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    #21541
    no such thing as fast containment of brazil variant or uk variant or whatever new variant

    if you weren't able to control the january 2020 variant mas lalo di mo ma-control mga variant na mas makapit (mas madali makahawa)

    basta kung anong variant mas may survival advantage yan ang magiging dominant variant this year

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    #21542
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yun nga sinasabi ko ang reason -- galit sa china

    hindi dahil walang phase 3 data... kahit may phase 3 data pa yan... basta bakuna made in china ayaw

    para sa ibang tao (madaming tao) ung galit sa china ang nangingibabaw
    Yes that's correct and when you tell them about china vaccines will eventually help our economy get going and it is for the sake of all people etc..... they cannot absorb it and seems to them we owe it to china for helping us but they are the ones who destroyed us in the first place they cannot accept this.

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    #21543
    yan ang reason kung bakit kailangan na mag mass vaccination

    bumaba na nga ang efficacy ng existing vaccines against new variants pero kahit papano may efficacy parin

    kung nawala ang proteksyon against mild symptoms meron parin proteksyon against severe symptoms and death

    patagalin mo pa yan wala na silbi ang 1st gen vaccines

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    #21544
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yan ang reason kung bakit kailangan na mag mass vaccination

    bumaba na nga ang efficacy ng existing vaccines against new variants pero kahit papano may efficacy parin

    kung nawala ang proteksyon against mild symptoms meron parin proteksyon against severe symptoms and death

    patagalin mo pa yan wala na silbi ang 1st gen vaccines
    if only ganyan mag explain ang government natin, mas maraming ma convince mag pa vaccine

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    #21545
    Dr. Salvana explained this during the 1st day of vaccination in PGH. Just that some people believed immediately in fake news than should have been reading facts.
    The best vaccine now is whichever is available. There's no guarantee when is the prefered Pfizer available.



    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yan ang reason kung bakit kailangan na mag mass vaccination

    bumaba na nga ang efficacy ng existing vaccines against new variants pero kahit papano may efficacy parin

    kung nawala ang proteksyon against mild symptoms meron parin proteksyon against severe symptoms and death

    patagalin mo pa yan wala na silbi ang 1st gen vaccines

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    #21546
    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    Dr. Salvana explained this during the 1st day of vaccination in PGH. Just that some people believed immediately in fake news than should have been reading facts.
    The best vaccine now is whichever is available. There's no guarantee when is the prefered Pfizer available.
    Yan nga lagi sinasabi ni uls, we cannot be choosy because we only have one choice right now and until the next few months. Lahat gusto westerm vaccine, pero saan ka kukuha ng western vaccine.

    Pero iba ang interpretation ng tsikoteers.
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    #21547
    aside from mahina mag explain ang gobyerno, cynical agad mga tao pag nagsalita ang gobyerno

    ung wala tiwala agad

    para sa kanila lahat ng sinasabi ng gobyerno ay panloloko o kasinungalingan dahil galit sila sa gobyerno

    dun palang failure of communication agad

    --

    at tsaka tingin ko di mag wowork ung ganyan warning -- ung "magpabakuna na kayo habang may bisa pa ang bakuna"

    sasabihin ng mga tao style lang yan para magpaturok mga tao

    to see is to believe kasi mga tao

    so pag kumalat na talaga ang B117+E484K at madami nagka-severe covid... tapos lumabas sa observation ung mga nagpabakuna medyo sipon lang o halos walang sintomas...

    doon lang gusto magpabakuna
    Last edited by uls; March 3rd, 2021 at 12:33 PM.

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    #21548
    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    Dr. Salvana explained this during the 1st day of vaccination in PGH. Just that some people believed immediately in fake news than should have been reading facts.
    The best vaccine now is whichever is available. There's no guarantee when is the prefered Pfizer available.
    Tama naman sinabi niya this time, but I really take time before I believe what this doctor explains about every time. Dami din maling sinabi nito nung unang putok ng pandemya eh.

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    mahina mag explain ang gobyerno
    eto root cause ng cynic viewpoint, combined with self-profiting agenda

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    #21549
    Quote Originally Posted by tarzegetakizerd View Post
    Tama naman sinabi niya this time, but I really take time before I believe what this doctor explains about every time. Dami din maling sinabi nito nung unang putok ng pandemya eh.
    :
    in his defense,
    humen didn't know much about the covid virus, back then.

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    #21550
    Brazillian Variant 2.0...


    Covid-19 Variant in Brazil Overwhelms Local Hospitals, Hits Younger Patients - WSJ


    Brazil’s daily death toll from the disease rose to its highest level yet this week, pushing the country’s total number of Covid-19 fatalities past a quarter of a million. On Tuesday, Brazil reported a record 1,641 Covid fatalities. Neighbor Peru is struggling to curb a second wave of infections.

    The new variant, known as P.1, is 1.4 to 2.2 times more contagious than versions of the virus previously found in Brazil, and 25% to 61% more capable of reinfecting people who had been infected by an earlier strain, according to a study released Tuesday.

    Several doctors have reported a surge in younger patients in their Covid-19 wards, many in their 30s and 40s with no underlying health problems. In Peru, some doctors said patients are becoming seriously ill faster, just three or four days after the first symptoms emerged, compared with an average of nine to 14 days last year.

    “The virus is behaving differently,” said Rosa Lopez, a doctor in the intensive-care unit at Lima’s Guillermo Almenara Irigoyen Hospital. “It’s really aggressive…the situation is very difficult, really terrible.”

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    #21551
    tingnan niyo ung blue line

    global cases have stopped falling



    ang explanation diyan it's coz of easing of restrictions and/or new variants are spreading

    new variants are more contagious coz mutations gave them stronger binding ability to our ACE2 receptors so it takes less exposure to get infected

    diba lately there are reports of new clusters sa atin

    ang description lagi "ang bilis kumalat", "mas matapang itong virus"

    sign yan ng new variant

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    #21552
    Astrazeneca Orford vaccine is likened to being injected with the virus vs the South African variant.... 10 percent efficacy.

    Off limits mga taga-Pasay City muna...hehehe


    DOH detects 6 cases of South African variant of COVID-19, 3 new cases of UK variant | Inquirer News


    The DOH added that the three local cases of the South African variant were reported as residents of Pasay City, and whose samples were collected on Jan. 27 and Feb. 13.

    “Two of the local cases, a 61-year-old female and a 39-year-old male, are active cases being managed by Pasay City. The third local case, a 40-year-old male, has already recovered,” the DOH said.

    “On the other hand, the two ROFs arrived in the country from UAE and Qatar; their statuses are currently being verified. Moreover, the DOH is currently verifying if the sixth case is a local case or an ROF,” the DOH added.

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    #21553
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post


    why do you want your healthcare workers vaccinated?

    pag tumaas uli ang hospitalizations dahil sa new variant you don't want your hospital staff falling sick

    the mutants are spreading

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    #21554
    Janssen COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials in PH to check for long-term efficacy — DOH | ABS-CBN News

    “Yun pong Janssen ang kanilang sinasabi ang gagawin nilang clinical trial dito ay for 2 doses,” Health Undersecretary Maria Rosario Vergeire said, referring to Johnson & Johnson’s pharmaceutical company Janssen.

    (The clinical trial of Janssen here in the country is for 2 doses.)
    2 doses yung ginagawang clinical trial ng Johnson& johnson vaccine dito.

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    #21555
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    if only ganyan mag explain ang government natin, mas maraming ma convince mag pa vaccine
    Hindi rin... marami pa din mga anti-govt... keso china, keso du30... siguro yung mga nag iisip na gusto mag move ang economy at walang political agenda, tapos confuse lang sila sa sinovac may chance pa na magpa register sa covid...

    I doubt sa mga pro western, anti-china/du30 at yung mga gusto ng 95% efficacy, at kayang maghintay ng matagal...


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    #21556
    Parating na daw bukas iyong astra zeneca vax.

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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    #21557
    We can't say na marami hinde magpabakuna dahil wala pa naman yun para sa rest of the citizens.

    Saka sino ba sinasabi mo *uls na mga ayaw pabakuna ng china vaccine? Mga feeling entitled prick na dilawan? Eh kung gusto nila magantay ang they can afford naagantay na Western vaccines, problema nila yun pero mga masa I'm sure marami papabakuna.


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    #21558
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Hindi rin... marami pa din mga anti-govt... keso china, keso du30... siguro yung mga nag iisip na gusto mag move ang economy at walang political agenda, tapos confuse lang sila sa sinovac may chance pa na magpa register sa covid...

    I doubt sa mga pro western, anti-china/du30 at yung mga gusto ng 95% efficacy, at kayang maghintay ng matagal...


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    Ilan? Diba mas marami din hamak ang mga supporters ni dutiti? So wala.dapst ikatakot na hinde sila magpapabakuna.

    Remember 90+% approval rating ni dutiti?


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    #21559
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i don't china luncheon meat, not because of its country of origin, but because i do not like the taste.
    if i shunned all china-made items,
    i'd be semi-naked.

    i was about to sinovac,
    but my doctor does not strongly recommend it for me, because of my senior age.

    hey!
    i'm a strong believer in consulting the experts, instead of doing myself some home medicine.
    I have three close friends na mga doktor. Yung dalawa nagpabakuna na, yung isa ayaw pa. Sabi nung ayaw dahil daw sa efficacy rating ng sinovac at doubtful nga siya sa gawa ng China because this pandemic got to where it is now because of their initial handling of the problem daw.

    Yung dalawa naman sabi mabuti na merong some form of protection kesa wala talaga. The two work privately, but nagrorounds pa din sa mga hospital, while yung ayaw sa isang national government hospital naman exclusively.

    Kaya para sa akin hindi pwede sisihin mamamayan kasi doktor na nga mga ito pero meron din talaga ayaw. You can't tell them they're choosy. It's a well-educated choice for them.

    PDuts won using the socmed, if they want people to have confidence dapat they should have mobilized their troll army nga which is even more well-funded now, compared to during the campaign period. Legal pa ngayon. Kalokohan nang sasabihin na socmed lang talaga dahilan eh kasi puro batikos kaya galit tao sa China vaccine, may sarili din socmed army ang admin eh, trust rating naman ng admin at mga tauhan nila mataas pa din. Si Leni nga bagsak diba. So sinong troll army mas successful? Tabla lang yan sa ingay kaso nangingibabaw lang yung ayaw talaga.

    Hindi lang kasi talaga nila masagot-sagot yung issue ng transparency at efficacy, which is answerable naman at sinasabi naman nila kaso ayaw na ata pakinggan ng tao. Tingin ko nabuwisit na kasi taumbayan (yes including mga DDS, with exceptions of course) kaya kahit idol pa din si PDuts eh at least dito sa usapin ng vaccine wah epek na diskarte niya at rumblings.

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    #21560
    Post ni baludoy sa kabilang thread.

    Tagni-tagni kasi yang kapalpakan. Yung pondo sa information laban sa opposition eh kung sa pagpapaganda sana ng trust approval rating sa China virus este vaccine eh di baka may magandang papatunguhan ang pondo. Eh kaso.... I rest my case. Taumbayan pa rin may kasalanan at madali sila mauto ng fake news.screenshot_20210303-160359.jpg

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