List of Toyota D4D Probems (Choking, Hard Starting, etc.)

[bumblebok]

hi! toyota owners i am new to tsikot.. I own a 08InnovaD4d my odo is 35+++... I just want to ask how much yung speed ng innova nyo on 2000rpm? In original tire size 205/65R15...because mine now is only 75kph at 2000rpm... and i notice my engine consume more fuel..and not very responsive in overtaking.I compare it when its odo 5+++. thanks for sharing.

[Wh1stl3r]

At least supply pump problems are not limited to Toyota diesels. I've seen a Starex and a Ford Ranger having their supply pumps replaced, and both were under 40TKm.

Would you guys be willing to pay 20% more for cleaner diesel? Getting legislation for cleaner diesel would greatly lessen if not eliminate these issues and give us more engine choices. Maybe Toyota can finally bring in the higher powered 2.5D4d.

[myas110]

maybe it's the quality of fuel here in the PH is one the problems, i guess, why these modern diesel engines have some problems (any models).
My tip would be: Gas up at Petron, Caltex and Shell.

[Dieseldude]

nung sa megamall, tiningnan ko yung Innova doon dati, tapos tinanong ko yung sales agent kung kamusta na ang D4D problem. wala, ngiti lang siya hehehe.

At least, hindi sha nagsinungaling.

[Dieseldude]

maybe it's the quality of fuel here in the PH is one the problems, i guess, why these modern diesel engines have some problems (any models).
My tip would be: Gas up at Petron, Caltex and Shell.

Correct. And since the rains will be coming in, I suggest that we gas up at stations that don't experience flooding.

[timo07]

At least supply pump problems are not limited to Toyota diesels. I've seen a Starex and a Ford Ranger having their supply pumps replaced, and both were under 40TKm.

Would you guys be willing to pay 20% more for cleaner diesel? Getting legislation for cleaner diesel would greatly lessen if not eliminate these issues and give us more engine choices. Maybe Toyota can finally bring in the higher powered 2.5D4d.

Sure!! If it will really result to a substantial increase in engine reliability. At that increase, it is still cheaper than gasolines.

Correct. And since the rains will be coming in, I suggest that we gas up at stations that don't experience flooding.

After Ondoy, I only fuelled up at Marikina stations, specifically within our area which was hard hit, starting March of this year. Iwas noon kasi baka may tubig pa. Pero ngayon balik na uli sa suki ko.

[pepep]

Hi guys! Innova owner here.. just want to share my experience with my innova.. Mine is a 2007 J Diesel Variant with 96++k mileage. Late last year na experience ko yun nag cchoke at namamatay yun makina. I went to casa last January, sabi nun service advisor papalitan nila yun Fuel Filter at i-rereset yun ECU (Toyota Q.Ave), Tinanong ko yun Service advisor kung bakit nagkakaganun and kung pwede makausap yun mekaniko para ma explain sakin kung ano talaga nangyari, sabi lang niya sakin e hindi pwede kausapin yun mekaniko, so ok lang.. umuwi na lang ako.. napansin ko hindi na resolve yun problema ng sasakyan ko.. inobserbahan ko lang muna yun sasakyan, after 1 week nawala yun pag cchoke at pagkamatay nun makina.. Anyway, Sa Shell pala ko nagkakarga, nagka problema lang yun sasakyan mula nung nakapag karga kami sa Petron Fairview.

Last Last week naman pumunta ako Tagaytay. Nagpa full Tank ako sa Shell Julia Vargas, Umulan when im on my way to Makati to pick up my friend, then suddenly while waiting dun sa sinundo ko, nag cchoke yung makina ko(First time ulit after January). Nag iikot ikot muna ko sa Makati para ma check kung mauulit.. siguro mga 5 times naulit then twice namatay yun makina.. Hinayaan ko na muna, tpos umalis na kami.. Nag Stop over kami sa Paseo Sta Rosa, we were there for about 45 minutes kaya pinatay ko muna yun makina.. Pag labas nmin sa parking namatay yun makina pag shift ko sa 3rd gear( buti walang kasunod at kasalubong kasi na stock na pati yun manibela). So I went last week sa Toyota Commonwealth(since wala na ako tiwala sa Q.Ave), sabi nun kilala kong mechanic, kelangan na daw palitan yun SCV(Suction Control Valve), lumang model na daw kasi yun innova ko and maiksi yun parang tubo dun sa SCV, kaylangan daw palitan ng bagong SCV kit.. naka schedule na ko tom for replacing the SCV kit, I’ll update you guys kung ano magiging result.. I hope maging ok na sasakyan ko.. P.S. if im not mistaken, binaha yun Shell Julia Vargas, so siguro pumili na lang tayo ng Station na hindi nabaha.


Para pala sa mga umiilaw yung Engine Light Indicator kapag umaandar yun sasakyan, EGR lang papalitan dun.. kasama yun sa Warranty kaya wala kayo babayaran. Sa Toyota Commonwealth ako nagpa gawa. i-nexplain sakin nun mekaniko na madumi lang yun sensor kaya umiilaw. After nya Mapalitan, success!! di na umiilaw yun engine light indicator, hindi na nkaka ilang mag drive. Nakaka worry kasi bka serious problem sa engine.

[pepep]

hi! toyota owners i am new to tsikot.. I own a 08InnovaD4d my odo is 35+++... I just want to ask how much yung speed ng innova nyo on 2000rpm? In original tire size 205/65R15...because mine now is only 75kph at 2000rpm... and i notice my engine consume more fuel..and not very responsive in overtaking.I compare it when its odo 5+++. thanks for sharing.

A/T ba innova mo? sakin nasa 90kph pag 2k rpm.. 100-110kph ko is about 2.5-2.7k rpm naman. Manual Innova ko

[timo07]

Hi guys! Innova owner here.. just want to share my experience with my innova.. Mine is a 2007 J Diesel Variant with 96++k mileage. Late last year na experience ko yun nag cchoke at namamatay yun makina. I went to casa last January, sabi nun service advisor papalitan nila yun Fuel Filter at i-rereset yun ECU (Toyota Q.Ave), Tinanong ko yun Service advisor kung bakit nagkakaganun and kung pwede makausap yun mekaniko para ma explain sakin kung ano talaga nangyari, sabi lang niya sakin e hindi pwede kausapin yun mekaniko, so ok lang.. umuwi na lang ako.. napansin ko hindi na resolve yun problema ng sasakyan ko.. inobserbahan ko lang muna yun sasakyan, after 1 week nawala yun pag cchoke at pagkamatay nun makina.. Anyway, Sa Shell pala ko nagkakarga, nagka problema lang yun sasakyan mula nung nakapag karga kami sa Petron Fairview.

Last Last week naman pumunta ako Tagaytay. Nagpa full Tank ako sa Shell Julia Vargas, Umulan when im on my way to Makati to pick up my friend, then suddenly while waiting dun sa sinundo ko, nag cchoke yung makina ko(First time ulit after January). Nag iikot ikot muna ko sa Makati para ma check kung mauulit.. siguro mga 5 times naulit then twice namatay yun makina.. Hinayaan ko na muna, tpos umalis na kami.. Nag Stop over kami sa Paseo Sta Rosa, we were there for about 45 minutes kaya pinatay ko muna yun makina.. Pag labas nmin sa parking namatay yun makina pag shift ko sa 3rd gear( buti walang kasunod at kasalubong kasi na stock na pati yun manibela). So I went last week sa Toyota Commonwealth(since wala na ako tiwala sa Q.Ave), sabi nun kilala kong mechanic, kelangan na daw palitan yun SCV(Suction Control Valve), lumang model na daw kasi yun innova ko and maiksi yun parang tubo dun sa SCV, kaylangan daw palitan ng bagong SCV kit.. naka schedule na ko tom for replacing the SCV kit, I’ll update you guys kung ano magiging result.. I hope maging ok na sasakyan ko.. P.S. if im not mistaken, binaha yun Shell Julia Vargas, so siguro pumili na lang tayo ng Station na hindi nabaha.


Para pala sa mga umiilaw yung Engine Light Indicator kapag umaandar yun sasakyan, EGR lang papalitan dun.. kasama yun sa Warranty kaya wala kayo babayaran. Sa Toyota Commonwealth ako nagpa gawa. i-nexplain sakin nun mekaniko na madumi lang yun sensor kaya umiilaw. After nya Mapalitan, success!! di na umiilaw yun engine light indicator, hindi na nkaka ilang mag drive. Nakaka worry kasi bka serious problem sa engine.

Suction Control Valve is part of the Fuel Injection Pump according to Dieseldude if I recall it correctly. So ito talaga ang culprit. Magkano ang quote sa iyo for that SCV Kit? Might be cheaper than replacing the whole pump assembly even if reconditioned/remanufactured.

[pepep]

Suction Control Valve is part of the Fuel Injection Pump according to Dieseldude if I recall it correctly. So ito talaga ang culprit. Magkano ang quote sa iyo for that SCV Kit? Might be cheaper than replacing the whole pump assembly even if reconditioned/remanufactured.

I can't remember the exact price, Pero it's 5k++. Mas mura talaga pag SCV kit lang ang papalitan, around 40k yun pump assembly and we're not sure if yung buong assembly talaga ang may problema.

[jalibee]

[quote=ajOT;1493453]the problem on these, is that, some dealers are on a complete denial of the said d4d issue.....
i've even talked to some dealers (toyota-alabang); according to them they have not heard of any kind and/or have not encountered any repairs on that said issue - for me, what such a big liar![/quot

dude walang alam mga tao diyan sa toyota alabang. kadalasan mga ojt lang ang mga mekaniko ng titipid kasi may ari niyan na si Mr. Lee. Parang bang pinagpaparaktisan ang sasakyan mo ng mga ojt. kaya alam ko kasi dati diyan ako ng work.

[jalibee]

[quote=jalibee;1498780]

the problem on these, is that, some dealers are on a complete denial of the said d4d issue.....
i've even talked to some dealers (toyota-alabang); according to them they have not heard of any kind and/or have not encountered any repairs on that said issue - for me, what such a big liar!

dude walang alam mga tao diyan sa toyota alabang. kadalasan mga ojt lang ang mga mekaniko ng titipid kasi may ari niyan na si Mr. Lee. Parang bang pinagpaparaktisan ang sasakyan mo ng mga ojt. kaya alam ko kasi dati diyan ako ng work.

[ajOT]

[quote=jalibee;1498782]

dude walang alam mga tao diyan sa toyota alabang. kadalasan mga ojt lang ang mga mekaniko ng titipid kasi may ari niyan na si Mr. Lee. Parang bang pinagpaparaktisan ang sasakyan mo ng mga ojt. kaya alam ko kasi dati diyan ako ng work.

alright then.
am sorry, but I really have no question if an OJT is the one that handles the car, as long as the immediate supervisor is there to watch nor supervise; but they should let them know how to say things on a factual way.
kapag nagkamali naman sila, it will be at the owners discretion now if something is not performing right on his car; whether you sue him or you tell him to pay for damages+refund+hassle+etc.

[bumblebok]

sir pepep i have 08innova E MT....I only get 75to80kph at 2000rpm.. I made a complain in Toyota and they made a diagnosis on my engine. but they assure me that nothing is wrong on my engine. its still under warranty.. Im worried if the warranty end and the car get lots of problem.. My car is service by toyota every 7thou km. fully synthetic oil pa ang gamit ko eversince..Lahat is done by Toyota and its not cheap. Parang hindi worth ang ginagastos ko. I also have a nissan frontier 4wd which is my everyday car i own it for 11 yrs the odo is 187,+++ and I got no problem with it. cheap to maintain, very strong AC compare to my innova.. do you think ang innova is worth keeping?

[bumblebok]

A/T ba innova mo? sakin nasa 90kph pag 2k rpm.. 100-110kph ko is about 2.5-2.7k rpm naman. Manual Innova ko

sir pepep i have 08innova E MT....I only get 75to80kph at 2000rpm.. I made a complain in Toyota and they made a diagnosis on my engine. but they assure me that nothing is wrong on my engine. its still under warranty.. Im worried if the warranty end and the car get lots of problem.. My car is service by toyota every 7thou km. fully synthetic oil pa ang gamit ko eversince..Lahat is done by Toyota and its not cheap. Parang hindi worth ang ginagastos ko. I also have a nissan frontier 4wd which is my everyday car i own it for 11 yrs the odo is 187,+++ and I got no problem with it. cheap to maintain, very strong AC compare to my innova.. do you think ang innova is worth keeping?

[timo07]

sir pepep i have 08innova E MT....I only get 75to80kph at 2000rpm.. I made a complain in Toyota and they made a diagnosis on my engine. but they assure me that nothing is wrong on my engine. its still under warranty.. Im worried if the warranty end and the car get lots of problem.. My car is service by toyota every 7thou km. fully synthetic oil pa ang gamit ko eversince..Lahat is done by Toyota and its not cheap. Parang hindi worth ang ginagastos ko. I also have a nissan frontier 4wd which is my everyday car i own it for 11 yrs the odo is 187,+++ and I got no problem with it. cheap to maintain, very strong AC compare to my innova.. do you think ang innova is worth keeping?

I also get the same speed at around the same engine RPM. It is not an issue. I'm also an M/T D4D owner. As A/T is only 4 speed, gear ratio is different from M/T.

On your question if the innova is worth keeping, the answer will be entirely up to you. The basis will be your confidence level on the vehicle versus your financial capability to replace with another vehicle, if you would like a brand new one. Trading with a used Gas variant may not require you to pay extra but, again, it depends on your needs and circumstances.

[sm2by]

I just saw a 09 Fortuner (LTO plates N-series) probably a 2.5 dsl variant on SLEX northbound, belching thick black smoke... well it means toyota didn't get all the gremlins out of their D4D engines....

[bumblebok]

I just saw a 09 Fortuner (LTO plates N-series) probably a 2.5 dsl variant on SLEX northbound, belching thick black smoke... well it means toyota didn't get all the gremlins out of their D4D engines....

hindi pa rin solve ang prob ng D4d 2KD-FTD engine. I have a friend who owns the first batch of 2010 fortuner 2.5 MT .belching a black smoke if revving it in 2500rpm.. odo is 8k and toyota claims a defect catalytic converter.

[bumblebok]

I also get the same speed at around the same engine RPM. It is not an issue. I'm also an M/T D4D owner. As A/T is only 4 speed, gear ratio is different from M/T.

On your question if the innova is worth keeping, the answer will be entirely up to you. The basis will be your confidence level on the vehicle versus your financial capability to replace with another vehicle, if you would like a brand new one. Trading with a used Gas variant may not require you to pay extra but, again, it depends on your needs and circumstances.

ok thanks for sharing... no question when it comes to financial capability,because i have 3 vehicles. But i find my toyota innova is expensive in the maintenance compare to my other vehicle and juz worried what i spend in the innova will not be worth it.. anyway how old is your innova? mine is 26months. did you check the chassis? I find early sign of rust on the chassis, very dissapointed with toyota. i did not have this early case on my nissan.

[guy^]

ok thanks for sharing... no question when it comes to financial capability,because i have 3 vehicles. But i find my toyota innova is expensive in the maintenance compare to my other vehicle and juz worried what i spend in the innova will not be worth it.. anyway how old is your innova? mine is 26months. did you check the chassis? I find early sign of rust on the chassis, very dissapointed with toyota. i did not have this early case on my nissan.

i thinks we have 36months warranty regarding this.. pwede mo reklamo sa toyota yan.. dapat hindi mag rust yan... kase nagpapa rust proof naman sila.. sorry ot