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    #1201
    A quote from the column in the Motoring section of the Manila Bulletin entitled "From the Backseat" by Jesus Erle Sebastian, SPMJ, yesteday's edition (Oct 28, 2005)

    ". . .

    We don't know whether it's a compliment or not but the Fortuner 4x4 and the Innova with a 2-liter gasoline engine with VVT-i had similar acceleration and responses to call for more power.

    . . ."

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    #1202
    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    he he he...actually if one can acquire a new car in Singapore, they can be considered rich by Philippine standards already, since vehicles in Singapore cost roughly quadruple the price of the ones in the US or double the prices of that of the Philippines (imports only, not those locally assembled in Laguna).

    For example, in the US, if an entry level BMW 525i series can be readily acquired for $42,500 ( Php 2,380,000 * Php56=$1). In the Philippines, the same BMW 525i will cost Php 4,783,000 (or about double the price). In Singapore it is roughly Php 9,520,000 (+/-) or double that of Philippine prices and quadruple US prices.
    The question is, how much is the per capita income of Singaporeans? The price of a commodity is expensive or not depending on your salary.

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    #1203
    Maybe this'll work for the Fortuner:



    From: http://www.grandprixgroup.com/gpi/ma...sp?news_id=817

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    #1204
    Quote Originally Posted by Mushi Mushi
    Hanggang ngayon ba nasa Denial Stage pa rin kayo? This is the story for months and months now. As has been said here in Tsikot many times over - start offering bribes to your dealer and your Fortuner will come out before Christmas.

    Lalo na ngayon, magpa-pasko pa, people will get their bonus, so more people are capable of paying more bribes, so if you will stick with your original payment maraming makakasingit sayo, then you have to wait till the holiday season is over before you get yours (perhaps around January dahil sigurado matumal ang benta by that time dahil ubos ang pera ng mga tao). :praning:
    i agree with you. talked to another dealer and inquired a 4x2 vvti. marami daw silang mga stock. siguro iniipon muna nila para sa mga "potential" buyers. i can get daw a unit asap if i will avail of the IHI, IHF, kelseat, and xenon HID. gusto ko malaman kung totoo so i filled up an application form. will keep you posted of the developments.

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    #1205
    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    A quote from the column in the Motoring section of the Manila Bulletin entitled "From the Backseat" by Jesus Erle Sebastian, SPMJ, yesteday's edition (Oct 28, 2005)

    "We don't know whether it's a compliment or not but the Fortuner 4x4 and the Innova with a 2-liter gasoline engine with VVT-i had similar acceleration and responses to call for more power."
    Hmmm... Sounds rather vague to me. I am not getting it...

    Please elaborate...

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    #1206
    beebs, pati xenon HiD standard na rin ngayon sa bibilhing fortuner? grabe ah...

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    #1207
    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP
    Maybe this'll work for the Fortuner:

    From: http://www.grandprixgroup.com/gpi/ma...sp?news_id=817
    With a shorter wheelbase compared to the HiLux (3.085M), I would think this wouldn't work just as well on a Fortuner (2.750M) . The Fortuner's shorter wheel base will mean a higher center of gravity and, consequently, a higher probability of tipping-over.

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    #1208
    Quote Originally Posted by vicoyski
    Hmmm... Sounds rather vague to me. I am not getting it...

    Please elaborate...
    That's just about it. That's how vague the author/writer of the article is.

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    #1209
    Quote Originally Posted by beebs
    peeps, ilang months bago niyo nakuha unit niyo? medyo nawawalan na ako ng pag-asa. mukhang nagkakasingitan na kasi sa pila sa dealer ko. to be exact, 5 months na akong naghihintay. i'm slowly starting to lose my patience. parang naghihintay ako sa wala.....
    2 months po sa min, aug 25 itinawag ung unit sa min pero nakita ko ung date sa susian nya aug 5 cguro po nasa kelseat warehouse p, baka ung dumating ngaung october 1 st week ng nov pa marelease, (sana) marami din ung sumisingit sa pila kaya ung iba di agad mabigyan,, nung minsan my nakasabay kami sa slex, black 3.0V red ang plaka,

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    #1210
    Quote Originally Posted by kent
    ...nung minsan my nakasabay kami sa slex, black 3.0V red ang plaka,
    Baka yan din ang nakita ko sa Roxas Blvd., ang kapal ng mukha! Akala ko hirap ang 'pinas at kailangan magtipid ng gobyerno! Tsk tsk...

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    #1211
    dami ko ng nakitang fortuners na 3.0 D4D na government owned = red plates. tsk tsk...baka daw kasi diesel naman kaya matipid sa fuel...hehehe

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    #1212
    Dapat, red plates and kina-carjack, hindi private vehicles.

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    #1213
    Quote Originally Posted by zechs
    dami ko ng nakitang fortuners na 3.0 D4D na government owned = red plates. tsk tsk...baka daw kasi diesel naman kaya matipid sa fuel...hehehe
    baka yan po ung ipinalit dun sa mga service nila w/ v8 engines (landcruiser etc.) tipid nga nman po kc diesel naman ngaun hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by attynorby
    Baka yan din ang nakita ko sa Roxas Blvd., ang kapal ng mukha! Akala ko hirap ang 'pinas at kailangan magtipid ng gobyerno! Tsk tsk...
    OT:

    The govt also happen to own gas guzzlers like Ford Expeditions and Lincoln Town Cars. Purchasers in govt dont care what car fits the dept's present and future needs. They'll just get whatever vehicle tickles them right that very momemt. Absolute power corrupts.

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    #1215
    Source: Manila Bulletin:Motoring Section

    Driving Mister Pogi

    When Toyota introduced the Fortuner, the third iteration of its IMV project to build three distinct vehicles from a single platform, demand outstripped supply that virtually all units brought in were sold out before the week of the launch was over.

    At least that was Toyota?s version of the usual stories of long waiting lists that come out after every new vehicle launch. With Toyota, the long waiting list phenomenon is true. Although it could also be true Toyota ordered just a limited amount of vehicles.

    But colleagues here in this paper were heard boasting they had ordered one even before the launch.

    One correspondent ordered a Fortuner after seeing just the brochure and trusting the salesman?s words that the real product far looked better than the picture.

    That certainly is true and the Fortuner again proves that Filipinos will buy a vehicle mainly because it?s "guwapo." Riding high on the ground (220mm ground clearance) on 265/70 R16 tires wrapped around 7JJ alloy wheels with center cap with large lights, grille and emblem, the Fortuner should win any Mr. Pogi or Body Beautiful contest for sport utility vehicles.

    Toyota also packed a lot of goodies in the 4695mm x 1840mm x 1850mm Fortuner to add to its pogi-ness.

    The Fortuner 4x4 comes standard with multi-reflector halogen fog lamps, side step with step cover, roof rail, chrome rear spoiler, rear window defogger and rear windshield wiper.

    No cow was killed in the making of the Fortuner which can seat seven adults comfortably in moquette-upholstered seats. The second and third row seats can be configured to accommodate cargo of varying sizes.

    There are at least 14 beverage holders hidden away in the dash, center consoles, side panels and doors. And at least 21 compartments for whatever is needed to be stored or put away. An overhead console provides hiding places for driving glasses or shades.

    Dash and instrumentation feature Optitron meter gauges, a cool metal panel for the center instrument cluster, two-tone dashboard, multi-information display.

    For entertainment, there?s a Fujitsu Ten- 2D in-dash CD/ MP3 player with radio tuner and six speakers.

    Of course windows, doorlocks and rear view mirrors are electronically controlled with controls laid out by the gods of ergonomics. Dual climate controls provide cool air throughout the cabin.

    There are two auxiliary power outlets for chargers and adaptors for mobile phones or laptops.

    In the name of safety, Toyota outfitted the Fortuner with dual airbags, safety belts for seven passengers, child protection locks, high mount stop lamps, side door impact beams, collapsible steering column, anti-intrusion brake pedal and the Toyota Vehicle Security System.

    The Fortuner is powered by a three-liter inline 4 diesel engine with direct injection common rail system, turbo and intercooler that generates a maximum of 163ps at 3400 rpm and 343 Nm of torque from 1400 to 3200 rpm.

    We don?t know whether it?s a compliment or not but the Fortuner 4x4 and the Innova with a 2-liter gasoline engine with VVT-i had similar acceleration and responses to calls for more power.

    The Fortuner 4x4 has a full-time 4x4 drivetrain with shift-on-the-fly capability from high to low gear and 4-speed automatic with ECT and gate-type shifter.

    The suspension system features double wishbone with coil spring and stabilizer in front and 4-link with coils and lateral rod in the rear. Again, the Innova and the Fortuner had similar firm but stable ride.

    Stopping power comes from front ventilated discs and rear lead-trailing drums with ABS which were responsive to light pressure on the brake pedal.

    Is the Fortuner worth the wait? Well, it certainly is "pogi."

    ANY REACTIONS???

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    #1216
    The writer forgot to include the competitive pricing of the Fortuner which, aside from its looks, is the other major attraction.

    With two price increases and the impact of EVAT, along with the introduction of new vehicles next year, the wait may finally be over -- by not choosing and lining up for the Fortuner,

    Easy driving!

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    #1217
    i really dont enjoy reading those articles....pro-toyota kse e....may mga allowance pang nakukuha yan sa toyota....hehehehe

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    #1218
    Quote Originally Posted by michael_pmc
    i really dont enjoy reading those articles....pro-toyota kse e....may mga allowance pang nakukuha yan sa toyota....hehehehe
    Yup! If you ask me, the best review of any vehicle would come from an actual owner.



    It's just a pity that Toyota won't even give us owners more freebies, inspite of our buying their units and giving them favorable reviews.
    Last edited by vicoyski; October 31st, 2005 at 01:57 PM.

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    #1219
    There was nothing in that review that we really haven't known before. Kahit yung mga owner reviews iba-iba rin naman. Some claim na matagtag yung Fortuner, pero if you try it out ok naman.

    I'm still betting that cash buyers (no deals) will get their units by July 2006.

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    #1220
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    There was nothing in that review that we really haven't known before. Kahit yung mga owner reviews iba-iba rin naman. Some claim na matagtag yung Fortuner, pero if you try it out ok naman.
    That's what make owner reviews great. They tell it the way they feel it... Former car owners will tend to say it's matagtag. Former SUV owners will tend to say it rides ok.

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