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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Someone mentioned here na sa PH lang required face shield? I wonder what other countries common ang face shield kasi sa US and Germany hindi daw
    AFAIK, only the Philippines require its citizens to wear face shields in public places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    AFAIK, only the Philippines require its citizens to wear face shields in public places.
    I personally think tama naman another layer of protection lalo na sa mga nag commute saka sa mga pumupunta ng mga palengke.

    Protection na rin para sa mga nakalabas ilong saka yun mga nag gagamit ulit ng disposable mask ng ilan beses.

    Sa mga hinde crowded na lugar for me pwede na eye goggles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    I personally think tama naman another layer of protection lalo na sa mga nag commute saka sa mga pumupunta ng mga palengke.

    Protection na rin para sa mga nakalabas ilong saka yun mga nag gagamit ulit ng disposable mask ng ilan beses.

    Sa mga hinde crowded na lugar for me pwede na eye goggles.


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    If shields do really help, how come countries like Japan, HK and SG did not require their people to wear them? Meron na ulit resurgence of cases sa kanila, and definitely mas magaling naman siguro ang health experts nila.

    For me, may kumita lang dito sa face shields kaya ipina require
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    If shields do really help, how come countries like Japan, HK and SG did not require their people to wear them? Meron na ulit resurgence of cases sa kanila, and definitely mas magaling naman siguro ang health experts nila.

    For me, may kumita lang dito sa face shields kaya ipina require
    Mas magaling dito hinde na umalis ng first wave. [emoji23] eh di hinde na pinoproblema 2nd-3rd-4th waves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Mas magaling dito hinde na umalis ng first wave. [emoji23] eh di hinde na pinoproblema 2nd-3rd-4th waves.


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    Forced herd immunity sa atin, required lahat matamaan ng covid
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    #19546
    tv5's jove francisco said that a single dose will cost approximately Php 20k after storage, transport costs, marketing, etc (not sure if it will be taxed though).

    and then i read that inoculation will also be a strictly bi-annual affair for some vaccines.

    but of course, at the moment, those are all suppositions. at the very least those "op-ed opinions" give us an idea how dancing w/ the wuhan devil will be like in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the black market has been in play for ages now.
    only the product changes...
    heh heh.

    i'd wait a while, for until the first users will have shown whether there are ill-effects or not.
    remember the denggoyvaxia.
    may black market for China's covid vaccine kasi they've been manufacturing it for months already

    as in packaged products na mga yan na parang pwede mo mabili sa tindahan

    Sinovac:


    Sinopharm (CNBG):

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    Kaya hindi nakakapagtaka meron mag leak sa black market

    meron mga middle man who can get you vaccine

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    yes doc hintay lang

    di pa natin alam kung may side effect na ADE (antibody dependent enhancement)

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    ^When there is a problem, there is an opportunity disguised as a solution’

    Iba talaga ibang negosyante dumiskarte.

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    #19550
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ..... how dancing w/ the wuhan devil will be like in the future.
    WUHAN DEVIL. Nice ring to it


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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    The virus can stick to the fur. In effect, they act as carriers. Wipe down with a 1% bleach solution on a towelette.

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    oh no, I hope she didn't catch virus in her fur. I had her sleep in my room because she kept on crying

    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    AFAIK, only the Philippines require its citizens to wear face shields in public places.
    Kinakabahan na naman ako kasi yung face shield ko napiktal and it fell on the floor! Though floor looked clean at hindi naman naaapakan masyado kasi sa gilid na. I sprayed it liberally with alcohol and had to wear it again because they won't let me enter without it naman. Anyway next time it fell on the floor sa escalator na ng parking and the guard saw it naman kaya di ko na sinuot. Baka sa face shield pa ko mapahamak!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Kaya hindi nakakapagtaka meron mag leak sa black market

    meron mga middle man who can get you vaccine

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    yes doc hintay lang

    di pa natin alam kung may side effect na ADE (antibody dependent enhancement)
    My Mom doesn't want the vaccine. Tiis na lang daw siya sa loob ng bahay

    curse the wuhan virus, kawawa mga seniors na nagiingat ng maigi, more than 1 yr hindi makakalabas ng bahay

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Kinakabahan na naman ako kasi yung face shield ko napiktal and it fell on the floor! Though floor looked clean at hindi naman naaapakan masyado kasi sa gilid na. I sprayed it liberally with alcohol and had to wear it again because they won't let me enter without it naman. Anyway next time it fell on the floor sa escalator na ng parking and the guard saw it naman kaya di ko na sinuot. Baka sa face shield pa ko mapahamak!!!
    Yup, the chances of one getting the virus from wearing face shields outweighs the chances of preventing it. Face shields are reusable, and I don’t think people will disinfect it after each use. Tapos kung saan saan pa nilalagay whenever they are not wearing it, and like Cathy, the chances of dropping the face shields to the floor is very high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Yup, the chances of one getting the virus from wearing face shields does not outweigh the chances of preventing it. Face shields are reusable, and I don’t think people will disinfect it after each use. Tapos kung saan saan pa nilalagay whenever they are not wearing it, and like Cathy, the chances of dropping the face shields to the floor is very high.
    May nakita nga ko online na yung acrylic dividers sa restos ginawang sabitan ng face shield. I hope they alcohol it before wearing. Kaya ako I never ever take off my face mask once I wear it pero sa face shield hindi talaga ko bilib kasi I wear glasses naman so protected pa eyes ko hahaha

    Seriously napansin ko kasi ang face shield prone ako i adjust at hawakan lagi kasi nagmi mist e

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    #19554
    India regulators probe alleged AstraZeneca shot reaction, trial continues | ABS-CBN News



    A 40-year-old man said in a complaint seen by Reuters that he had suffered serious "neurological and psychological" symptoms after receiving the vaccine in a trial being run by the British drugmaker's partner Serum Institute of India (SII).

    "There was no immediate cause of concern at this stage," Samiran Panda, head of Epidemiology and Communicable Diseases at the ICMR, the research body involved in trials, told Reuters.

    "It doesn't mean that long term assessment will not happen, it is still happening. I am aware of the activity," Panda said.

    AstraZeneca did not respond to a request for comment.

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    madami bansa umaasa sa Oxford vaccine

    isa ang Pinas

    pero ilan beses na may reported neurological side effects (symptoms similar to MS) sa clinical trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Yup, the chances of one getting the virus from wearing face shields outweighs the chances of preventing it. Face shields are reusable, and I don’t think people will disinfect it after each use. Tapos kung saan saan pa nilalagay whenever they are not wearing it, and like Cathy, the chances of dropping the face shields to the floor is very high.
    face shields are like tools.
    we can use it wisely, to our advantage,
    or we can maltreat it and it will bite us back.

    it's up to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    face shields are like tools.
    we can use it wisely, to our advantage,
    or we can maltreat it and it will bite us back.

    it's up to us.
    my anxiety level is up again. Why did I use that face shield that dropped to the floor I alcoholed naman and the side that dropped was the outer part. E kasi di ako makakapasok ng mall without it

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    World's Biggest Vaccine Producer Lends Support to AstraZeneca After Drugmaker Misstep
    Catherine Ross
    Sun, November 29, 2020, 5:28 AM GMT+8·2 min read

    Serum Institute of India (SII), which has partnered with Novavax, Inc (NASDAQ: NVAX) and AstraZeneca Plc (NYSE: AZN) for trials in India, believes the latter’s COVID-19 vaccine is “a very good one.”

    What Happened: SII Chief Executive Adar Poonawalla praised the efficiency of AstraZeneca’s vaccine, called Covishield, during an online press briefing on Saturday, Reuters has reported.

    “What we found with Covishield in its global trial is there were zero hospitalizations, which means even if you do get infected you’re not going to have a severe attack and secondly even those who got the disease were not infecting others,” he explained during the call.

    Poonawalla also said the institute would apply for an emergency-use license in the next couple of weeks.

    SII is the world's largest vaccine producer, according to Reuters.


    World's Biggest Vaccine Producer Lends Support to AstraZeneca After Drugmaker Misstep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    World's Biggest Vaccine Producer Lends Support to AstraZeneca After Drugmaker Misstep
    Catherine Ross
    Sun, November 29, 2020, 5:28 AM GMT+8·2 min read

    Serum Institute of India (SII), which has partnered with Novavax, Inc (NASDAQ: NVAX) and AstraZeneca Plc (NYSE: AZN) for trials in India, believes the latter’s COVID-19 vaccine is “a very good one.”

    What Happened: SII Chief Executive Adar Poonawalla praised the efficiency of AstraZeneca’s vaccine, called Covishield, during an online press briefing on Saturday, Reuters has reported.

    “What we found with Covishield in its global trial is there were zero hospitalizations, which means even if you do get infected you’re not going to have a severe attack and secondly even those who got the disease were not infecting others,” he explained during the call.

    Poonawalla also said the institute would apply for an emergency-use license in the next couple of weeks.

    SII is the world's largest vaccine producer, according to Reuters.


    World's Biggest Vaccine Producer Lends Support to AstraZeneca After Drugmaker Misstep
    "if you put in a good word for me, i'll make it worth your while."
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    face shields are like tools.
    we can use it wisely, to our advantage,
    or we can maltreat it and it will bite us back.

    it's up to us.
    Kung face masks nga hindi alam gamitin ng tama, face shields pa kaya?
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