List of Toyota D4D Probems (Choking, Hard Starting, etc.)

[Dieseldude]

Hello Dieseldude!

I am a new member here. I am an a car afficionado myself. I read extensively about the D4D choking problem in this forum.

Just one curious question: all these years that this choking problem had been happening, was there any point in time that TMPC issued a formal re-call to the affected D4D units consumer public or even a silent re-call at all that you are aware of?

Thanks!

None that I know of.

[ghlennmc]

From experience, the problem seems to exist on all models. The Innova just has a higher population compared to the the others.

And just imagine, and compare, how many pinoy owns an innova and how many are actually aware of its problems, shows that buyers are buying this vehicle because it is toyota.
Buyers trust the name, but what is toyota doing, continuing to hide the facts and not do something to address and once and for all, solve the D-4D problems.

[timo07]

None that I know of.

Definitely None. I'm a D4D owner. I did not receive any phone call from any Toyota representative at any time. Just doing a check with owners if they are encountering any type of issue with their vehicles could have been a bit comforting but hell, not one call. I remember receiving a letter from them reminding me to renew my Comp. Insurance!!!

I was in a dealership last week and looked inside the engine bay of a D4D Innova. There I saw the different Fuel Pump installed as compared to my unit. I was waiting for a toyota rep to approach me and ask what am I looking at.

Well, they might be relying on owner's proactiveness so why would they bother, right?

And just imagine, and compare, how many pinoy owns an innova and how many are actually aware of its problems, shows that buyers are buying this vehicle because it is toyota.
Buyers trust the name, but what is toyota doing, continuing to hide the facts and not do something to address and once and for all, solve the D-4D problems.

Shame on Toyota for not caring even a bit for the trust the consumers are giving them....

[mikomac]

i also got problems on our toyota innova d4d few years ago.

we were on a trip then suddenly namatay ung engine. then never started. we backed on the shoulder part of the highway to check problem. as we checked the hood seems no problem. then we waited for a few minutes. then it once again the engine started again, few hours then the engine stalled again, we thought the aircon was the problem everytime we turn on the aircon the rpm ranges to 0.500 rpm then stalled.

few daysafter that happened. we bring our innova to the casa to check what seems the problem. they said that it was they restarted the computer box them tadaa,, it seems better. then we took in home. after that we took the innova to a short ride and to think of it, it stalled again. then we brought it to the casa and said that they must replace the (part that i forgot what it was called) since it was still on warranty, it comes for free pa. then after that we sold the car.

i think the innova back in the years seems to have the company problem that they still dont claim abt the d4d's and CRDi.

i hope they can fix the problem coz we are a toyota users

[agentrambo007]

D4D owners (and CRDI owners alike!), finally may answer na (raw) sa dirty fuel naten dito. Petron Turbo Diesel. Any consumer feedback regarding this fuel?

Here's the article: http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/273267...rvice-stations

Hope this helps

[andycapp]

Just had my Innova D4D fixed (the second time in two years) due to engine stalling. This time they replaced the suction control valve. Was hoping they would change the complete new pump assembly.

Have a few months left on my three-year warranty and I hope I don't get "engine stalling" problems anymore. My unit is an automatic version so its not easy to restart the engine, especially when in the middle of the road crossing an intersection. I have to do to a complete stop to restart, backing up traffic.

[onmicha]

Just had my Innova D4D fixed (the second time in two years) due to engine stalling. This time they replaced the suction control valve. Was hoping they would change the complete new pump assembly.

Have a few months left on my three-year warranty and I hope I don't get "engine stalling" problems anymore. My unit is an automatic version so its not easy to restart the engine, especially when in the middle of the road crossing an intersection. I have to do to a complete stop to restart, backing up traffic.

Dapat kapag napalitan na ng bagong SCV, hindi na masyado mag engine stalling ang unit. And kung medyo mataas na ang mileage, dapat hindi lang SCV ang papalitan, dapat yung buong pump assembly na. Well... Hopefully everything works out for you.

[Dieseldude]

Dapat kapag napalitan na ng bagong SCV, hindi na masyado mag engine stalling ang unit. And kung medyo mataas na ang mileage, dapat hindi lang SCV ang papalitan, dapat yung buong pump assembly na. Well... Hopefully everything works out for you.

Omicha is right. High mileage pumps should be replaced outright, not only the SCV. Many internal parts do wear inside the high pressure pump.

The new SCV was introduced by Toyota to address the engine stalling problem. Only time will tell if this is a true fix.

The new SCV is tantamount to Toyota's admittance of a design defect. So why do they keep on pointing their fingers at poor fuel quality? And why doesn't this problem occur with Hyundai CRDIs?

And shouldn't they do a recall if there was a design problem?

[timo07]

And shouldn't they do a recall if there was a design problem?

This is a big ? It's sad that they are not compelled by Philippine Laws to act on this obvious product fault/defect. I don't know if Toyota Officials are reading this thread but I hope they are and challenge them to provide an official pronouncement or position on the matter. I've been drafting a letter in my mind to raise this issue to Toyota which I hope I can send before my warranty lapses on November.
Our product, a well know US brand, is backed by the principle of US' Lemon Law. Every now and then, we will execute what we term as Product Improvement Programs for units under and beyond the prescribed warranty period.

[Terrence]

Just had my Innova D4D fixed (the second time in two years) due to engine stalling. This time they replaced the suction control valve. Was hoping they would change the complete new pump assembly.

Have a few months left on my three-year warranty and I hope I don't get "engine stalling" problems anymore. My unit is an automatic version so its not easy to restart the engine, especially when in the middle of the road crossing an intersection. I have to do to a complete stop to restart, backing up traffic.

Good day Bro,
Ask ko lang what are the symptoms na observed mo sa unit mo, did you experience poor or rough idling sa engine or immediately engine stalling before they replaced your SCV. Mine kasi is as per toyota technician suggestion papalitan din daw SCV ng unit ko because after they road test it medyo poor idling at low power daw and this could lead later on on engine stalling kaya nagorder na sila ng SCV sa planta, kaya i'm waiting na lang for the supply to arrive. kamustahin ko din after they replaced your SCV ok na ba unit mo, sana nga this solved the problem before warranty ends. thanks

[rover2027]

I have a 2005 Innova A/T. Almost 5 years na ito sa akin. A few days ago bigla na lang namatay ang makina habang inaatras sa garahe. Its the first time na nag stall ang makina. I called up Toyota Bicutan and they send a mechanic sa house to check the car. A diagnostic test was done but nothing was found. He reset something and up to now hindi na bumalik ang stalling. Ang problema ko ay even before this happened, humihina na ang hatak o power ng innova ko to a point na hirap siyang umakyat kahit sa mga parking lot na inclined. Pag press mo sa accelerator delayed ang bigay ng power. kailangan mo pang i release muna accelerator and press uli para may power and at the same time napansin ko na may oil leak sa turbo. Ano po kaya ang problema ng sasakyan ko. Sorry for the long post. Thanks

sir maybe your clutch is slipping,try the clutch tests put gear in fifth and observe if engine dies ok pa clutch mo and if not slipping na clutch mo.ung oil leak if its coming from the hose it maybe blowby oil papunta ng turbo charger to exhaust it outside.try cleaning ang checks hose connections.if it persist a repair or replacement is needed.

[andycapp]

Good day Bro,
Ask ko lang what are the symptoms na observed mo sa unit mo, did you experience poor or rough idling sa engine or immediately engine stalling before they replaced your SCV. Mine kasi is as per toyota technician suggestion papalitan din daw SCV ng unit ko because after they road test it medyo poor idling at low power daw and this could lead later on on engine stalling kaya nagorder na sila ng SCV sa planta, kaya i'm waiting na lang for the supply to arrive. kamustahin ko din after they replaced your SCV ok na ba unit mo, sana nga this solved the problem before warranty ends. thanks

The stalling would occur only during stop and go traffic. It would start with rough idling, then after a few minutes the engine would stall. After restarting, the engine would go back to normal.

Since Toyota replaced my SCV two weeks ago, I haven't experienced the problem anymore (cross my fingers).

By the way, there are two model numbers for the SCV, 04226-0L020 and 04226-0L010. The latter one, which was the one used in my unit, is an inch shorter. There's an interesting discussion on this at the Fortuner club forum.

Here's the link: http://pinoyfortuner.14.forumer.com/...pic.php?t=4729

[Jie11]

magandang gabi po! i've been following this thread and did observe that sir dieseldude was been a great help to most.

sir pahelp din po. mausok po yung fortuner V ko pagkapaandar ku sa umaga, then maalog yung makina for a few seconds then maging ok na po cya. I had may change oil with petron trekker the other day but its still the same, no improvement. nagkaganito lang po mula nung nagkrudo aku sa province.
I suspect the diesel which i used in the province at a petron station where they directed me on the line for the jeepneys., naubos po kasi yung no discount lane nung gasolinahan. nagfull tank ako at d pa po nauubos.

anu po kaya maganda gawin ku, Thanks a lot

[Terrence]

The stalling would occur only during stop and go traffic. It would start with rough idling, then after a few minutes the engine would stall. After restarting, the engine would go back to normal.

Since Toyota replaced my SCV two weeks ago, I haven't experienced the problem anymore (cross my fingers).

By the way, there are two model numbers for the SCV, 04226-0L020 and 04226-0L010. The latter one, which was the one used in my unit, is an inch shorter. There's an interesting discussion on this at the Fortuner club forum.

Here's the link: http://pinoyfortuner.14.forumer.com/...pic.php?t=4729

So bro, what they installed in your unit is the SCV, 04226-0L020 which is the new one, ask ko lang what year model ang innova mo? mine i bought it nov 2007. Ngayon while waiting for the call of toyota for my SCV, naobserved ko lang in my unit na okey naman ang idling at takbo ng unit ko, i do remember sabi ng SA to me na nireprogram din nila ECU ko, do you think reprograming lang ang kailangan sa unit ko, pero as he said my findings din daw sila sa SCV na for replacement din before stalling occurs to me kaya i followed na din their advise.

[ajOT]

sir maybe your clutch is slipping,try the clutch tests put gear in fifth and observe if engine dies ok pa clutch mo and if not slipping na clutch mo.ung oil leak if its coming from the hose it maybe blowby oil papunta ng turbo charger to exhaust it outside.try cleaning ang checks hose connections.if it persist a repair or replacement is needed.

may I ask on what do you mean by putting on the 5th gear transmission? from start shift to 5th gear without goin to 1st gear and so on?
if the clutch is somewhat slipping, what is the remedy?
thanks.....

[andycapp]

So bro, what they installed in your unit is the SCV, 04226-0L020 which is the new one, ask ko lang what year model ang innova mo? mine i bought it nov 2007. Ngayon while waiting for the call of toyota for my SCV, naobserved ko lang in my unit na okey naman ang idling at takbo ng unit ko, i do remember sabi ng SA to me na nireprogram din nila ECU ko, do you think reprograming lang ang kailangan sa unit ko, pero as he said my findings din daw sila sa SCV na for replacement din before stalling occurs to me kaya i followed na din their advise.

Bought my unit November 2007 din, so I have a few months left before my warranty expires.

Hope your problem disappears after the ECU reprogramming and replacement of SCV. Worst scenario is to change the pump assembly which costs north of P70,000.

[baxie214]

hello po sa lahat. a new member po. HELP naman po pls.
we are planning to buy a second hand Innova D4-D 2008 "J" with 30K mileage. worth it pa po ba to buy, since all the threads I read are all choking, stalling problems? Kindly helps us to decide because huge bucks will be spent. Plus, good investment pa po ba ito to keep? we will be using the car for family use. thanks po...
More power po sa lahat ng Innova owners and users!!!

[number001]

hello po sa lahat. a new member po. HELP naman po pls.
we are planning to buy a second hand Innova D4-D 2008 "J" with 30K mileage. worth it pa po ba to buy, since all the threads I read are all choking, stalling problems? Kindly helps us to decide because huge bucks will be spent. Plus, good investment pa po ba ito to keep? we will be using the car for family use. thanks po...
More power po sa lahat ng Innova owners and users!!!

You have to assess it thoroughly. Is it casa maintained? Do they have records/receipts to show for it?

As for the problems, you can tell detect this easily with a cold engine. It would have a hard time starting, and needing lots of gas pedal throttling in the process. Choking is another thing bec. it usually happens anytime the vehicle is being used on the road. As for the black smoke, try driving normally (no hard revving) and see if any signs of smoke (gray or black) comes out (there should be none) through the exhaust tip.

[yapoy86]

hello po sa lahat. a new member po. HELP naman po pls.
we are planning to buy a second hand Innova D4-D 2008 "J" with 30K mileage. worth it pa po ba to buy, since all the threads I read are all choking, stalling problems? Kindly helps us to decide because huge bucks will be spent. Plus, good investment pa po ba ito to keep? we will be using the car for family use. thanks po...
More power po sa lahat ng Innova owners and users!!!

nabasa mo na lahat siguro ang dapat mong malaman.. and after reading.. make a choice.. its your money anyway...

for me mag adventure or crosswind ka na lang all power pa compared sa bare j model with a not so trusty d4d engine

[SiRbossR]

nabasa mo na lahat siguro ang dapat mong malaman.. and after reading.. make a choice.. its your money anyway...

for me mag adventure or crosswind ka na lang all power pa compared sa bare j model with a not so trusty d4d engine

That's right. but i prefer the Adcenture rather than the crosswind. or just by adding a little bit, you can get a SUV which is a 2nd FORD EVEREST .

hope this helps.