iupgrade sa H.I.D. and mga headlights natin? Meron na po ba sa inyo ang nag H.I.D. na?

i have installed HID on my sedona 2002 manual tranny maganda maliwanag talaga i have it installed at carluck banawe matagal ko na siya suki owner type jeep pa lang gamit ko sa kanya na ko nagpapagawa of course pati ung parts sa kanya. importer siya ng HID as far as i know. if your interested try 4139340, 7425097. marami din siya mga quality accessories, alex name nung owner. i can assure you mura sa kanya.

[dani0752]

alan99: walang aux ang stock stereo ng carnival ls. i had a diy audio/video set-up in which i installed an auxilliary jack so that audio comes out through the stereo. hope this helps.

bka pede naman hingi ng info kun paano mo connect yung auxilliary mine is a sedona lx manual 2002 mode necvox nata stereo nun i like your ingenuity sana magaya ko thanks po. ganda ng mga pictures mo

[kenzie]

Quick question po mga fellow carnival lover i need to replace my valve cover gasket...ok na po ba yung replacement korea na lang or OEM kailangan ang problem po kase lahat ng store na tinawagan ko sa banawe puro replacement korea lang ang meron..salamat po

[utakabo]

bka pede naman hingi ng info kun paano mo connect yung auxilliary mine is a sedona lx manual 2002 mode necvox nata stereo nun i like your ingenuity sana magaya ko thanks po. ganda ng mga pictures mo

you got pm sir

[mikey177]

Quick question po mga fellow carnival lover i need to replace my valve cover gasket...ok na po ba yung replacement korea na lang or OEM kailangan ang problem po kase lahat ng store na tinawagan ko sa banawe puro replacement korea lang ang meron..salamat po

Based on the comments of other posters a few pages back, I would recommend sticking with OEM parts, especially if they are plastic or rubber parts in mission-critical areas. May mga nag-feedback kasi na madali masira yung mga replacement Korean rubber parts, like this post by jabr.