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    #801
    People are smarting up. There are more buyers of VVT-i (gas) than D-4D (diesel) at least for Innovas.

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    #802
    Will adding biodiesel additive lessen the problem?

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    #803
    Have 4 Toyotas (Fortuner, 2 Hi Ace, Innova) with D4D maintanined by company mechanic , luckily no problem , he advise changing the fuel filter every 5000 km. Fuel filter from Casa less than P400. and only takes 10 minutes to replaced. You will be surprise how dirty it is.

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    #804
    hindi lang toyota ang may problem sa d4d... even nissans

    kanina pauwi ako a BRAND NEW nissan navarra was infront of me btw i was driving a isuzu sportivo..grabe ung usok nung navarra every time na aacelerate siya may black smoke daig pa ung sportivo ko.. ang may mags siya i think 20" ang pangit ng offset nakausli ang goma.. for sure ako sobrang putik nun.. and btw naalala ko may nagpost din dito na may navarra na malakas ang usok.. kaya hindi lang d4d ang may prob.

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    #805
    black to grayish smoke can be attributed to our DIRTY diesel fuel.. unlike in other countries na mataas ang EURO level ng diesel fuel.. sa atin puro sulfur pa din..kaya hirap ang mga crdi na control yung usok...

    yung case ng D4D problem is undetermined at nanghuhula lang ang toyota sa solusyon like changing pump, changing catalaytic converter, resetting ecu etc etc etc..

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    #806
    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Pacheck up mo sa shop ni Dieseldude, baka sa injection pump ang problem, kung meron man.
    sir puedeng malaman kung saan ang shop ni Dieseldude thanks

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    #807
    Quote Originally Posted by winnifred View Post
    Have 4 Toyotas (Fortuner, 2 Hi Ace, Innova) with D4D maintanined by company mechanic , luckily no problem , he advise changing the fuel filter every 5000 km. Fuel filter from Casa less than P400. and only takes 10 minutes to replaced. You will be surprise how dirty it is.
    mga sir, share nyo naman po yung mga steps kung pano palitan yung fuel fiter ng innova. tska yung proper cleaning ng EGR kung pwede ito i-DIY sa bahay. our innova is a 09 d4d mt, 42++ sa odo, and thank god wala pa naman ako nagiging problem. and i really hope i dont. under warranty pa kaso we decided to have our oil change and other PMS in a gasoline station here at our place. i know this is a very big risk considering d4d's reputation, pero this way nakakapamili ako ng products na gagamitin, i do save money at nakikita ko ang ginagawa sa innova namin. but i still follow my car manual religiously when it comes to maintenance. expect those parts that says "Bring your Toyota to the nearest dealer immediately tsaka Contact your Toyota Dealer.

    Sir dieseldude you are a big help to a lot of tsikoteers. thanks

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    #808
    I'm now in Hongkong and I see a lot of Toyota HiAce (Commuter type).. not sure if the models here are D4D..

    but.... tama ba ako na most (huge percentage) of D4D problems are on Innovas? Small percentage lang sa Fortuner.... how about sa HiAce? May mga reports na kaya?

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    #809
    Quote Originally Posted by wowiesy View Post
    I'm now in Hongkong and I see a lot of Toyota HiAce (Commuter type).. not sure if the models here are D4D..

    but.... tama ba ako na most (huge percentage) of D4D problems are on Innovas? Small percentage lang sa Fortuner.... how about sa HiAce? May mga reports na kaya?
    From experience, the problem seems to exist on all models. The Innova just has a higher population compared to the the others.

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    #810
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin3000 View Post
    hindi lang toyota ang may problem sa d4d... even nissans

    kanina pauwi ako a BRAND NEW nissan navarra was infront of me btw i was driving a isuzu sportivo..grabe ung usok nung navarra every time na aacelerate siya may black smoke daig pa ung sportivo ko.. ang may mags siya i think 20" ang pangit ng offset nakausli ang goma.. for sure ako sobrang putik nun.. and btw naalala ko may nagpost din dito na may navarra na malakas ang usok.. kaya hindi lang d4d ang may prob.
    Tsambahan lang talaga. Noon pag brand new auto mo wala kaba ngayon pag minalas buwan pa lang perwisyo na.

    DD, any comments on the new Petron Turbodiesel and upcoming type form Shell? Will it help solve these issues kaya?

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    #811
    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseldude View Post
    From experience, the problem seems to exist on all models. The Innova just has a higher population compared to the the others.
    *Dieseldude. Based on you're experience, this problem is just as prevalent in the 3 liter fortuners as in the other models? Thanks and more power.

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    #812
    Quote Originally Posted by club25 View Post
    sir puedeng malaman kung saan ang shop ni Dieseldude thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseldude View Post
    From experience, the problem seems to exist on all models. The Innova just has a higher population compared to the the others.
    Master Dieseldude, PM mo na lang si Club25 ng shop details mo.

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    #813
    mga sir, share nyo naman po yung mga steps kung pano palitan yung fuel fiter ng innova. tska yung proper cleaning ng EGR kung pwede ito i-DIY sa bahay. Fuel filter replacement is easy. Turn the round retainer to unlock the bottom housing, then pull it down. Remove the filter element and replace. The EGR is not a DIY thing.

    our innova is a 09 d4d mt, 42++ sa odo, and thank god wala pa naman ako nagiging problem. and i really hope i dont. under warranty pa kaso we decided to have our oil change and other PMS in a gasoline station here at our place. i know this is a very big risk considering d4d's reputation, pero this way nakakapamili ako ng products na gagamitin, i do save money at nakikita ko ang ginagawa sa innova namin. but i still follow my car manual religiously when it comes to maintenance. expect those parts that says "Bring your Toyota to the nearest dealer immediately tsaka Contact your Toyota Dealer. You may lose your warranty support if PMS is not done by the casa.

    Sir dieseldude you are a big help to a lot of tsikoteers. thanks

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    #814
    Mike from pampanga, 5 years na yun Innova j, namamatay every time you start without stepping on the gas pedal, so kailangan naka step ka sa gas, I mean nakaalalay, 95k kms na yun unit, ano kaya yun problema? Hindi naman dati ganon isang click lang continues yun andar,

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    #815
    mababa ung menor? try to bring it to casa sir

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    #816
    Quote Originally Posted by michaelgalas View Post
    Mike from pampanga, 5 years na yun Innova j, namamatay every time you start without stepping on the gas pedal, so kailangan naka step ka sa gas, I mean nakaalalay, 95k kms na yun unit, ano kaya yun problema? Hindi naman dati ganon isang click lang continues yun andar,
    This is probably a supply pump problem which can easily be fixed.

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    #817
    will petron and shell solve these common rail engines since they will launch a new diesel fuel formulated for common rail and conventional diesel engines?

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    #818
    Quote Originally Posted by myas110 View Post
    will petron and shell solve these common rail engines since they will launch a new diesel fuel formulated for common rail and conventional diesel engines?
    If you're talking about Toyota's unexpected engine shut-downs, I don't think so. It would be good though if Petron and Shell worked on further improving our diesel quality.

    From my experience, the problem seems to be specific to the Denso common rail pump which Toyota uses as this fault rarely occurs on Bosch equipped diesel cars.

    The solution is through an improvement in Toyota's supply pump, and not on the diesel fuel quality.

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    #819
    Hello Dieseldude!

    I am a new member here. I am an a car afficionado myself. I read extensively about the D4D choking problem in this forum.

    Just one curious question: all these years that this choking problem had been happening, was there any point in time that TMPC issued a formal re-call to the affected D4D units consumer public or even a silent re-call at all that you are aware of?

    Thanks!

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    #820
    Quote Originally Posted by wowiesy View Post
    I'm now in Hongkong and I see a lot of Toyota HiAce (Commuter type).. not sure if the models here are D4D..

    but.... tama ba ako na most (huge percentage) of D4D problems are on Innovas? Small percentage lang sa Fortuner.... how about sa HiAce? May mga reports na kaya?
    I'm now back in Manila.. naalala ko lang yung post ko dito... but I think the Hongkong HiAce's are sporting the 3.0 D4D...

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