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    I was already told that it's extremely urgent that I replace my car's tires. It's 5 years old and a few months now. I knew since last year that the front tires are super worn out already but it's my fault that I'm a procrastinator. What type/size/brand of tires should I be getting? I'm looking for bang-for-the-buck ones (not super expensive).

    For the meantime, if I have the current rear tires (thicker) and front tires (thinner) switched, would that at least give me safer driving?

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    Since AWD, I highly suggest replacing all 4 tires. You can look at Otani tires. I just replaced last December all 4 tires of my XT with Otani KC2000. Mga 5k+ each tire, bang for the buck!

    Better to have the worn out tires on the back and the still good ones on the back. Kahit AWD yung mga Subies, there is still more front traction thus the front set gets worn out more than the rear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Since AWD, I highly suggest replacing all 4 tires. You can look at Otani tires. I just replaced last December all 4 tires of my XT with Otani KC2000. Mga 5k+ each tire, bang for the buck!

    Better to have the worn out tires on the back and the still good ones on the back. Kahit AWD yung mga Subies, there is still more front traction thus the front set gets worn out more than the rear.


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    Is Otani considered to be a premium brand of tires? Where'd you get your KC2000's? Would you rather replace or upgrade to a better performing tire set?

    You mean worn out tires on the back and the still good ones on the front, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    errr,
    do you really need to replace your current tyres urgently?
    the innernet is full of guidelines.

    if i were me,
    i'd consult the owner's manual for the factory spec tyres.
    manufacturer's specs is usually the safe choice.

    and no,
    i'm not a fan of thin-here-thick-there tyre combos.
    but that's just me.
    What do you mean? My plan is to "replace" them, not "upgrade", so manufacture-spec'd tires will do. Everybody is telling me that they need to be replaced already, including some parking attendants, lol. The front tires do look to be super worn out which makes driving dangerous in general.

    Yes, the thin-here-thick-there combo is just temporary until I'm able to secure a new set of tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post
    Is Otani considered to be a premium brand of tires? Where'd you get your KC2000's? Would you rather replace or upgrade to a better performing tire set?

    You mean worn out tires on the back and the still good ones on the front, right?



    What do you mean? My plan is to "replace" them, not "upgrade", so manufacture-spec'd tires will do. Everybody is telling me that they need to be replaced already, including some parking attendants, lol. The front tires do look to be super worn out which makes driving dangerous in general.

    Yes, the thin-here-thick-there combo is just temporary until I'm able to secure a new set of tires.
    The KC2000 is the UHP tire option for Otani. It is made from Thailand. They are better than the China brands for around the same price. I used two sets of Bridgestone Duelers already and the Otani’s are just as good. Average ko is around 35k km per set of tires and that’s with how I drive. I also use Otani (EK1000) on my ASX.

    Yep, the still good ones on the front.

    Mayrun ata Otani dealer sa Banawe. I got my Otani tires from a fellow Tsikoteer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    You can look at Otani tires. I just replaced last December all 4 tires of my XT with Otani KC2000. Mga 5k+ each tire
    For a 225/?? `17 or `18 tire, that’s a reasonable price for a midrange manufacturer.

    I would never* buy a budget tire, even though they can sometimes be half the price of a midrange brand. All tires may look identical when brand new, but I’ve witnessed how quickly the cheaper brands wear out on vehicles that have them.


    *On second thought, I would, but only for a brand new spare tire that we all hope to never have to need anyway (I don’t include the spare in rotation). Its still better than repurposing one of the old tires. It may look useable, but since they’re old, they could be succumbing to dry rot na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    For a 225/?? `17 or `18 tire, that’s a reasonable price for a midrange manufacturer.

    I would never* buy a budget tire, even though they can sometimes be half the price of a midrange brand. All tires may look identical when brand new, but I’ve witnessed how quickly the cheaper brands wear out on vehicles that have them.


    *On second thought, I would, but only for a brand new spare tire that we all hope to never have to need anyway (I don’t include the spare in rotation). Its still better than repurposing one of the old tires. It may look useable, but since they’re old, they could be succumbing to dry rot na.
    I bought those tires on recommendation from a fellow Tsikoteer who is very knowledgeable about tires. He knows how I drive so I follow his recommendations.

    In as much as I want to buy premium brands like Bridgestone or Michelin but we have other priorities. We look for the best product within our budget/ Good value talaga yung Otani compared to the likes of Sailun or Maxxis. Other good value brands are Achilles, Accelera, and GT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    In as much as I want to buy premium brands like Bridgestone or Michelin but we have other priorities. We look for the best product within our budget/ Good value talaga yung Otani compared to the likes of Sailun or Maxxis. Other good value brands are Achilles, Accelera, and GT.
    Oo naman.

    On second thought, come to think of it, a brand new budget tire (Sailun, Maxxis, etc.) will be (hypothetically) safer pa rin than even a high end brand na pudpod na, or overaged. Nakakahinayang pa naman lalo in the latter case (overaged) and makapal pa.

    By the way, GT and Achilles are ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post
    What is the best course of action in my case? Buy 4 new tires and then what? Do I change my spare tire with the usable old rear tires that I have and then dispose the worn out old front tires?
    Agree ako with Egan, buy 4 new na if kaya naman (and not just being stingy).

    Wala rin resale value ang old tires, scrap value lang (ginagawang paso, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    For a 225/?? `17 or `18 tire, that’s a reasonable price for a midrange manufacturer.

    I would never* buy a budget tire, even though they can sometimes be half the price of a midrange brand. All tires may look identical when brand new, but I’ve witnessed how quickly the cheaper brands wear out on vehicles that have them.


    *On second thought, I would, but only for a brand new spare tire that we all hope to never have to need anyway (I don’t include the spare in rotation). Its still better than repurposing one of the old tires. It may look useable, but since they’re old, they could be succumbing to dry rot na.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    For a 225/?? `17 or `18 tire, that’s a reasonable price for a midrange manufacturer.

    I would never* buy a budget tire, even though they can sometimes be half the price of a midrange brand. All tires may look identical when brand new, but I’ve witnessed how quickly the cheaper brands wear out on vehicles that have them.


    *On second thought, I would, but only for a brand new spare tire that we all hope to never have to need anyway (I don’t include the spare in rotation). Its still better than repurposing one of the old tires. It may look useable, but since they’re old, they could be succumbing to dry rot na.

    Unless one is really hard up, its still best to change all 4 at the same time (lalo na if may promo).
    What is the best course of action in my case? Buy 4 new tires and then what? Do I change my spare tire with the usable old rear tires that I have and then dispose the worn out old front tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post
    What is the best course of action in my case? Buy 4 new tires and then what? Do I change my spare tire with the usable old rear tires that I have and then dispose the worn out old front tires?
    Go buy new tires since you are due for replacement anyway. By the way, Subaru uses a semi-donut for the spare and you can only use it for when experiencing a flat on the road (limited to 80kmh).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Go buy new tires since you are due for replacement anyway. By the way, Subaru uses a semi-donut for the spare and you can only use it for when experiencing a flat on the road (limited to 80kmh).


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    Ok, so stay put lang si spare tire? And dispose ko na yung 4 old tires?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Oo naman.

    On second thought, come to think of it, a brand new budget tire (Sailun, Maxxis, etc.) will be (hypothetically) safer pa rin than even a high end brand na pudpod na, or overaged. Nakakahinayang pa naman lalo in the latter case (overaged) and makapal pa.

    By the way, GT and Achilles are ok.



    Agree ako with Egan, buy 4 new na if kaya naman (and not just being stingy).

    Wala rin resale value ang old tires, scrap value lang (ginagawang paso, etc.)
    Yeah, kaya naman. I just don't want to splurge kung wala namang benefits for me. Generally, ilang taon ang "overaged" tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post
    I was already told that it's extremely urgent that I replace my car's tires. It's 5 years old and a few months now. I knew since last year that the front tires are super worn out already but it's my fault that I'm a procrastinator. What type/size/brand of tires should I be getting? I'm looking for bang-for-the-buck ones (not super expensive).

    For the meantime, if I have the current rear tires (thicker) and front tires (thinner) switched, would that at least give me safer driving?
    errr,
    do you really need to replace your current tyres urgently?
    the innernet is full of guidelines.

    if i were me,
    i'd consult the owner's manual for the factory spec tyres.
    manufacturer's specs is usually the safe choice.

    and no,
    i'm not a fan of thin-here-thick-there tyre combos.
    but that's just me.
    Last edited by dr. d; February 1st, 2023 at 12:18 PM.

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    Regardless of AWD, the front tires will naturally wear faster because you use them for steering, so even tires on AWD vehicles benefit from regular tire rotation.

    Another thing is, since we mostly drive forward rather than in reverse, the front tires will usually be the first pair to encounter puddles of water on the road and would therefore be more likely hydroplane before the rear tires. That's why it may make sense to put the better tires up front for the meantime until you get new ones.

    Since you're on a budget, just get tires with the same section width and aspect ratios as your current tires so you won't have to buy new mag wheels. Replace your tire valves as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Regardless of AWD, the front tires will naturally wear faster because you use them for steering, so even tires on AWD vehicles benefit from regular tire rotation.

    Another thing is, since we mostly drive forward rather than in reverse, the front tires will usually be the first pair to encounter puddles of water on the road and would therefore be more likely hydroplane before the rear tires. That's why it may make sense to put the better tires up front for the meantime until you get new ones.

    Since you're on a budget, just get tires with the same section width and aspect ratios as your current tires so you won't have to buy new mag wheels. Replace your tire valves as well.
    Unless of course you drive a RWD car with different tire sizes for the front and rear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Regardless of AWD, the front tires will naturally wear faster because you use them for steering, so even tires on AWD vehicles benefit from regular tire rotation.

    Another thing is, since we mostly drive forward rather than in reverse, the front tires will usually be the first pair to encounter puddles of water on the road and would therefore be more likely hydroplane before the rear tires. That's why it may make sense to put the better tires up front for the meantime until you get new ones.

    Since you're on a budget, just get tires with the same section width and aspect ratios as your current tires so you won't have to buy new mag wheels. Replace your tire valves as well.
    Ok, I'll make sure to have the tires switched today. I'll be driving in NLEX later tonight. What is the general interval for when you need to have your tires rotated?

    What are the benefits of upgrading to a better spec'd tire set anyway?

    For tire valves, any specific brands I'm looking for? And how long do tire valves last in general?

    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    The KC2000 is the UHP tire option for Otani. It is made from Thailand. They are better than the China brands for around the same price. I used two sets of Bridgestone Duelers already and the Otani’s are just as good. Average ko is around 35k km per set of tires and that’s with how I drive. I also use Otani (EK1000) on my ASX.

    Yep, the still good ones on the front.

    Mayrun ata Otani dealer sa Banawe. I got my Otani tires from a fellow Tsikoteer.


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    Ok, got it. Is UHP the highest tier of Otani na? I usually drive around Taguig and from Taguig to Ortigas (and back). Plus every two weeks or so, I go home to Pampanga and back. So no aggressive driving of any sort.

    May mga fakes din ba ng Otani? Hirap pa naman sa Banawe kapag wala kang alam.

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    You can look around for shops in Evangelista, it will probably be nearer for you assuming you stay in Taguig

    There are reasonably priced Dunlops, I had those fitted to my sister's Subaru. It came out to 25k for all as far as I remember

    Needing to change all at the same time is an annoying fact of AWD cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    There are reasonably priced Dunlops
    IIRC Dunlops are connected with Goodyear, another quality midrange brand din.

    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    Needing to change all at the same time is an annoying fact of AWD cars
    Unless one is really hard up, its still best to change all 4 at the same time (lalo na if may promo).
    A lot of people waste more money pa nga on silly accessories & so called "upgrades"

    Pero ang gulong, impt. yan. No need to splurge, but don't scrimp either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Another thing is, since we mostly drive forward rather than in reverse, the front tires will usually be the first pair to encounter puddles of water on the road and would therefore be more likely hydroplane before the rear tires. That's why it may make sense to put the better tires up front for the meantime until you get new ones.

    Used to believe this also but then found out that new tires should be prioritize to be installed in the rear ...
    Last edited by Walter; February 1st, 2023 at 02:48 PM.

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    I switch the front and rear sets every time I change oil (which is every 10k km). Since the car is lifted to check for leaks or anything underneath, I just ask the technicians to switch the tires also.


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    Yun din alam ko ba dapat yun mas makapal na gulong ilagay sa harap but apparently I was wrong.

    It should be the other way around newer tires should be installed at the rear assuming two tires lang Ang papalitan.

    But if ako OP. I’ll replace all 4 tires. Same age lang sila lahat so kahit makapal pa eh maybe Meier na dry rot.


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    You can't downgrade to 17" because you will have to change your Rims as well.



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