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    #17541
    I hope isa ito sa mga walang kabuluhan nyang sinasabi at bandang huli DOH at FDA pa rin mag decide. Or sana mapalitan na sya bago pa kung ano anong desisyon ang gawin nya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Philippine government to ban home quarantine of COVID-19 cases

    No more home quarantines.


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    while this may seem the more effective move,
    i suspect it will only encourage "tagu-an".
    "ay, ser... ilang araw nang hindi umu-uwi si mister ko..."

    what government should do,
    is to make it attractive to be quarantined in the facility.

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    #17543
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    while this may seem the more effective move,
    i suspect it will only encourage "tagu-an".
    "ay, ser... ilang araw nang hindi umu-uwi si mister ko..."

    what government should do,
    is to make it attractive to be quarantined in the facility.
    Parang Di uubra yan sa contact tracer “tsismosa” doc... hahaha!
    Sasabihan pa yan nakita ko sumisilip yan sa bintana at nag titiktok ng my heart went ops..., hehehe...


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    #17544
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Parang Di uubra yan sa contact tracer “tsismosa” doc... hahaha!
    Sasabihan pa yan nakita ko sumisilip yan sa bintana at nag titiktok ng my heart went ops..., hehehe...


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    ...from victims to wanted suspects...

    'di lalo nang walang magnanais magpa-test...

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    #17545
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ...from victims to wanted suspects...

    'di lalo nang walang magnanais magpa-test...
    Mag papa test lang ang patient pag gumagapang na sya sa hirap ng symptoms. Kung asymptomatic ka pero mawawalay ka sa family mo kahit you feel healthy, eh di na lang ako pa test. Mag self isolate na lang ako at internet na lang doctor ko.

    This rule will scare most people of even going to a hospital.

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    #17546
    yup

    if the gov't will go after infected people like criminals, itatago ng mga tao ang sakit

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    #17547
    this is what large scale clinical trials are for

    to look for those rare reactions that can only be found when you have tens of thousands of test subjects


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    #17548
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    this is what large scale clinical trials are for

    to look for those rare reactions that can only be found when you have tens of thousands of test subjects

    Oxford vaccine trial on hold because of safety issue

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    #17549
    kaya di pwede skip phase 3

    ung gusto ipa-approve kahit phase 2 palang

    mali yun

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    #17550
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    this is what large scale clinical trials are for

    to look for those rare reactions that can only be found when you have tens of thousands of test subjects

    one (isa lang!) subject developed unexplained illness.
    they are investigating the nature of the "illness".

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    #17551
    That's why I posted it to get the proper context, but at least Oxford/Astra Zeneca is very careful about it.

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    #17552
    Yan ang transparency and good governance

    We will not get these from the Chinese and Russian vaccine developers

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    #17553
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Yan ang transparency and good governance

    We will not get these from the Chinese and Russian vaccine developers
    Yan kanina gusto ko I-post. We'll never get that from the Chinese and Russians.


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    #17554
    Doc:
    one (isa lang!) subject developed unexplained illness.
    they are investigating the nature of the "illness".
    and because only 1 had a bad reaction kailangan hold muna

    1 in 10,000 or 20,000 may seem small pero when you're vaccinating hundreds of millions or billions of people...

    hindi na biro yan
    Last edited by uls; September 9th, 2020 at 11:23 AM.

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    #17555
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Yan kanina gusto ko I-post. We'll never get that from the Chinese and Russians.


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    Russia was after prestige -- being first

    pero the world didn't take them seriously

    by western standards di ma-a-approve ang vaccine nila... lacking large scale clinical trial

    --

    China ewan ko lang... kahit papano sumusunod sila sa proseso

    they're conducting large scale trials naman
    Last edited by uls; September 9th, 2020 at 11:36 AM.

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    #17556
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Russia was after prestige -- being first

    pero the world didn't take them seriously

    by western standards di ma-a-approve ang vaccine nila... lacking large scale clinical trial

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    China ewan ko lang... kahit papano kinikilala nila proseso

    they're conducting large scale trials naman
    But will they stop trails if meron isang bad reaction sa test subject?


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    #17557
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    But will they stop trails if meron isang bad reaction sa test subject?


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    malamang hindi

    ino-note lang nila siguro hehe

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    #17558
    Para sa praning sa mga groceries and deliveries.

    Do you still need to wipe down store purchases and other surfaces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    But will they stop trails if meron isang bad reaction sa test subject?


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    even the so-called safest drug, can have bad reaction on some people.

    investigate and then decide if the potential risk is worth the potential gain.

    "we must weigh what we may lose, by what we may gain." - hessler.

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    #17560
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    But will they stop trails if meron isang bad reaction sa test subject?


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    The test subject with the bad reaction will be detained indefinitely and eventually disappear


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