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    #861
    Quote Originally Posted by jefskie View Post
    BUMP ko lang po itong question ko. thanks
    actually nasa sa iyo naman ang desisyon.

    sabi mo nabasa mo na yung mga good and bad points so its really up to you if you still want to buy or not...

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    #862
    Quote Originally Posted by jefskie View Post
    BUMP ko lang po itong question ko. thanks
    it's up to you, it's your gamble. Umakyat ako ng baguio, nilalagpasan lang ako ng grandia d4d na puno ng tao at wala man lang usok! baka kaya wala prob ang grandia is dahil japan CBU ito. Iba ang parts.

    Although risk mo talaga kung mag diesel ka. makatipid ka ng malaki sa gas, pero gumastos ka ng mas malaki sa repair pag minalas ka.

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    #863
    Quote Originally Posted by ajOT View Post
    Sir, if I may ask; if dirty diesel is a scapegoat or lets say the lame excuse from the dealer; the real culprit on these then, that, the fuel pump of most Toyota are faulty or not working as to how it is expected to work?
    what can be the remedy for these cause, as we already own a Toyota car now!?! we just cant cry over spilled milk on these; do they have any remedial on these? what does the public do about these?
    what spilled milk? tumirik na ba ang kotse mo? just enjoy the superior product that it is. chances are, you won't be disappointed. besides, worrying never solved anything.
    tanong ko lang: ilan ba talaga ang mga "defective" d4d engines diyan? hindi kaya pa-ikot-ikot lang ang mga kuwento, kaya mukhang napakarami nila?
    just asking (because i don't know the answer)..
    Last edited by dr. d; October 2nd, 2010 at 12:30 AM.

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    #864
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    what spilled milk? tumirik na ba ang kotse mo? just enjoy the superior product that it is. chances are, you won't be disappointed. besides, worrying never solved anything.
    tanong ko lang: ilan ba talaga ang mga "defective" d4d engines diyan? hindi kaya pa-ikot-ikot lang ang mga kuwento, kaya mukhang napakarami nila?
    just asking (because i don't know the answer)..
    Bro, that's the problem, its not a superior product, toyota has a big problem on several of their units, this d4d problem is just one of them.. In the case of the stalling, that is worrying, because if your engine stalls, your braking and power steering won't work properly, have you tried or at least imagine doing 100kph and your engine dies(Nlex, Slex, Sctex, etc..) This is a real problem, but the problems seems to be on the 06-08 models only, we haven't heard any stalling from 09 and up models.. It is true that not all D4d engines experienced this, but some do.. You should consider yourself lucky as it hasn't or hopefully won't happen to you, but if it did, then you'd probably say the same thing as we do.. Madali lang magsalita bro, kasi hindi mo pa na-eexperience, pero if you do, then that's a different story.. My point is, this isn't a bogus story, this is real.. That is why some of the d4d units had their fuel pump/SCV changed warrranty, for those units who already have expired warranty, tough luck..

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    Quote Originally Posted by brellrain View Post
    Bro, that's the problem, its not a superior product, toyota has a big problem on several of their units, this d4d problem is just one of them.. In the case of the stalling, that is worrying, because if your engine stalls, your braking and power steering won't work properly, have you tried or at least imagine doing 100kph and your engine dies(Nlex, Slex, Sctex, etc..) This is a real problem, but the problems seems to be on the 06-08 models only, we haven't heard any stalling from 09 and up models.. It is true that not all D4d engines experienced this, but some do.. You should consider yourself lucky as it hasn't or hopefully won't happen to you, but if it did, then you'd probably say the same thing as we do.. Madali lang magsalita bro, kasi hindi mo pa na-eexperience, pero if you do, then that's a different story.. My point is, this isn't a bogus story, this is real.. That is why some of the d4d units had their fuel pump/SCV changed warrranty, for those units who already have expired warranty, tough luck..
    so i get it your milk spilled? that your d4d called it quits? I am sorry for that. but i didn't say the problem was bogus. i have been asking for some time now, "just how big is this problem of toyota's?" "is it a big problem, or just some.." if someone can only give us the figures.. sa tagalog, ilan ba talagang d4d ang nagka-problema? pusible kayang mukhang marami lang, dahil nag-iingay nang husto ang mga nabiktimang owners? (not to mean that they shouldn't make noise, because they have every right to.)
    of the many thousands of d4d models that have been sold, just how many of them have spewed black smoke or stalled? personally, i have never chanced upon a hilux, fortuner or innova spewing black smoke on the road. and i have never seen a stalled innova, fortuner or hilux at the side of the road, either.. ( but i have heard of avanzas and VWs going up in flames..) you may have an axe to grind against toyota, but that's only you. i don't have an axe to grind, and that's only me. (well, i do have an axelet, but that's another story.) but all in all, i am very satistied with my 2005 d4d. that is what i am communicating in this thread. i speak from personal experience, that it is a superior product. so good, in fact, that i am hesitant to try a different model when time comes for me to get another car. what i write here, is my personal opinion, based on my personal experience, and not something i read from somewhere.. isn't that what the original question was? something like "...what do we think about...?"...
    it is unfortunate that cars do malfunction... but what brand of car hasn't had this experience?
    and oh! i (and i'm sure many others) do not know of toyota's other big problems. perhaps you can tell us of toyota's other big problems, so that potential buyers may know what they will be up against..
    Last edited by dr. d; October 4th, 2010 at 01:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    what spilled milk? tumirik na ba ang kotse mo? just enjoy the superior product that it is. chances are, you won't be disappointed. besides, worrying never solved anything.
    tanong ko lang: ilan ba talaga ang mga "defective" d4d engines diyan? hindi kaya pa-ikot-ikot lang ang mga kuwento, kaya mukhang napakarami nila?
    just asking (because i don't know the answer)..
    dont cry over spilled milk is a term or lemme say is just an idiomatic expression; its a sort of like you have something and whine about it....
    may car have not experienced on these tirik at high speed though; but experienced it stalled once or twice as I could say....
    to let you know am not worrying on these as you may be right that these would not solve anything; but it was a question we have to ask is our Manufacturer has any resolution to resolve the issue about these?

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    #867
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    of the many thousands of d4d models that have been sold, just how many of them have spewed black smoke or stalled?

    im not a toyota d4d owner (i drive my cute toy car suzuki) but many times i spotted toyota d4d fortuner and innova spewing black smoke.. one instance is at edsa guadalupe (southbound) the innova is struggling uphill spewing black smoke. another is at macapagal ave. (southbound), a white innova spewing black smoke on low rpm.. you can see the tail gate stained heavily by the carbon from the exhaust.. another is at macapagal ave. (northbound) but this time a fortuner.. another at antipolo, a brandnew d4d hiace stalled going uphill.. the owner thought the engine overheated so he poured water over his radiator

    it seems toyota d4d had improved since then.. well since toyota is a well known brand here in the phils. especially for its bullet proof engines, people have the highest expectations when they introduced these D4D engine but it turns out it was a dud engine after all..

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    #868
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    im not a toyota d4d owner (i drive my cute toy car suzuki) but many times i spotted toyota d4d fortuner and innova spewing black smoke.. one instance is at edsa guadalupe (southbound) the innova is struggling uphill spewing black smoke. another is at macapagal ave. (southbound), a white innova spewing black smoke on low rpm.. you can see the tail gate stained heavily by the carbon from the exhaust.. another is at macapagal ave. (northbound) but this time a fortuner.. another at antipolo, a brandnew d4d hiace stalled going uphill.. the owner thought the engine overheated so he poured water over his radiator

    it seems toyota d4d had improved since then.. well since toyota is a well known brand here in the phils. especially for its bullet proof engines, people have the highest expectations when they introduced these D4D engine but it turns out it was a dud engine after all..
    Kaya nga binenta agad ng friend ko yun Fort niya na d4d engine e. After he acquired the unit. in a few months time hindi na makaagkyat ng parking space sa mga malls like in eastwood city ayun binenta niya agad para good price pa.

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    D4D problem- 2006 Toyota Hilux 3.0 D4D... Complete Engine Rebuild?!
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCifyh9Npf4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCifyh9Npf4[/ame]

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    #870
    wEeEehh bumili kami ng toyota innova sport runner weEeehh !!! pagkalabas palang palang sa casa wE gas up SHELL V POWER DIESEL try nyu ganda sa makina!!!

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    Toyota recalling 1.53 million cars globally


    By MALCOLM FOSTER,Associated Press Writer - Friday, October 22

    TOKYO – Toyota is recalling 1.53 million Lexus, Avalon and other models, mostly in the U.S. and Japan, for brake fluid and fuel pump problems, the latest in a string of quality lapses for the world's No. 1 automaker.
    Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday it will call back for repairs about 740,000 cars in the U.S. and 599,000 in Japan. The remainder are in Europe and other markets around the world.
    Over the past year, Toyota has recalled more than 10 million cars and trucks worldwide for a variety of problems, from faulty gas pedals and floor mats that can trap accelerators, to braking problems in its Prius hybrid. In August, Toyota called back 1.33 million Corolla sedans and Matrix hatchbacks in the U.S. and Canada because their engines may stall.
    The majority of vehicles this time around need to be fixed for a problem with the brake master cylinder, which could lead to weaker braking power, said spokesman Paul Nolasco in Tokyo.
    Some models in Japan and elsewhere _ but not in North America _ have an electrical problem with the fuel pump, which could lead the engine to stall, Nolasco said.
    No accidents have been reported from the two defects, he said.
    Ryuichi Saito, auto analyst with Mizuho Investors Securities in Tokyo, said Toyota may have learned a lesson from earlier this year when it faced harsh criticism, particularly in the U.S., for dragging its feet on safety problems and recalls. American regulators hit Toyota with a $16.4 million fine for failing to promptly tell the government about its car defects.
    "Toyota's image suffered because it was slow and so it is trying to be quick with its response," Saito said.
    The automaker has been working to overhaul its quality controls and respond more aggressively to customer complaints in the fallout from its recall crisis.
    The models affected by the latest recall in the U.S. include the 2005 and 2006 Avalon, 2004 through 2006 non-hybrid Highlander and Lexus RX330, and 2006 Lexus GS300, IS250, and IS350 vehicles, the company said in a release from its U.S. headquarters in Torrance, California.
    The release said a small amount of the brake fluid could slowly leak from the brake master cylinder, resulting in illumination of the brake warning lamp.
    Toyota will notify owners around the world by mail to come for repairs at no charge, Nolasco said.
    The models affected in Japan include the Crown, Crown Majesta, Harrier, Mark X, Alphard, Kluger, Lexus GS350, Lexus IS250, and Lexus IS350. The production date of the models ranges from May 2002 to November 2005.
    Two models in Japan _ the Lexus GS350 and the Crown _ are affected by both problems.
    In Japan, Toyota's image has taken less of a beating. And despite the safety woes, the Prius has been Japan's top-selling model this year.
    From January through August, Toyota sold 5.6 million vehicles globally, up 13 percent from a year earlier

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    #872
    maayos pa kaya ng toyota ang problems nila dito? eh parang d nila ki-niclaim yung defects

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    #873
    defects/problems of this magnitude may have root causes pointing to internal problems with the company na years in the making and years to fix... ang translation nyan, toyota cars will generally continue to have problems sa future

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    #874
    is it possible to replace first the scv (innova 07 diesel) before or without replacing the whole supply pump?

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    #875
    Quote Originally Posted by Bolkow View Post
    is it possible to replace first the scv (innova 07 diesel) before or without replacing the whole supply pump?
    From previous posts here, may repair kit ang supply pump and I think kasama ang SCV.

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    #876
    txs sir,twice na kasi biglang namatay engine ko from a complete stop, i dont know kung may problem sa gas float or may tubig na tangke ko,i went to denso banawe and sabi ng technician dun after running the diagnostic tool ok naman daw though recommend nya palitan na supply pump ko,at present maintain ko half tank and so far hindi na naulit, ill try na rin siguro replace and drain my tank, pag ganun pa rin drop by na ko central diesel, thanks

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    #877
    Quote Originally Posted by mikomac View Post
    maayos pa kaya ng toyota ang problems nila dito? eh parang d nila ki-niclaim yung defects
    Top seller pa din naman daw,kaya no probs???

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    #878
    Quote Originally Posted by Bolkow View Post
    txs sir,twice na kasi biglang namatay engine ko from a complete stop, i dont know kung may problem sa gas float or may tubig na tangke ko,i went to denso banawe and sabi ng technician dun after running the diagnostic tool ok naman daw though recommend nya palitan na supply pump ko,at present maintain ko half tank and so far hindi na naulit, ill try na rin siguro replace and drain my tank, pag ganun pa rin drop by na ko central diesel, thanks
    Feedpump, baka sira na.....

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    #879
    sir desert fox pwede pa enlighten naman ako re feedpump thanks

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    #880
    Quote Originally Posted by Bolkow View Post
    sir desert fox pwede pa enlighten naman ako re feedpump thanks
    ganyan ang hitsura ng mga feedpumps....ewan ko lang sa Toyota....


    http://www.turbocompressori.net/feed_pumps.htm

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