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    Last edited by Monseratto; September 19th, 2020 at 04:37 PM.

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    some good news for cabin fever struck pinoys

    PAL makes it to top 10 list of safest carriers | Philstar.com

    at least when the green light to travel goes on, you'll know who to fly w/ in the friendly skies.

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    interesting results coming out of sweden


    How ice cool scientist saved Sweden from coronavirus WITHOUT lockdown - and now he'''s a national hero


    but comments on twitter who claim to be swedes say that this isn't true at all. they say that at present, it still isn't safe to visit the scandinavian state.

    or are these commenters just declaring that to prevent outsiders (particularly brits afflicted w/ wanderlust (it's a uk based tabloid)) from setting foot into their borders and thus avoid bringing in more of the deadly virus.

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    good point.
    hindi pa kailangan ng freezer for delivery and storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post

    post naman kayo ng pictures ng beach, hindi pictures ng madla lang.
    nag-hanap tuloy ako sa yu-tube.
    heh heh.

    may nagpapalipad na ng guryon, sa background ng video na nakita ko.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 19th, 2020 at 07:29 PM.

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    Last edited by Monseratto; September 19th, 2020 at 08:31 PM.

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    Ano ginagawa ng Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and Thailand? Bakit hinde natin magaya?


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    dunno about Thailand did but i know Vietnam used quarantine centers very early in the pandemic and they have very thorough contact tracing

    that's 2 things we did not do

    sa atin naalala ko in March/April puro mass testing ang dinedemand ng mga tao so nag focus ang gobyerno sa testing

    pero pag nag positive pauuwiin lang ung tao

    so what's the use in testing if you don't isolate?

    kaya eto tayo ngayon

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    #17849
    tapos ang contact tracing natin 1 layer lang (if there's even contact tracing at all)

    Sa Korea matindi... 3, 4 or 5 layers ang tine-trace nila

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    Quarantine problema ng PH... Sa Cebu was a big example gano bulok ang quarantine ng local government. Home Quarantine was a big no no. Pero sa squatter area pina pa Home Quarantine. Already repeatedly mentioned in this thread yung may sakit nakakalabas at kipag inuman. Tapos buong pamilya na infect dahil siksikan sa bahay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    For once I agree with you on this, as I remembered the head of CDC that while waiting for the vaccine, face mask is still the best protection against covid 19.

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    Will we be wearing masks forever? Here'''s what experts think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Grabe active cases natin, hindi man lang bumababa

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    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #17854
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    "... bending long-standing rules..."
    i wonder, what its long-term effects will be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    Bakit hindi nabanggit sa clinical trials ang Pinas? Hindi ba tayo sumali sa trials ng Russia or China?

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    2 days ago:

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    pag nagkaroon uli ng parehong side effect sa ibang participant patay ang vaccine na yan

    ung description ng side effect parang multiple sclerosis

    today:


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    2 days ago:




    today:

    Sa China vaccine trials, yung mga ganun tinatago, inaaresto o nililibing


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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Bakit hindi nabanggit sa clinical trials ang Pinas? Hindi ba tayo sumali sa trials ng Russia or China?

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    di pa yata nag umpisa

    puro press release palang

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Sa China vaccine trials, yung mga ganun tinatago, inaaresto o nililibing

    hehe

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    Second case of Transverse myelitis... One more and bye bye vaccine.


    AstraZeneca, Under Fire for Vaccine Safety, Releases Trial Blueprints - The New York Times

    The company has released few details about the two cases of serious illness in its trial. The first participant received one dose of the vaccine before developing inflammation of the spinal cord, known as transverse myelitis, according to a participant information sheet for AstraZeneca’s vaccine from July. The condition can cause weakness in the arms and legs, paralysis, pain and bowel and bladder problems.

    The case prompted a pause in AstraZeneca’s vaccine trials to allow for a safety review by independent experts. A company spokeswoman told the Times last week that the volunteer was later determined to have a previously undiagnosed case of multiple sclerosis, unrelated to the vaccine, and that the trial resumed shortly thereafter.

    The company said it had not confirmed a diagnosis in the second case, a participant who got sick after the second dose of the vaccine. A person familiar with the situation who spoke with The Times on the condition of anonymity said the participant’s illness had been pinpointed as transverse myelitis. The trial was paused again on Sept. 6 after she fell ill.

    The condition is rare, but serious, and experts said that finding even one case among thousands of trial participants could be a red flag. Multiple confirmed cases, they said, could be enough to halt AstraZeneca’s vaccine bid entirely.

    “If there are two cases, then this starts to look like a dangerous pattern,” said Mark Slifka, a vaccine expert at Oregon Health and Science University. “If a third case of neurological disease pops up in the vaccine group, then this vaccine may be done.”

    A participant information sheet dated Sept. 11 on AstraZeneca’s trial in Britain lumped the two volunteers’ cases together, stating the illnesses were “unlikely to be associated with the vaccine or there was insufficient evidence to say for certain that the illnesses were or were not related to the vaccine,” based on safety reviews. The next day, AstraZeneca announced that it had resumed the trial in Britain.

    But the F.D.A. has so far not allowed the company to start up again in the United States.

    A spokesman for the F.D.A. declined to comment. The National Institutes of Health said in a statement that it “remains to be seen” whether the onset of illness in trial participants was coincidental or tied to the vaccine, adding that “pausing to allow for further evaluation is consistent with standard practice.”
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