Subaru Forester

[foresterx]

just got into my mind. raeding the threads, forester owners are so fanatic, they seem to be from subaru.hehe. peace. perhaps ill be one proud owner too

hehehe, ganon lang talaga mga subaru owners bro. here in the states yon ang commercial nila, once you own a subaru every subaru owners who's a car enthusiast will be your friend on the road.
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[strutot]

just got into my mind. raeding the threads, forester owners are so fanatic, they seem to be from subaru.hehe. peace. perhaps ill be one proud owner too

hehe gotta love your own 'ride'
btw if you're fuel price conscious or FC conscious the FXT is not your car

[lsdgenie]

just got into my mind. raeding the threads, forester owners are so fanatic, they seem to be from subaru.hehe. peace. perhaps ill be one proud owner too

Not as fanatic as the fanboys from a certain Korean brand

A little background - was in the same boat as you were roughly two months ago - was looking for new cars for both me and my wife - and we finally settled on the Forester for her (last minute call - we had already placed an order for an Impreza sedan), and a Monty for me...

In the process we checked out practically all cars and SUV's within our price range, and I dredged up old acquaintances working for dealers to try to get some inside info and advice....

But if I were you - if you're really deadset on choosing between the two (Fortuner and Forester), try to hold off several months (Fortuner is primed to get a facelift - its speculation if it'll be major or minor, but the way they're discounting the Forts now makes me think it'll be a major lift, and considering the way they're being walloped by Mitusbishi now....) - and make your decision when the new one comes out. After seeing the two then, you should have no regrets. The Forester also recently got a facelift now btw (but its really minor).

As for me, I'm pretty happy with our Forester (it still hasn't reached its 1600k pms, so i can't say if something'll pop up in the future) - no complaints so far on the handling, ride height, visibility, safety and entertainment features, and power (brought it Subic for some "break-in"...damn ). Off roading I have no experience with (not really my thing).

[foresterx]

hehe gotta love your own 'ride'
btw if you're fuel price conscious or FC conscious the FXT is not your car

not really like that, it's just the forester is really better than the fortuner in every way except for ride height, the extra 2 seats, fc and resale value. here's my top suv's in the 1.4-1.7M price range:
1. Sorento and FXT
2. santa fe
3. tucson
4. forester 2.0
5. asx
6. cx-7
7. x-trail
8. MS
9. cr-v
10. fortuner

the FXT is my number 1 choice because i love performance, and the FXT is the best when it comes to performance in that price range. the sorento is in par for me with the FXT since it's an overall package it has every thing i would want in an suv but it is better than an FXT as an overall car. fortuner is last because it has a weak engine, still use a drum brake and sobra tagtag, there's still a couple more reasons why the fort is last for me but i don't want to offend anyone so i'll just post those 3. even if it has an upcoming facelift, i seriously doubt it would have the technology that the top 5 cars i posted has. don't believe me, just look at the MS it just did what sta.fe did 2 years ago. since MS and fort are not sold world wide, the technology it has can't compete with the cars being sold world wide. no offense meant to ms and fort owners. but if you live in the province where you'll pass by unpaved roads all the time, then i'll gladly choose the fort or ms.

[imperialv]

Tama ba..

the new 2011 forester 2.0 has a new and powerful engine.. nasa 170++ na hP?? Am i correct?


FXT same engine.

Eto yung 2011 forester 2.0. Naka display sa MIAS 2011

[foresterx]

not sure but i think it's still the same engine for the 2.0 also, better ask MI to be sure.

[MICGIL]

from what i read the 2011 2.0 forester has the same engine but subaru engrs had some fine tuning and that added additional 2HP. not much.

my apprehension now is it seems fxt is overly priced especialy when it's just launched. but then after several months m.i. will offer big discounts and freebies, making a total amount that is the 'true price' logically.

[MICGIL]

im hands off when it comes to fxt.its really a great suv.but i can't understand the pricing.
the 2010 fxt is now discounted by atleast 40K plus it comes with several free items.making it almost 100k difference compared to the new facelifted.

[foresterx]

from what i read the 2011 2.0 forester has the same engine but subaru engrs had some fine tuning and that added additional 2HP. not much.

my apprehension now is it seems fxt is overly priced especialy when it's just launched. but then after several months m.i. will offer big discounts and freebies, making a total amount that is the 'true price' logically.

the new engine is using a chain driven double overhead cam instead of the belt driven single overhead cam, which gives extra hp, better low end torque and better fc.

the 300k difference between the 2.0 and the FXT is justifiable since the difference in performance is just to huge, also the price of the subaru isn't that far from world wide prices compared to other asian cars which is almost double compared to other countries.

btw what other cars are you considering besides the fxt and fort?

[lsdgenie]

im hands off when it comes to fxt.its really a great suv.but i can't understand the pricing.
the 2010 fxt is now discounted by atleast 40K plus it comes with several free items.making it almost 100k difference compared to the new facelifted.

Hmmm, but isn't this the case whenever a car gets a refresher? (I mean, the old one always goes on sale?)

[jojoR]

Tama ba..

the new 2011 forester 2.0 has a new and powerful engine.. nasa 170++ na hP?? Am i correct?


FXT same engine.

Eto yung 2011 forester 2.0. Naka display sa MIAS 2011

Subaru has updated the Forester but instead of giving it just a simple facelift, the Japanese carmaker has done something drastic by replacing the engine with an all-new one.

Replacing the old "EJ" series engine, specifically in the 2.0-liter XS variant Forester is the all-new "FB" series--Subaru's first all-new engine in over 20 years. The new engine features an entirely new basic structure while still exhibiting the unique advantages of Subaru's renowned horizontally-opposed boxer engine layout like its light weight, compact size and low center of gravity.

Benefits given by the all-new engine include a 10-percent increase in fuel efficiency and an improvement in the car's driving performance through smooth acceleration in all speed ranges.

taken from TG website: http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/mias-...ets-an-upgrade

[MICGIL]

the new engine is using a chain driven double overhead cam instead of the belt driven single overhead cam, which gives extra hp, better low end torque and better fc.

the 300k difference between the 2.0 and the FXT is justifiable since the difference in performance is just to huge, also the price of the subaru isn't that far from world wide prices compared to other asian cars which is almost double compared to other countries.

btw what other cars are you considering besides the fxt and fort?

besides fxt and fort, 2011 ford explorer, captiva, asx.but narrowed down the list to fxt and fort

[MICGIL]

Hmmm, but isn't this the case whenever a car gets a refresher? (I mean, the old one always goes on sale?)

yeah that is true, but in this case, I asked 2 different sa's.apparently the offer are not the same.which make me think that this mark-ups is on-top of what the cost of the car really is.

[hajabah]

To those wondering, the 2.0 engine is an new generation engine. as in it's all new. oddly though, it just happens to produce around the same numbers for bhp and torque. But according to Subaru anyway, it's all-new.

and MIGCIL, have you tried driving the Captiva? I test drove the diesel and was very underwhelmed by the engine. and the interior was such a huge disappointment for something in that price range. I hope that didn't just offend anyone. I'm just stating an honest and humble opinion. :D

[foresterx]

i actually like the captiva but because it's a chevy i stayed away from it. chevy just gives such a bad service, i went there to ask for a quote and took them 2 weeks to give me a quote. parang gusto nila ako pa ang mag habol sa kanila. the asx naman if you came from a fort it might feel real small but the features and performance of that car is actually pretty good.

[Starex_Gold]

I saw the MMC Forester X, hindi na siya mukang bare, I like the new grille

Pero bakit yung mags ganun parin, akala ko pareho na nung nasa highlights brochure na pinamimigay sa entrance.

[MICGIL]

To those wondering, the 2.0 engine is an new generation engine. as in it's all new. oddly though, it just happens to produce around the same numbers for bhp and torque. But according to Subaru anyway, it's all-new.

and MIGCIL, have you tried driving the Captiva? I test drove the diesel and was very underwhelmed by the engine. and the interior was such a huge disappointment for something in that price range. I hope that didn't just offend anyone. I'm just stating an honest and humble opinion. :D

didn't drive test the captiva anymore. just looked at the specs, it seems underpowered with its bigger body now. and the ac will certainly not reach the cramped 3rd row

[MICGIL]

Not as fanatic as the fanboys from a certain Korean brand

A little background - was in the same boat as you were roughly two months ago - was looking for new cars for both me and my wife - and we finally settled on the Forester for her (last minute call - we had already placed an order for an Impreza sedan), and a Monty for me...

In the process we checked out practically all cars and SUV's within our price range, and I dredged up old acquaintances working for dealers to try to get some inside info and advice....

But if I were you - if you're really deadset on choosing between the two (Fortuner and Forester), try to hold off several months (Fortuner is primed to get a facelift - its speculation if it'll be major or minor, but the way they're discounting the Forts now makes me think it'll be a major lift, and considering the way they're being walloped by Mitusbishi now....) - and make your decision when the new one comes out. After seeing the two then, you should have no regrets. The Forester also recently got a facelift now btw (but its really minor).

As for me, I'm pretty happy with our Forester (it still hasn't reached its 1600k pms, so i can't say if something'll pop up in the future) - no complaints so far on the handling, ride height, visibility, safety and entertainment features, and power (brought it Subic for some "break-in"...damn ). Off roading I have no experience with (not really my thing).

thanks for the advice. the 2011/2012 fortuner will only have a facelifted front and rear bumper, a new grille and bigger wheel at 18".but the same reliable engine.problem is its not available til september

[eggman]

According sa price list na pinadala saakin ng taga Subaru eh may 2 Liter XS variant ang 2011 Forester with much newer rims.Nasa 1.388M Pesos sya..

[mykel_05]

I asked the SA at MIAS, kung same FC ang 2.0, he told me, same pa rin daw, kala ko naman mas titipid na siya. aside from the external changes, nawala na rin yung tweeter and sub woofer ng stereo sa 2.0, which I think is kind of a rip-off, ayun nga yung isa sa masaya sa forester pag dinadrive mo e, as in nararamdaman mo na yung bass ng music from your seat. he also told me that there was a 10k difference from the old stocks na meron pa rin naman daw. so siguro preference ng bibili ngayon ng 2.0 ay kung pipiliin niya yung external enhancements plus the different engine with the same FC vs the old one.